Or automate the installation of the addon ( like cobbler/pxe
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ite sure that some
people would be happy to get notification of bugs and changes on some
packages, without being co-maintainer. This would permit to find
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forcing reboots on users wouldn't be very kind.
Beyond cleaning crash reports and reducing them, there is also the perception
of users.
If we want to have the same reputation as some older windows with "this
software
crashed and I do not know why" from our users, then havin
8.src.rpm
>
> I haven't checked whether these are simply to convert over to WSGI or
> not. Does anybody want to maintain mod_python? If not, I'm going to
> retire it.
>
> Regards, Joe
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ttack is unable to
> initiate ptrace or start a process that can ptrace, what real extra
> security do we gain by disabling it by default?
AFAIK, firefox is not running in a confined domain, and that's a
valuable target of attack. The same could be said of some others
applications ( lik
undle openssl ( + various
patches, of course, or this is not fun ), etc :
https://github.com/joyent/node/tree/master/deps
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fork ).
- then we add '%changelog' + changelog in the spec, and build a srpm out
of svn and mirrors for binary content.
- then the srpm is rebuilt ( binary and src.rpm ) and then sent to
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something like fedora-easy-karma would be enough )
Taking only in account package in updates-testing indexes, this would
remove the mirror lag issue.
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to include
> the master key along site Microsoft's?
The last attempt to do something similar I can think of would be cacert.
Afaik, they are still being audited to be added to Firefox, and i think
they would be happy to explain all the issues they faced on that road.
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o break later in weird way,
since users perception would be different.
First, they would either ask for help and then someone could explain what is
wrong.
This would also reduce the number of failed upgrade and therefor the number of
bugs
that cannot be reproduced, thus making them likely easier to spot and fix.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCfRWrCj3lc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gDWyayfBNs
( time spent to search that on youtube, around 30 seconds )
And there is also variation of the interface per vendor, just look on the
various ASUS motherboard interfaces.
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On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 02:24:35AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Michael scherer wrote:
> > For the record, UEFI based motherboard would likely have a graphical
> > interface, so no blueish DOS-like commandline thing.
> > Of course, that also permit endless graphical custo
Le samedi 02 juin 2012 à 09:46 +0100, phantomjinx a écrit :
> Michael scherer wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 02:10:38AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> > > Documenting the procedure may be viable after all. Kevi
illed a complain yet against that ? Since there was news
about secureboot since months, I think that you had plenty of time to do
it. In fact, even now, since people have time to complain, they can
spend time to do it.
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by "blowing fuse", understand "irreversibly" ). Chances are high that
you will find technical documentations that explain it.
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from time to time due to upgrade.
> This feature is inpractical of server systems where you want to
> avoid reboots to minimizize downtimes.
Then you can still use yum update to do it instead of doing it with
packagekit and systemd.
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a lot of money better spent elsewhere. Cause money spent buying laptop
is not money spent writing code.
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( https://plus.google.com/101839830409692150605/posts/4Mp24WusuQM )
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ne is the default, there is no obvious patchs to
enable or disable it in our packages and on Debian side.
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can't use Application
> X.
In fact, we do ( or rather, I do ).
When I tell to people that Starcraft II and Eve Online do not run on
Linux. When I tell that Office and Photoshop do not run on Linux. When I
tell that their Iphone is not gonna work and I cannot be sure that the
printer they
a will
> eventually be used only by the limited set of people that are
> comfortable operating under strict restrictions on their behavior[1].
>
> [1] Hmm... that sounds an awful lot like the way Apple behaves...
> except they can afford marketing.
And lawyers, lots of them :)
And they
ng them on the DVD we
distribute.
I am sure we can find lots of way, and that some of them have been
already tried.
And that seems perfectly aligned with Fedora mission and much closer to
the way people convert users.
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ora ), I also know not everybody
is fluent in programming. So without any page that outline why it is
a warning and that tell when it can be ignored, this will not be added to
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o s/yum/dnf/ or to have to conditionally code for these
> differences based on OS release or the presense of yum vs. dnf. Why
> not just keep the command name the same with no nag message?
I would expect puppet/chef to start using the library rather than direct
access to the binary.
And for ansible, I think the patch is quite simple, just add 2 lines.
I guess we can start right now to get stuff merged.
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work better
> > and moved on.
> Yes but who is this better for? A few developers or the mass of people
> and documentation that
> are used to using "yum".
>
> With cars it was obviously better for me - dnf not so obvious.
So far in this thread, I see no one steppin
ite of YUM justifies
> re-naming
> and re-training all users. Users don't care what you do with the source. And
> of course, users will complain no matter what you do.
Like they complained when up2date was replaced by yum ?
when zipper replaced whatever they used to have on *sus
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:03 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> Am 14.06.2014 02:59, schrieb Michael Scherer:
> > Le vendredi 13 juin 2014 à 10:39 -0400, Steve Clark a écrit :
> >> On 06/13/2014 09:03 AM, drago01 wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:10 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> Am 14.06.2014 03:04, schrieb Michael Scherer:
> > Le vendredi 13 juin 2014 à 15:07 +0200, Petr Spacek a écrit :
> >> On 13.6.2014 14:58, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Am 13.06.2014 14:53,
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:20 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> Am 14.06.2014 03:10, schrieb Michael Scherer:
> > Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:03 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> >> Am 14.06.2014 02:59, schrieb Michael Scherer:
> >>> Le vendredi 13 juin 2014 à 10
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:33 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> Am 14.06.2014 03:24, schrieb Michael Scherer:
> > Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:10 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> >> and that changes where much bigger than a fork of YUM renamed
> >> for no good reas
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 04:00 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit :
>
> Am 14.06.2014 03:42, schrieb Michael Scherer:
> > Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:33 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> >>> So maybe you should propose to have dnf named yum 4.0, and then since
> >>>
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:55 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit :
>
> Am 14.06.2014 03:36, schrieb Michael Scherer:
> > Everybody I know who looked at the yum python api told me it was a bit
> > horrible. So a cleanup was needed for that. There was demand from
> > package
rors to the software that do the automation,
since you can only transmit string without any formatting or
translation.
You are also mixing something mean for a user and something meant for a
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Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 12:55 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> Am 14.06.2014 12:26, schrieb Michael Scherer:
> > Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 04:00 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> >> Am 14.06.2014 03:42, schrieb Michael Scherer:
> >>> Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 03:3
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 15:08 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> Am 14.06.2014 14:56, schrieb Michael Scherer:
> > Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 13:45 +0100, Jon Kent a écrit :
> >> Concerns me greatly when someone thinks cli is the wrong way to
> >> automate things. Ag
Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 15:15 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit :
>
> Am 14.06.2014 15:04, schrieb Michael Scherer:
> > Le samedi 14 juin 2014 à 12:55 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> >>> That's why the developers do ask "what is missing". That's also wh
should
work without
it.
So I would suggest to get in touch with him, he is quite a helpful and open
guy, and would
be happy to see unity on more than Ubuntu. ( for example, he is waiting on
someone to
sponsor him for uploading packages to debian, and that's the reason why there
is no
p
or some people that want to manage their applications for
> multiple distributions is the *only*
> logical (administrative-able) option, correct me if you have something
> more encouraged by Fedora that has the same capabilities,
> I will be happy to use it.
But offering build for mu
day, he also posted that about the issue :
https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-desktop/issues/18#issuecomment-7251595
So he didn't seemed to have got over it (yet) at this moment.
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> sqlite3 not found!
> -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
>
> sqlite and sqlite-devel are installed, a local rpmbuild works.
Hi,
There is no sqlite-devel in buildRequires in the spec, so mock cannot
find it.
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I have seen this a few times from people who did not know it existed, so
I suspect that's why gnome use this default setting.
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esystem is
freezed and then the rest is freezed.
Having packages on the critical path to be frozen sooner could make
sense.
Maybe having some kind of dependencies between feature could also be a
idea. Anaconda requires dracut to not change, so we need a way to
express this, and a way to avoid changes
can also be used with playbook, to describe the state of a server
and make sure it is compliant. For example, "make sure service is
started", "restart if config was changed" ( using a notification system
).
See http://ansible.cc/docs/playbooks.html
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others distributions that stable release are neglected because devs run
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ave no bug is thin.
And I am doubting that changing the release model will suddenly make
people do QA.
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le to identify the pain points. In my experience
> with my test machine, rawhide has been pretty boring for the last two
> cycles, if we can continue to make it so, perhaps the rolling release
> folks might be able to find it usable.
Not to mention people could just dual boot in case of issues.
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( like if we need to contact all users to make them change their
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know issue waiting to
> be solved.
Technically, that could be done by reusing bodhi and enough person to give -1
karma.
Another solution could be a yum plugin that will get the blacklist from the
wiki or
somewhere, or that would pull it from fedora-people whatever.
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Le jeudi 15 novembre 2012 à 09:06 -0800, Adam Williamson a écrit :
> On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 14:48 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >
> > Am 15.11.2012 13:33, schrieb Michael Scherer:
> > > Le jeudi 15 novembre 2012 à 03:23 +0100, Kevin Kofler a écrit :
> > >> i
nd friends? When using
> those systems, it's nice to do the programmatic config and that level, and
> have easily-tweaked key value (or single value per file!) configuration.
No, you can just use a template and hide it behind the proper
abstraction.
it make things worse for stuff like
and
didn't ask many questions ), but he will try to guide them a bit.
I am the one who asked to Alex to write here, following the procedure on the
wiki,
but since he is not a packager, I do not know exactly how to manage it.
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loaader with a script ( https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update/ )
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ple are annoyed to go to different bugzilla to report bugs, people
are annoyed to go to different shops to shop for stuff ( as seen by the
success of amazon, or even itunes, etc ), so why would it make sense to
have a different way depending on what you want to install ?
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Le vendredi 07 décembre 2012 à 18:22 +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit :
> On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 04:51:43PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> > On 12/07/2012 04:46 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> > >On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 11:13 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
> > > wrote:
> > >>>I am not sure why d
n't have
> time for it.
I do not know for you, but as a sysadmin, I do not care having to learn
new things. For example, I am looking forward cleaning some cruft with
systemd migration. I do not expect to live in a bubble unaffected by the
fact that the rest of the world is moving. 15/20 years ago, we didn't
have cloud/virtualisation, BYOD trend, hyper connected work force, etc.
So sysadmins and IT has to adapt daily. And changes into systems are
just part of the job. People are paid because they are able to adapt.
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Le samedi 08 décembre 2012 à 09:32 -0800, Adam Williamson a écrit :
> On Sat, 2012-12-08 at 17:31 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote:
>
> > > In my opinion the vision needs to be changed. It feels like Fedora has
> > > turned into
> > > Rawhide more than Fedora
Le samedi 08 décembre 2012 à 19:31 +0100, Ralf Corsepius a écrit :
> On 12/08/2012 05:31 PM, Michael Scherer wrote:
> > Le samedi 08 décembre 2012 à 05:12 -0800, Dan Mashal a écrit :
>
> > In fact, I never heard anyone complaining about "kde is dying" while the
> &g
ement this.
And usually, in a cyber cafe, you also want to be able to limit the time
spent on the session by disconnecting after a time, and display that
time to the customers.
You also want to let people connect only if they paid :)
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> >> * Some dependencies of the Rails stack will need update
> > Does this work for users of Rails currently in Fedora, or will those
> > packages need upgraded/ported as well?
> >
> > Bill
>
> There is plenty o
usr" is fine
Seems like a bug in the software. It would prevent to have it run from a
livecd.
> * mediathomb
> refuses for whatever reason to start with read-only /etc
> "ReadOnlyDirectories=/usr" is fine
Same as above.
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of the added value of such rules ?"
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ecks.`
So you assume that "administrative" mean "not fun", so "people will not
do it for free" ?
On one hand, i would agree, this is quite hard to find a good treasurer,
motivated, etc. On the other hand, there is lots of group doing it
around you. Having someone pa
ything.
And that's what was done for Mageia before the association got a legal
entity, using another partner association in France as a proxy for
money. I think Debian also do something similar for debconf, with SPI.
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of either of these features. Unless Matthew
> > takes them over alone I will will mark these feature pages as obsolete
> > as they didn't get agreed on.
>
> Taking rsyslog out of @core is a one-line commit to comps which someone
> could do in 30 seconds. It hardly need
a server is not dedicated
to Fedora, far from it ), and everybody has better things to do that
splitting usage by project, and querying the right folks to get the
number to start with. RH is not yet a bureaucratic behemoth where
everything is precisely counted.
However, a rough estimate would be
Le vendredi 26 juillet 2013 à 13:32 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" a
écrit :
> On 07/26/2013 01:07 PM, Michael Scherer wrote:
> >
> > Working in IT @Red Hat, I concur, and I am pretty sure that no one has
> > all the information to make that estimation. Network,
jboss do work.
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failing, twice the work to setup, and of course, they do not match on
feature.
Anyway, I think I contributed enough to this thread, so I will stop
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/mysoftware with ./configure
--prefix=/opt/mysoftware
it should also generate a systemd file that use the correct path
after ./configure & make. For the exact way of doing that, you have to
see autoconf manual, and I do not have a example ready to give.
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m to have it downgradable, that's a bit hard.
Another issue is the %ghost, we cannot really check the symlink is still
the same. Maybe there is some better syntax for that.
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anual intervention. Could something be done with it so that doesn't
spread to others packages, and those be fixed before too much people
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Le samedi 24 août 2013 à 15:57 +0200, Michael Scherer a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I found 2 rpms ( nscd, acpid ) that were sent in updates with a bug that
> didn't expand the systemd macro :
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000713
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/
un anything in chroot. I do have a patch but I was not able to make a policy
for the transition
( or my patch is buggy ) and I didn't look at it since a few weeks. I can send
it
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Le mardi 03 septembre 2013 à 15:37 -0400, Jay Greguske a écrit :
> On 09/03/2013 01:54 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > On 09/03/2013 12:29 PM, Michael scherer wrote:
> >> On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 09:48:52A
Le mardi 03 septembre 2013 à 15:37 -0400, Jay Greguske a écrit :
> On 09/03/2013 12:29 PM, Michael scherer wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 09:48:52AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >> On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 10:10:32 -0400
> >> Jay Greguske wrote:
> >>
> >
r user?
> Possibly too much complexity...
Assuming you filter your mail using something like maildrop that can
filter the email and rewrite the Subject. If spamassassin can do it, why
not do the same :)
( I use that to remove the [ml name] of some list, to reorder the
subject for
nothing for you.
See
http://users.sosdg.org/~qiyong/lxr/source/Documentation/sysctl/fs.txt#L160 for
more information.
Also, for the record, Debian also enable it for the next stable
release :
http://womble.decadent.org.uk/blog/whats-in-the-linux-kernel-for-debian-70-wheezy-part-1.htm
he bug:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=921158
>
> This is the step 4 of the absent maintainer process so I am asking
> whether anyone knows how to contact the maintainer.
I know the maintainer, I will send him a sms ( we were both working for
the company that wrote
Le mercredi 27 mars 2013 à 12:32 +0100, Michael Scherer a écrit :
> Le mercredi 27 mars 2013 à 12:15 +0100, Tomas Mraz a écrit :
> > The nufw package in fedora is currently FTBFS and broken due to missing
> > dependencies. The package upstream is dead and replaced with a new U
t in
the wild.
But I am not sure if you are talking of that.
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ed method to find if
> hardening criteria applies to a particular package. Ideas are welcome!
You can take a look on http://people.redhat.com/sgrubb/security/ , there
is a script rpm-chksec to verify that.
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gt;
> Things I have covered in the past in addition to SELinux advances, systemd
> improvements, journald, kerberos moving the cache, FreeIPA integration with
> ActiveDirectory, audit improvement, libvirt/containers ...
Privacy in gnome 3.8 ?
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onvince any upstream directly to invest more
time in stuff like seccomp-bpf as did by Chrome, vsftpd and others if
you think that's the right approach to fix security issues.
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ot;yum install session(gnome)" that would take what is needed to have
"gnome" in *dm listed as a choice, and i think that would fit the
definition of minimal.
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conda developers don't read the developer list? That's terrible!
That's the whole point of having a separate list in the first place, so
people are not forced to read a high volume list like fedora-devel.
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;reduce visual clutter" and "have a explicit checkbox" )
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Le samedi 04 mai 2013 à 05:51 -0400, Rahul Sundaram a écrit :
> Hi
>
>
> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Michael Scherer wrote:
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> and I think that even Bruce Schneier have gave his opinion in
> favor of
> the proposal :
> h
Le samedi 04 mai 2013 à 15:22 -0700, Dan Mashal a écrit :
> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Michael Scherer wrote:
> > and I think that even Bruce Schneier have gave his opinion in favor of
> > the proposal :
> > http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/the_proble
Le samedi 04 mai 2013 à 17:06 -0600, Chris Murphy a écrit :
>
> On May 4, 2013, at 3:37 AM, Michael Scherer wrote:
> >
> > Or I could also speak of the small non standard keyboard such as macbook
> > one where ~ or | are not printed and where using the wrong keyboard
&
tp://lab.arc90.com/2009/07/08/halfmask-an-experiment-in-password-masking/
( didn't work with firefox, only with epiphany )
( as a side note, I suspect that the whole idea come from this
article :
http://uxdesign.smashingmagazine.com/2012/10/26/password-masking-hurt-signup-form/
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