Daniel Veillard wrote:
> The problem is that you can perfectly have application not relying on
> libxml2 outside of their own code use libxml2 at different phases,
> for example when parsing input, and when generating result, not using
> the library in the meantime and calling xmlCleanupParser() tw
Jussi Lehtola on 01/27/2010 01:45 PM wrote:
> As a heavy LaTeX user I would be really against dropping xdvi before
> there is some other app that runs as fast. Evince very slow - xdvi shows
> pages straight away, whereas evince often displays "Loading..."
How about profiling evince instead?
perf
Mike McGrath on 01/28/2010 08:45 AM wrote:
> This one's tricky, what checks could have been in place to prevent this?
> Additional testing may not have worked as some people say they aren't
> seeing the issue.
It (should) be only IMAP users who are affected. Not every TB user is
using IMAP. I see
Michal Schmidt on 01/28/2010 09:15 AM wrote:
> This happened today to a colleague of mine. I suggested him to remove
> ~/.thunderbird/*.default/ImapMail/*/*.msf which fixed the problem (it
> made Thunderbird reload the state of the emails from the IMAP server
> again).
You (should) get the same ef
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> You (should) get the same effect from right-clicking on a mail folder
> and selecting "Rebuild Index".
s/selecting/selecting properties, then/
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Steve Dickson on 01/28/2010 09:44 AM wrote:
> What is CONDSTORE support and will I have to turn it back on
> once the problem has been resolved?
According to the RFC[1], it allows more efficient multi-client access
support to an IMAP server. Disabling CONDSTORE will result in more
bandwidth usag
Michał Piotrowski on 08/11/2010 09:28 AM wrote:
> I
> downloadedhttp://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/desktop-x86_64-20100810.15.iso
> - it is too large to fit on the CD.
This is the "Green Age" what are you doing wasting a CD? Mother earth
frowns on you. Be kind and reus
Brandon Lozza on 08/11/2010 10:13 AM wrote:
> Keep the greening politics to yourself please
So that there are no further misunderstands or continuation of this
tangent - I was being sarcastic.
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Mike McGrath wrote:
> Do you like fixing things but don't care what?
>
> Are you a jack of all trades sort of person?
>
> We need your help!
Hey Mike,
I know you're a cool guy and would be interested in signing up. However,
what kind of work would this entail? I see "4 hours per week" listed,
b
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> I expect more fine tuning will be needed for these changes but thanks
> for all your work on this.
Indeed! Thanks Luke. Bodhi became much more useful with this update even
if there are a few nay-sayers.
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Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Sorry, but I don't think exposing our users to remote arbitrary code
> execution (!) vulnerabilities just to make web apps a bit faster is a
> reasonable tradeoff.
Kevin, if you took off your FSF blindfold you would see that it's better
for web sites to use JavaScript. If th
Chris Adams wrote:
> What do we gain by not having any MTA installed (other than a little bit
> of disk space)? I understand that "a little bit of disk space" can add
> up quick, but a local queueing MTA is a pretty standard part of a Unix
> system.
Why are you complaining? If your package needs
Andrew Haley wrote:
> Not everything that runs on Fedora is a Fedora package: people run
> their own programs, too. Some things, like the existence of /bin/ls
> or being able to send mail by piping the message to either /bin/mail
> or/usr/{sbin,lib}/sendmail are basic features of UNIX.
No one is
Matthew Miller wrote:
> If we follow the general state of things: "if a package might need
> something, toss it in as a requires!", this will totally defeat the purpose
> of the comps change, since it will get pulled in by something important at
> some point. Rsyslog, for example, can send output v
Paul Howarth wrote:
> I use "at" on a regular basis, to schedule large downloads and uploads
> when my ADSL bandwidth becomes unmetered after midnight.
>
> And I like getting the resulting email in the morning showing that all
> went well, or not as the case may be.
No one will prevent you from do
Matthew Garrett wrote:
> The long term fix would arguably be to provide a stub /usr/sbin/sendmail
> that ties into a more generic event reporting interface, which in turn
> could be configured to send mail elsewhere but would default to popping
> up some sort of desktop notification.
Already works
Andrew Haley wrote:
> I think there's a much more fundamental question here, which is
> whether a default Fedora installation is intended to be a real
> UNIX-like system or just the dependencies for GNOME.
I was going to reply to Chris, but I'll reply here.
What benefit do I, or anyone else, rece
Neal Becker wrote:
> No idea what this means.
It means it has been 10 commits since you have pushed ("synced") with
the git repo living on pkgs.fedoraproject.org. Remember that you have
your own unique git repository living on your local system.
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Neal Becker wrote:
> But all I did was update the spec file (and did new sources), so how is that
> 10 commits?
$ git log
Check out who has been committing?
You might also find the gitk tool (or other equivalents found in the
Fedora repos) useful for visualizing the history.
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Neal Becker wrote:
> git config --global push.default tracking
> seems to have fixed things. (Still don't know what this magic means)
Git can push to one or many branches. You have to specify which branch
to push - it can't read your mind. :)
Without that config option you need:
$ git push f13
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> 3. What if you can't bring up X in the first place? (You can't run gnome-
> display-properties if you can't get into X. system-config-display --reconfig
> was a way to fix such problems.)
That's an X bug. File a bug.
Also, an RFE: X should back out and use VESA if the auto-d
Jon Masters wrote:
> Why does it have to be one or the other? There are ways to do both with
> vitualization, separate stream of packages, multiple versions of the
> same thing. Who knows what else. The point is, nobody is saying you
> can't take a stable base and add in more recent bits for your a
Christoph Höger wrote:
> Seems like I should open up a bug report or something.
Searching the mailing lists[1] is sometimes helpful as well.
[1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-July/138765.html
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Andrea Musuruane wrote:
> Why xulrunner has been built against this and pushed to stable?
Because Firefox/Thunderbird maintainers have the ability to
Push-To-Stable regardless of what the Fedora package policies say. Harrumph.
I have previously complained of this fact before when these packages
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> You need to remember that bleeding edge to a DBA means something different
> than for other people.
DBAs worth anything wouldn't be using *Fedora* for their distribution of
choice.
No, I'm not advocating PgSQL 9 for F14, however, it shouldn't be so
far-fetched that Fedo
Jesse Keating wrote:
> It isn't going to be perfect, but it'll definitely be better than what
> we have now.
I'm still not going to use rawhide. There would have to be a kernel
without debugging before I would even think of using it for my home or
work systems. I have a need for speed. :P
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Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> One could always use a stable kernel in conjunction with Rawhide.
> Speaking of debugging info, are they still turned on for branched
> releases like F-14?
Yes. Not until the Final RC builds is debugging switched off. (IIRC)
Rawhide kernels or using a stable kernel
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> The kmod rpms for rawhide are already provided by rpmfusion. I don't know
> how often they do them nor how often new kernel releases just plain
> break the proprietary drivers. But it sure likes look at least some of
> the time you should be able to use them.
Bruno, you ca
Adam Williamson wrote:
> Why do you think it's a good idea to except netbooks? And why do you
> assume running Fedora on a three year old machine isn't a fairly common
> case?
>
> (I have both 3+ year old 32-bit only machines and netbooks running Linux
> right here at home).
The compromise is that
Adam Williamson wrote:
> That's a neat idea, but presupposes the machine you're downloading with
> is the only one you intend to use the image on.
>
Yet, many web sites I frequent use what I proposed.
http://www.mozilla.com
http://www.pidgin.im
Two examples for you to chew on.
They have a nice
Adam Williamson wrote:
> Which really aren't the same, because they're*software application*
> download sites which are detecting the OS you currently have installed
> in the assumption that that's likely what you want to install the
> software on.
OK, I think I've pinpointed where the conflict of
Brandon Lozza wrote:
> Let's say I recompile Firefox and make a bunch of my own changes and
> REFUSE to change the name. How long do you think it'll take for
> Mozilla's lawyers to start threatening me with trademark lawsuits?
In that case, Red Hat lawyers should be visiting you soon.
Fedora is a
Chris Adams wrote:
> Maybe ethtool should be added to @Base?
Or patch initscripts to use ethtool instead of deprecated cruft.
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Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> Actually I would say more Qt apps are in Maemo repositories than in Fedora
> ones,
> that's really great, people are moving away from Gtk and switching to Qt! I
> hope
> we will see it in Fedora too soon, with more and more Qt-based apps!
I'm sorry, but I do not wish to
Farkas Levente wrote:
> if you said that this's the current state of btrfs than it's not ready
> as a default fs for f16. so please postpone it at least to f17.
If f16 gets kernel 3.1 (or backported stuff into 3.0), IMHO there is no
reason to slip it one release.
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On 07/14/2011 12:31 PM, JB wrote:
> OK.
>
> Post every week on user, testers, and devel lists:
> - BTRFS testing reminder
> - BTRFS info (short notes; entries; pointers to any info, info/man pages)
> - test instructions
> - a link where to obtain latest Fedora snapshot/nightly live composes with
>
On 07/14/2011 01:07 PM, seth vidal wrote:
> googling around gets me info on how magnet links work. Now, what tools
> do we have in fedora to generate them and the Distributed Hash Tables.
Sorry for the delay again.
There's no tool required. As long as you know the hash of the torrent
you can mak
Farkas Levente wrote:
> something better. there is no roadmap, who is responsible for what which
> is the planed kernel version, how do you plane raid-5/6 integration etc...
You mean, like this[1]?
[1] https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Fennec/Milestones/8.0#Features_Tracked
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Tim Waugh wrote:
> So I'll also enable cups.service.
Are you pushing this change into Fedora 16?
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Chris Adams wrote:
> Why does util-linux have two floppy disk formatters (/usr/bin/floppy and
> /usr/sbin/fdformat)?
Why does it have any floppy tools any more? The kernel maintainers don't
support the floppy module and the module hasn't been auto-loaded for
several releases.
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Jos Vos wrote:
> We just have to wait till people come up with the argument that serial
> or parallel ports don't exist anymore.
No. You're making an apples to orange comparison. Just like Jon has done
this whole thread.
This bike shedding as gone on long enough.
Remove ddate. Karel, you're ups
Brian C. Lane wrote:
> selinux is a big example of
> this, causing a large spike as it is installed.
That should[1] no longer be an issue.
[1] http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/45414.html
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On 08/29/2011 10:22 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> It is very irritating, since I only use floppies when I really need to,
Is this due to the need to boot into DOS to run a firmware utility or
something similar? If so, you can create a bootable, DOS USB flash
drive. I haven't had a need for a floppy d
On 08/30/2011 08:02 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
> There are still things in the real world that exclusively use floppy
> disks, and they aren't going away as rapidly as some seem to think.
No need to tell me. I work everyday with SCO Unix machines that have no
idea what a USB device is. I've just foun
On 08/30/2011 06:40 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Again, please stop trying to tell me what hardware to use.
Manufacturers will tell you what hardware to use. Very few manufacturers
still produce drives and media. Sony has stopped[1] as of last year.
So, if it takes the death of your floppy drive to
Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> I don't appear to have any i[356]86 packages in any of the repos on my
> F16 box. Is there an rpm I'm missing?
How are you making this determination? At first glance, this mirror[1]
has 32-bit and 64-bit binaries.
[1]
http://mirror.hiwaay.net/pub/fedora/linux/develop
Genes MailLists wrote:
> Would a git-shortlog suffice for %changelog ?
It would need to be "git-short-shortlog" (hypothetically) as filling a
rpm changelog with hundreds of lines of commits is not very helpful.
I've always considered the rpm changelog to be a changelog of the spec
itself and a
Rich Megginson on 09/07/2011 12:44 PM wrote:
> git log --oneline TAG-OF-PREVIOUS-RELEASE.. | cat
>
> the | cat (or | more) is needed because git log will truncate lines
This is not what I meant.
Upstream may have had 20-30 commits inbetween tags. I wouldn't want to
see 20-30 lines of RPM changel
Genes MailLists on 09/07/2011 12:57 PM wrote:
> Seems pretty useful for users to see what changed - curious why not?
Users are not programmers. Commits may range from "merge from branch
such-n-such" to "ran indent to clean up formatting" which has extremely
little value to users.
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Jaroslav Skarvada wrote:
> thanks all who attended the Power Management Test day, the feedback was
> really great. Stats follows
On the topic of power management:
Is there anything being done to address the regressions[1] in 2.6.38+
kernels?
[1] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&ite
Jaroslav Skarvada wrote:
> I cannot reproduce these numbers on our testing machine - in [1] power
> consumption in active idle is +- measurement error, in other tests
> it is mostly higher power consumption, but also higher performance.
> Similar for idle graph in [2]. I will try to get one of the
Richard Shaw wrote:
> I rebooted a few times just to make sure it's not a scheduled fsck
> (not that there is a full fsck for BTRFS yet) and the hard drive light
> is on pretty solid the whole time...
The fsck tool does nothing and will not be the cause of your delay. If
your fs gets even one bit
Tomasz Torcz wrote:
>Do you have caches enabled and fully built? Remounting with
> "-o space_cache,inode_cache" will enable them. Then wait few minutes
> for caches to be built (I/O will stop when they're ready). Subsequent
> mounts should be faster.
No. I'm using "defaults" as my mount opt
Josef Bacik wrote:
> What Tomasz said, and if that doesn't help use bootchart and upload
> the chart somewhere so I can see what's going on. Thanks,
I posted[1] my systemd-analyze results to the list to show as proof that
it is btrfs.
Plus my system is silent (root is an SSD, btrfs drive is a H
Josef Bacik wrote:
> I don't doubt it's btrfs, but bootchart will tell me which one of our
> kernel threads is running so I can tell_what_ in btrfs is taking it's
> sweet time. Thanks,
I'll run bootchart and get back to you when I'm at the system in question.
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On 10/07/2011 12:19 PM, Josef Bacik wrote:
> I don't doubt it's btrfs, but bootchart will tell me which one of our
> kernel threads is running so I can tell_what_ in btrfs is taking it's
> sweet time. Thanks,
Here you go:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll20/daumas/bootchart.png
It looks lik
On 10/08/2011 01:15 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> If Ubuntu is doing a better job than us of shipping an updated version of
> OUR OWN FEATURE, we're failing very badly.
>
> What happened to "First" in the 4 'F's?
>
> Our objectives are NOT to deliver current software only 6+ months after the
> competit
On 10/13/2011 04:07 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> If
> nothing else, you can come and wait for the inevitable "why don't you
> ship nvidia kmod" type trolling. Always good for a laugh.
See you there!
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On 10/23/2011 07:47 PM, Henrik Nordström wrote:
> Disable automatic push to stable when there is any negative karma,
> requiring the package maintainer to initiate the push even if karma
> kriteria have been met.
This idea has been suggested:
https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/618
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It's been some time since I've had to build a Fedora package, but when I
tried today I'm having some trouble.
$ rpm -q fedpkg
fedpkg-0.5.9.2-2.fc15.noarch
$ git branch
* master
$ fedpkg build
Could not initiate build: Unknown build target: dist-rawhide
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Jesse Keating wrote:
> Hrm, there is a build target for dist-rawhide, so I'm not sure what is going
> on there. Can you run with -v just to get a few more details?
Problem solved. I was still pointed to my local koji. Doh!
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Luke Macken wrote:
>> In case you hadn't noticed, response to this has so far been pretty
>> > negative. It seems people liked being able to tell from the URL what the
>> > update actually*was*. I must admit I do to. I've resorted to creating
>> > the 'old-style' URLs manually when I do lists of
Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> Given that neither Anaconda nor parted/qtparted worked, is there an
> alternative workflow for dual-boot installing with pre-existing OS?
> I finished the install by going back into Windows, and shrinking their
> partition from within Windows.
Maybe give RC4 a shot? The
Jesse Keating wrote:
> Please test these updates and let me know if all is good, or if you have
> other issues. Bodhi karma, email, IRC, smoke signal, just let me know.
)
( (
)
(
)
-X-
Works fine here. Pulled, uploaded new source code, and built a package.
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Paul Howarth wrote:
> You need to "BuildRequire: systemd-units", which is where the
> %{_unitdir} macro is defined.
Shouldn't this [systemd-units] be added to the main build root?
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John Reiser wrote:
> Please give specific examples that previously evaded the 'feature' process.
I'm a little fuzzy on the timelines of these changes so I might be one
release off, but here's two examples.
-Fedora 10 changed curl from using openssl to nss.
-Fedora 14 changed openldap from using
Paul Johnson wrote:
> I did that too, but no go :(
Have you tried booting into an older kernel along with the older X?
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Ankur Sinha wrote:
> Just a heads up to the list. I'm going to be adding a fedora-medical[1]
> group to comps in the coming few days. A lot of packaging[2][3] is in
> process to get the health care related packages into fedora. If you have
> some time to spare, or if you have some knowledge on the
Ankur Sinha wrote:
> I don't remember seeing one on the current package list. Do you know
> any?
I did not see any listed either. Unfortunately I work on closed-source
pharmacy software. I was simply curious to know of any other software as
the market is typically closed-source.
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On 05/06/2011 08:58 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Gnome 3 is a usability disaster. It added some useful things, yes,
but it also REMOVED some useful things - what a hell!?
Since when is that a valid development practice?
Do we hate our users or what?
While Gnome 3 is a complete rewrite of the usabi
Ron Yorston wrote:
> I'd prefer them to be in one package: they are intended to work
> together.
Except the Shut Down menu extension directly conflicts with the
alternative-status-menu extension. Sub-packages are the safest bet.
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Peter Robinson wrote:
> Yes. Well at least I've submitted them using abrt to wherever is sends
> the kernel crash dumps. Not done a manual separate bug though.
If you add the BZ#s here or CC Josef on them I'm sure he'd be glad to help.
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On 06/02/2011 09:07 AM, seth vidal wrote:
> +1 - I've found the impact of bash completion on disconnected machines
> to be negative. I don't install it anymore for that reason.
Sounds like a bug instead of a con.
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On 06/02/2011 04:11 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Setting up 6to4 involves at least joining a service like sixxs, which
> even if free takes a certain amount of time and effort.
The method you quoted does not require an account with a tunnel provider.
There is an RFC giving provisions for globa
On 06/02/2011 05:02 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Given that I mostly don't know about IPv6, what's the best way for
> people to test IPv6 next Wednesday, given what I think are the
> following common limitations:
>
> - they'll have one (or two if we're lucky) Fedora machines
They could connec
On 06/02/2011 05:29 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> I think we're talking at cross-purposes here. I want people to be
> able to test IPv6*on their local LAN only* next Wednesday with the
> minimum amount of fuss.
In that case: Since Fedora defaults to link-local, they would have to
run radvd loc
On 06/07/2011 05:37 PM, William Cohen wrote:
> Any suggestions on tweaks to the oprofile.spec file force it to use qt4 based
> qt-devel rpm would be appreciated.
Fedora 13 qt3:
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=qt3.git;a=blob;f=qt3.spec;h=18f285029818b200c91d2b696ecc25be2d5a0649;hb=f13#l171
Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> They are available, but I think you have to build them yourself from
> source. All the information is here:
This is not an argument for libvirt/kvm/qemu/spice but against.
Here's some constructive advice:
1. Give the Red Hat virtualization tools one, unique name and
Tom Hughes on 06/10/2011 10:25 AM wrote:
> Actually building the driver (once I'd downloaded the 620Mb DDK) was
> quite easy. I'm still scratching my head over how to actually install it
> though ;-)
>
> That was only the graphics driver anyway - what I really want is the
> agent for the clipboard
Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> If you want excellent desktop usability, then organize a group and
> make the work and patches happen.
I knew this would be the response, but I do not hold it against you.
If anyone wants to hire me and pay me to do this full-time job's worth
of work I'd be glad to. ;
- Original message -
>
> As for the subject at hand, -I- find VB a far inferior solution when it
> comes to SMP and IO (disk/network) performance.
With the latest VB and the SATA controller I see faster performance in the VM
over bare hardware.
> Sure, during the years I've create a lar
On 06/15/2011 09:55 PM, seth vidal wrote:
> Heck, I'd be willing to accept ANY bittorrent server that can be both
> tracker and primary seed and doesn't require a special apache module to
> do it.
Late to the party with this response but here it is anyway.
I'd suggest switching to magnet links. T
JB wrote:
> ... and she is cute too:-)
[snip]
Seeing that Trusted Boot is not going to be a F16 feature I don't think
we have to worry about any security implications for the time being.
That is... until next time.
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Laurent Rineau wrote:
> If nobody wants knutclient, I will maintain it. I have an UPS and use nut and
> knutclient to monitor it.
Instead of nut, you should use UPower. Just a suggestion as that is what
Gnome does.
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On 07/04/2011 10:53 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> It would be nice if we could upload/commit the .asc or .sig file, and have
> the rpmbuild script
> automatically check the tar ball.
Hm, yes. It would be nice to see Koji support checking source sigs. OBS
already does so. Seeing as Debian has done th
On 07/05/2011 03:46 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> Some packagers do upload the detached sig and add it to the spec
> as another Source file URL.
Great! Except I haven't done so. I wasn't required to submit a signature
for my package nor does the Package Guildline pages refer to doing so.
Might b
On 07/05/2011 11:59 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> That sounds like an excellent idea for a contribution! Remember, the
> AutoQA project is explicitly designed to allow and indeed encourage
> tests to be contributed - we would love it if the core AutoQA team
> worked mostly on the framework, and test
Jesse Keating wrote:
> The major hurdle of having koji make use of repos of packages external
> to it has been cleared though, that work went into koji recently.
I can verify this works. Today I successfully built a custom RPM that is
completely proprietary software using Koji installed on a loca
Paul W. Frields wrote:
>
> The problem occurs in these packages:
>
> dnssec-conf-1.21-3.fc11
> dnssec-conf-1.21-7.fc12
>
Has this question been asked of anyone yet:
Why did this update bypass updates-testing?
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Eric Sandeen wrote:
> I don't know for sure if hdparm shows it; I don't think so. If you mean:
>
> -g Display the drive geometry (cylinders, heads, sectors), the
>size (in sectors) of the device, and the starting offset (in
>sectors) of the device from
Mark Lord on 02/15/2010 01:53 PM wrote:
> Note that the WD Green/Black drives do not yet provide this information.
> Bug Western Digital about that!
Most likely due to the 512-byte emulation? Meaning: We won't see 4096
reported until WD releases a non-emulated drive?
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How would one tell the difference between a bodhi edit and the first
bodhi update push? On the surface I cannot tell this by looking at the
updates e-mail or using bodhi.
Thanks,
Michael
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Jesse Keating wrote:
> If the update is to fix an issue as dire as you say it would be, there
> would be no shortage of people who would be willing to grab the package
> from the bodhi link and test it out, and the maintainer would have no
> problem spending a little effort to find people to do thi
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> If they want me to debug their issues, sure. Selective updates are not
> supportable. They shouldn't be necessary anyway, as our updates, even
> version upgrades, are supposed to Just Work. Excluding something is just a
> workaround for some bug, and not upgrading most stuff i
Josh Boyer wrote:
> 2) Karma after it goes to stable is good for informational purposes, but it
> will not cause an update to get removed from Stable. We don't back out
> updates
> after that are pushed stable except in very rare cases.
I'll ask again:
Why does bodhi accept karma or comments a
Michael Schwendt wrote:
> Nah. The same way you could consider all bodhi comments "spam". If you
> are the first commenter of a popular package, you receive lots of
> notifications for all subsequent comments (where sometimes people
> even use bodhi to argue about something).
Michael, how is posti
On 03/08/2010 11:05 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
> -1
>
> It sure looks like a californian referendum process. Let me make this
> abundantly clear: I have ZERO interest in developing a distro which is
> driven by mob vote of whomever happens to be on the internet.
>
Correct me if I am wrong, but righ
On 03/08/2010 11:45 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> And why does Fedora need to know about this?
Maybe for some GSoC ideas? I don't know. Has Fedora (or a project like
this) ever had such data before?
>
> Fedora is what its contributors make it and what its government allows
> its contributors to m
Seth Vidal wrote:
> you have been on websites that allow anonymous posting, right? You know
> what happens to them?
Yes, anonymous polling is liking playing with fire. Let me throw this
out there -- for a *first* run -- you could only allow FAS accounts to
take the survey. That would really narr
Al Dunsmuir wrote:
> To some extent, I view my current contribution to Fedora as being
> unreasonable and insisting that it be able to perform basic server
> tasks reasonably for a small home system. If it can't do that, why
> would I believe that future RHEL releases won't follow
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