Re: dnssec-trigger + GNOME + NetworkManager integration

2015-07-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2015-07-01 at 18:40 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > That's the same as saying remove the "continue anyway" frmo the > browser. Yeah, I want to do that too; actually I added it to Epiphany myself, not because it's a good idea, but because I know we'll be in for complaints otherwise, because F

Re: dnssec-trigger + GNOME + NetworkManager integration

2015-07-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-07-02 at 00:44 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > the more important question: who do gnome developers think they are > to > make such decisions? Hi Reindl, If you know enough about TLS to decide whether to click the Load Anyway button in your browser on a particular site, or enough abo

Re: dnssec-trigger + GNOME + NetworkManager integration

2015-07-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2015-07-01 at 19:59 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > Principles are good and well. But how many times did you actually USE > that option you so reluctantly implemented? :) Actually, I honestly don't remember ever using it except testing it during development. I just don't visit broken sites. T

Re: Pre-nonresponsive maintainer request

2015-07-02 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2015-07-01 at 21:33 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > I haven't gone through all the requirements but it seems pretty clear > that brasero is unmaintained. FWIW, it's unmaintained upstream as well. If anyone is looking for a GNOME package to take care of -- devel mailing list devel@lists.

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-07-01)

2015-07-02 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-07-02 at 09:55 +0200, Tomas Hozza wrote: > * AGREED: Netizen is not approved as spin. We approve the option to > have netizen as optional suite in anaconda. Please work with > Workstation WG. (+7, 0, -0) (thozza, 18:48:50) Hi, maybe there was some misunderstanding about the

Re: dnssec-trigger + GNOME + NetworkManager integration

2015-07-02 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-07-02 at 16:38 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > this type of attitude? > > everybody who reads IT news over the past years about CA's issued > certificates even for Google knows that a CA signed certificate does > not > prove anything - the real problem is wehn this happens for Google

Re: dnssec-trigger + GNOME + NetworkManager integration

2015-07-03 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2015-07-03 at 15:43 +0200, Petr Spacek wrote: > For the record, and all this can be solved by DNSSEC + DANE. See RFC > 6698. I was planning to use DANE as a second required check in addition to the normal certificate chain. That is, if either the certificate chain doesn't check out or DAN

Re: dnssec-trigger + GNOME + NetworkManager integration

2015-07-03 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2015-07-03 at 11:21 -0400, Mike Pinkerton wrote: > Isn't the whole point to eliminate the need for third party > certificate authorities entirely? Well I think you could choose to do that, or you could choose to use it as an additional security measure on top of traditional certificate a

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-07-01)

2015-07-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2015-07-07 at 11:18 +0200, Tomas Hozza wrote: > How is the Live installer different from the network installer? Is it > just some configuration thing, or are those completely different > installers? It looked like regular Anaconda last time I installed > Workstation. It's the regular insta

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2015-07-07)

2015-07-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2015-07-07 at 13:04 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Looks as if there's a lot of fall out from this. > > rpm -qi says "GNOME library for CUPS integration", which sounds > important. > > Does anyone know if this library has been replaced by something else, > or if it just needs someone

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-07-01)

2015-07-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2015-07-07 at 08:54 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Michael Catanzaro said: > > For Fedora 24, we've proposed trimming down Anaconda much more, > > since > > most of Anaconda's functionality is redundant with our initial > > setup &

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-07-09 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-07-09 at 11:22 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Is there any case to allow Supplements: in the Fedora Collection? It > seems to me like this could be problematic. (e.g. I write a plugin > for > a popular engine and package it, then add Supplements: so that it > gets > pulled in by d

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-07-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-07-09 at 21:42 -0600, Jerry James wrote: > If that is not what the word means, then a definition > in the introduction would be very helpful, since there is no > definition anywhere on that page. A hint is a weak dependency that does not affect the default package suggestion: Suggests

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 08:20 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > You didn't offer your opinion on which of the three options you think > we should go with. I would offer option 1 is the one we'd pick. It > honors the intentions of the package maintainer the best. Which > would > you choose? Option 2 is

Re: Is it time to allow Chromium in Fedora?

2015-08-12 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 14:54 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > I think if we're willing to grant such an exception to Firefox, we > should be willing to extend the same to Chromium. That is, of course, > provided that we can actively work towards cutting away at bundled > libraries and getting the engin

Re: bodhi 2 now live

2015-08-22 Thread Michael Catanzaro
FWIW I think the new version looks much nicer than the old one. Hopefully the issues will be ironed out. On Thu, 2015-08-20 at 17:48 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > * The formatting of the update notes has changed in some ways (line > breaks > gone missing?), breaking my nicely formatted notes, e.g

Re: when DEP-3 compliant patches in Fedora?

2015-08-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2015-08-28 at 14:40 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > I am opposed to any such scheme, because it means we could no longer > produce > our patches with diff without hand-editing them. > > Such information, if needed, belongs into specfile comments. Let's do that then. openSUSE already has est

Re: No autocomplete for new package in bodhi 2.0?

2015-09-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, 2015-09-13 at 19:28 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > Normally you're right, but if the package has only just been created > then it doesn't work. I assume bodhi catches up eventually but there > is > definitely a delay when a new package is created during which bodhi > won't find it and you ha

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-09-17 at 15:33 -0700, Thomas Daede wrote: > That said, flat-volume is the upstream default so we might want their > input, as well as looking at what other distros do. Ubuntu disables it. To the best of my knowledge, all other distros stick with the upstream default. I am in favor of

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2015-09-21 at 18:00 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > There is danger to the ears if an application assumes that 100% > volume > is a safe volume and blindly sets its volume to 100% without user > input. But that only affects that application - one application's > misbehavior never affects anothe

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2015-09-21 at 17:46 -0700, Thomas Daede wrote: > In the case of Youtube, you shouldn't be having any issues because > Mozilla switched to using a soft mixer internal to Firefox: > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1046814 > > If you still have issues, you should report them u

Re: bugzilla search missing fields; can't find if F21 dracut bug filed lately

2015-10-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-10-01 at 04:53 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > doesn't any kind of list in SeaMonkey (maybe because of noscript?) Yeah, the fact is that NoScript is incompatible with the Internet... probably that's not how the web should be, but it is how it is For those of us not blocking the scrip

Re: Add Gparted into Live's

2014-08-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, 2014-08-09 at 02:33 +0430, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: > GParted provides a number of essential features users might need, some > of which are not provided even by any command line tools in Fedora > repositories: resizing and moving partitions/filesystems. And > something like resizing FAT par

Re: Add Gparted into Live's

2014-08-09 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2014-08-08 at 17:30 -0700, Thomas Gilliard wrote: > Unfortunately gparted is the only way to repair a usb stick dd'd with > fedora. Need to use gparted's "create a new mbr" and formatting it > fat32, boot flag set. The included "disks" does not seem to have this > feature. Disks can do t

Maximum length of command line arguments

2014-08-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
This is of little practical consequence unless someone really wants to pass a 2 MB command line to a program... but as a curiosity, I ran a diff of a Koji build log from last year against a build from this year, and I noticed something odd in the configure spew. Old build log: checking the maximum

Re: appdata questions

2014-08-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-08-20 at 15:42 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: > why do we penalize users by hiding contents from them when some > upstream > just doesn't care about this stuff? (see also comment 7 about the > "unjust > burden")? To clarify, the goal is not to penalize users: quite the opposite. We want

Re: GNOME 3.13.91 megaupdate

2014-09-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2014-09-01 at 12:40 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: > But if you have anything extra to add, other builds that aren't > in f21-gnome, feel free to add those to the spreadsheet and I'll pick > them up for the megaupdate. It's missing hitori and the adwaita-icon-theme packages. signature.asc De

Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys

2014-09-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 23:48 +0200, Kai Engert wrote: > Hello, > > this is a heads-up for an update to the ca-certificates package that > I've just submitted for updates-testing for Fedora 19 and 20. > > The upstream Mozilla CA list maintainers have decided to start removing > CA certificates that

auto-update-debuginfo and F21

2014-09-03 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi all, In Fedora 20, if you update your system with yum then the yum plugin auto-update-debuginfo will enable the debuginfo repository, update the debuginfo packages you have installed, then disable the debuginfo repository. If you update with GNOME Software or Apper, this doesn't happen and you

Re: New Group Calls For Boycotting Systemd

2014-09-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 22:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > - intercepts coredumps > > not on Fedora, abrt does that. It's on the roadmap. coredumpctl is really great, and it's wonderful that the ABRT devs are working on this. I don't care too much about the rest of systemd, but coredumpctl m

Re: New Group Calls For Boycotting Systemd

2014-09-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 22:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > - has tools for setting the system time and timezone, and locale > > Sure. They're useful. In GNOME, our settings panels previously only worked on Fedora and Debian, with some half-functional code for Arch and openSUSE, because each d

Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys

2014-09-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 10:06 +0200, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > Unfortunately only NSS works. Both openssl and gnutls fail to connect to > popular sites because of that change. It should not be assumed that the > users of ca-certificates are only programs using nss. [1] is an interesting read.

Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys

2014-09-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 17:07 +0200, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > I understand but this is not the case here. The internet isn't broken > because of gnutls and openssl have some limitation, but because the > current NSS derived ca-certificates work assume the NSS validation > strategy. This shoul

Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys

2014-09-09 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 23:26 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > certificate_list > This is a sequence (chain) of certificates. The sender's > certificate MUST come first in the list. Each following > certificate MUST directly certify the one preceding it. We recently learned the h

timedated is broken by default in F21

2014-09-09 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 10:38 +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > Yeah, that was nice, when it worked as we wanted. Unfortunately, with > the latest systemd the NTP service which is enabled/disabled by > timedated is no longer selected from the services installed on the > systemd, but is now hardcoded t

Re: timedated is broken by default in F21

2014-09-09 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 08:37 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > (1) carry a downstream patch to > systemd, (2) carry a downstream patch to gnome-control-center Note that (1) would be much easier, since that patch is small and already exists. I expect other distros will either do this, or

Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys

2014-09-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 14:16 +0200, Kai Engert wrote: > I think it's good that we have started experimenting with these > removals > in the testing areas of Fedora, because it raises awareness of these > issues, and hopefully can bring higher priority to getting OpenSSL and > GnuTLS enhanced. > > B

Re: [Test-Announce] 2014-09-22 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2014-09-22 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, 2014-09-21 at 19:55 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > * Anything else? The dual boot release criteria? Would be nice to get those finalized as soon as possible. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://a

Re: Proposal: Increasing application icon sizes to 64px

2014-09-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 22:05 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: > Who is using magnifying glasses to view icons? Icons are displayed far larger in GNOME Shell than in other desktop environments, and the difference between an SVG icon and a 256x256 icon (the mandatory minimum size for GNOME apps, and I'm defi

Re: Proposal: Increasing application icon sizes to 64px

2014-10-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 08:57 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: > That might be a good reason, but it's not the one given at the start > of this proposal, that was that larger icons are needed for the > software centre (i.e. for applications to get included in the > installer) due to higher resolution display

Re: Proposal: Increasing application icon sizes to 64px

2014-10-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 08:19 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > I think the software center and shell display icons at the same size, > so > it matters equally to both. I would be smarter if I checked such facts BEFORE sending emails and not immediately AFTER. The icons in Software a

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-10-03 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 17:06 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > standard: choose this if none of the above apply; in particular > choose >this if you are using an alternate-desktop spin of Fedora I'd add a comma right after "in particular." > Feedback from this wide audience appreciated. Would you k

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-10-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 19:37 -0400, Ray Strode wrote: > I'm not sure it's worth repainting the bikeshed at this point, but > during the alluded-to discussion a few alternative names came up that > would have been better than fedora-release-standard: > > 1) fedora-release-nonstandard That this was

Re: btrfs as default filesystem for F22?

2014-10-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 08:42 +0200, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote: > Anyway, I recommend using only the core features (snapshots, raid1, > scrubs, balances, cp --reflink, etc...), because others have many > quirks, like send/receive which get corrupted from time to time, raid > 5/6 which is work in pro

Re: New hardware for Retrace Server

2014-10-18 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-10-15 at 18:02 +0200, Michal Toman wrote: > - Retracing now runs in memory, which means faster generating of > backtraces (by an order of magnitude) Wow, you weren't kidding. It is much faster than before. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

2014-10-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, 2014-10-19 at 23:34 -0700, James Patterson wrote: > I am in the wheel group, and if I type: > > nethogs > > then I can install nethogs without any additional authorization. This is > on a freshly booted machine where sudo has not been run. > > Should this be marked as a blocker? > https:

Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys

2014-10-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 15:00 +0100, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > > We should work with the upstream OpenSSL and the GnuTLS projects, > and > > motivate them to implement more advanced path building. This would > be a > > long term project. > > Is there some issue with gnutls in F21? As far as I

Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys

2014-10-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 15:53 +0100, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > Are you sure that this is the case with the current package? My F21 > can > no longer connect to network to test, but gnutls in it should > reconstruct the chain similarly to what nss does (not very similarly > to > be precise but

Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys

2014-10-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 16:28 +0100, Kai Engert wrote: > I confirm that using GnuTLS 3.3.9-2.fc21 on Fedora 21 testing, > with ca-certificates-2014.2.1-1.3.fc21, > and ca-legacy set to disabled, > the command > gnutls-cli -p443 www.amazon.com > reports a trusted certificate. This isn't a recent c

Re: Suggested Freeze Policy change for Fedora 22+

2014-10-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
This policy change seems like a really good idea. Thanks for working on it, Stephen. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedora

Re: Join to Mozilla Location Service in Fedora

2014-11-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2014-11-06 at 19:33 +0530, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > How do I benefit from broadcasting my location? You don't. When a web site requests your location, your browsers prompts you to decide whether or not you want the site to have your location. It's not a broadcast to random sites. For examp

Re: downgrade version of gthumb in fedora 21 final?

2014-11-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2014-11-06 at 13:13 -0800, James Patterson wrote: > Hi, > > Is it too late to downgrade gthumb in Fedora 21 to 3.2.x? > > The version in Fedora is really slow. I posted a bug with more info: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1161052 I agree that should be downgraded in F21 an

Re: downgrade version of gthumb in fedora 21 final?

2014-11-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 08:52 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > No? We push unstable GNOME to rawhide all the time; or is this more of > a case where we're worrying that a stable gthumb won't be available > before F22 is due? Exactly; since that's what happened for F21, there's a reasonable chance it w

Re: Yum-utils and DNF

2015-03-02 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Michael Mraka wrote: Hi developers, I'm trying to finish port of yum-utils scritps to DNF Hi, thanks for working on this. One request: when you get to debuginfo-install, can you please change it to not disable the debuginfo repository when it's done? Currentl

Re: Yum-utils and DNF

2015-03-02 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: Hi, I created this plugin. I think I will create something like yum plugin auto-update-debuginfo, i.e. if at least one debuginfo package installed - it will enable debug repos. Well I don't see why it needs to be done in a separate plugin, b

Re: Questions about font packaging, hinting and non-responsive maintainer process

2015-03-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 02:03 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Are those hinting instructions manually tuned or autogenerated with > ttfautohint? If it's the latter, there's no value in them because Freetype > already uses essentially the same autohinting algorithms ttfautohint uses, > ttfautohint was

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 10:41 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > False. It's entirely reasonable for a product to mandate an > appropriate > security policy, so until and unless we move account creation entirely > to firstboot, it's something the installer will have to expose. For Fedora Workstation, we

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 09:12 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > * gnome-keyring? gnome-initial-setup and gnome-control-center. See: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735578 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744735 gnome-keyring would need modified if we want to enforce password strengt

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

2015-03-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 12:00 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > * The workstation folks think this change could drive away some of > their potential users for not much gain. In their case, sshd is not > enabled/running and additional security for a device that sits in > your home isn't worth the addi

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

2015-03-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi! On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 23:01 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > or if the attacker snuck into your room when you left it to fetch some > coffee, and needs to unlock your console, implant a backdoor and sneak > back out before you return, or otherwise can't reboot your computer > because you would no

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 19:40 -0500, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > Consider a client enrolled in AD/IPA. I agree. We can meet both sets of goals with modifications to libpwquality to allow a *dramatically* weaker default configuration, and then a corporate deployment can set of pwquality.conf however it l

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

2015-03-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 19:25 -0500, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > The way we deploy LUKS, a single password guess takes one second on a > comparable hardware, so the fuzz factor is not actually as large as it might > seem. Wow, I had no clue it was that good. OK, so making one guess at the user account

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

2015-03-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 19:35 -0500, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > There is another very important case where this falls down: the computer is > enrolled into AD/IPA and the password is used throughout the organization. > Just looking at a local machine does not necessarily tell you what the needed > p

Re: F22 Self Contained Change: Disabled Repositories Support

2015-03-16 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 15:25 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Other examples might be preview releases of certain software that are > not yet stable enough to be in Fedora proper or whose installation > might be too disruptive during a stable lifecycle. Like for example > the recent GNOME 3.12 r

Re: OpenSSL MD5 verification disabled?

2015-03-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, I don't have any comment on the issue for your particular software package, since I don't know how important the security of the TLS is for that package and I'm not familiar with your compatibility needs. However, I see the following lines in the patch: // Work around ill-considered decision b

Re: Captive portal detection on wired connections - bug or feature?

2015-03-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2015-03-25 at 21:02 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > This was most likely caused by some issues with out proxy servers this > evening. We were adding 3 new proxy servers into the rotation and there > were some config issues with some of them. ;( > > This would have only affected some folks in

Re: [GSoC'15] Btrfs content-based-storage mode

2015-03-27 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-03-26 at 22:30 -0400, harshad shirwadkar wrote: > Thanks, and I am on top of it. Will post here, once I upload it to > Google Melange. Hopefully you've done this already, but if not make sure you do so *today* as today is the deadline, and if your application isn't in Melange you have

dnf debug-info-install

2015-04-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, I want 'dnf debug-info-install' to be available by default on Workstation. Right now it lives in the dnf-plugins-extras package, which depends on snapper, which we can't install by default. Can this plugin please move to dnf-plugins-core? Michael -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedorapr

Re: dnf debug-info-install

2015-04-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 14:15 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 7.4.2015 v 14:09 Michael Catanzaro napsal(a): > > Hi, > > > > I want 'dnf debug-info-install' to be available by default on > > Workstation. > > Sorry for my ignorance, but why it should be

Re: dnf debug-info-install

2015-04-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 12:25 +, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > debug-info-install is in dnf-plugins-core Ah, OK. So two problems: * The yum2dnf man page says the command is 'debug-info-install' but it is 'debuginfo-install'. gdb gets the name right; no change needed there. * The man page says t

Re: dnf debug-info-install

2015-04-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 15:30 +, Petr Pisar wrote: > Because it's not there: > > ┌──┬─┬┐ > │Original Yum tool │ New DNF command │ Package│ > ├──┼─┼┤ > │

Re: Making 3rd party gstreamer codecs work in F22

2015-04-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Telling users to install a F21 repo in F22 sounds like a recipe for disaster. Should we really make it easier to do that? We could point users towards Fluendo's MP3 gstreamer plugin in the meantime -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/lis

Heads-up: icedtea-web in comps

2015-05-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, I've removed icedtea-web from the firefox group in comps for F23 (not F22). If icedtea-web is installed by default in your spin and you want to keep it in F23, please add it into your spin's group. This is so that we can keep the firefox group as optional in the gnome-desktop- environment c

Re: RFC: LiveUSB Creator Revamped

2015-05-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 14:31 +0200, Martin Bříza wrote: > Also, to see it without actually installing it, there's just a little > bit > outdated screencap: > https://mbriza.fedorapeople.org/liveusb-6.ogv That looks quite good! I have just one comment: the < Back, Write to USB disk, Cancel, and W

Re: fedup for F23 and beyond

2015-05-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 14:39 -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > Do you think the tech could stabilize enough to obviate the first > reason? The 6-month workflow cadence remains a good idea, of course, > but could result in a major offline upgrade, instead of an entire > new distribution. I thin

Re: fedup for F23 and beyond

2015-05-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 15:05 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > With timed: you don't get the newest thing, but switching to the new > stuff is more on your schedule. You can ignore the new release for a > while and still get bugfixes/security updates until you are ready to > do > the upgrade. I should a

Re: fedup for F23 and beyond

2015-05-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 17:11 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Good luck with that vision. I would buy into it a bit more if this > wasn't the same chestnut dragged out every couple of releases to > somehow motivate us to accept whatever big OS change is being pushed. > It has become the "Cry Wol

Re: fedup for F23 and beyond

2015-05-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 09:39 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > I'm failing to connect the dots here... snappy is a different > packaging paradigm with some advantages > and disadvantages; but how exactly does it ensure that distributed > packages are newer? Isn't that > a function of the packager?

Re: New ABRT CLI

2015-06-02 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 15:45 +0200, Richard Marko wrote: > Hi, > > over last two weeks I completely rewrote abrt-cli to make life easier > for users and developers. > > It now supports tab completion and few new commands like abrt gdb and > abrt debuginfo-install. Without any arguments these comma

Re: virt-manager - libappindicator-gtk3 - remmina

2015-06-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 03:24 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > libappindicator is now (since Fedora 22) also REQUIRED for GTK+ > system tray > applets to work under KDE Plasma. (Plasma 5 no longer supports the > legacy > XEmbed-based system tray protocol that the builtin GTK+ classes > implement.) H

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2015-06-12 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 13:00 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > I hope we can get a design for this which integrates better with > GNOME > Shell and the existing network icon there. Well we're just not going to ship this in Workstation if it breaks NetworkManager's connectivity checking, nor will we s

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2015-06-12 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 12:17 -0500, Dan Williams wrote: > > dnssec-trigger prompts the user with a choice of "allow insecure > > DNS" or > > "cache only mode". The latter means "no new DNS and use what's > > already > > in the cache only". > > Yeah, and the interaction story here has been controv

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2015-06-12 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 11:19 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > It wouldn't really have to be Firefox, but getting the browser chrome > right to avoid trivial phishing attacks is critical, and all real > browsers already do that fairly well, whereas the simple embedded web > views (e.g. gnome-shell-p

GNOME captive portal helper (was Re: F23 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver)

2015-06-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 15:49 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > > > But that's not even right. Suppose you have a captive portal that > wants you to log in via your Google account. It can send you do > https://accounts.google.com, and your browser can verify the > certificate and show you an indic

Re: GNOME captive portal helper (was Re: F23 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver)

2015-06-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, 2015-06-13 at 14:36 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > using www.gnome.org is wrong. For one, you cannot guarantee they > won't > end up using some redirect and than the captive portal would fail. I don't get it: what is wrong, what would fail? We expect them to replace the contents of www.gno

Re: GNOME captive portal helper (was Re: F23 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver)

2015-06-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, 2015-06-13 at 15:54 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > If the captive portal uses the system's DNS, and the system has > cached > www.gnome.org from when you were on a previous network, your captive > portal check might use a cached DNS resolve and try to use an HTTP > connection to a blocked IP

Re: Packaging Guidelines for Applications using Git Submodules

2015-06-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2015-06-17 at 09:24 +0200, Tomas Hozza wrote: > > I'm trying to figure out the best way to handle the situation where > a > > project decides to use submodules in Git. The archive generated > doesn't > > incorporate the submodule files. Maybe this is a GitHub-specific problem. If the

Re: dnssec-trigger + GNOME + NetworkManager integration

2015-06-23 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 18:43 +0200, Tomas Hozza wrote: > I hope that GNOME Shell somehow only displays the state provided by > NM. > Bastien, please correct me if I'm wrong and please elaborate on the > details of what the functionality does (e.g. if you launch a new > browser > or so). Yes, that

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-24 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 19:07 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > My apologies.. my tone was not helpful. You are correct that asking > here is where to start. I think the groups who would be able to help > answer would be > > 1. Kernel team > 2. QA team > 3. Anaconda team > 4. Workstation/Server/C

Re: FESCO Elections - June 2015 - Results

2015-06-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 13:47 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > Probably not surprising given the silly way the election was > announced... It certainly disenfranchised me. > > The problem you see is that the announcement was sent out on 20th > June, > but you couldn't actually vote then, because voting

Re: F23 Self Contained Change: Standardized Passphrase Policy

2015-06-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
> I understand that as a request to write some simple how-to-use > document > for libpwquality and not a request to drop it altogether and use > instead ... what? > > Note also that libpwquality is highly configurable and for things > that > can not be configured currently a configuration can be

Re: dnssec-trigger + GNOME + NetworkManager integration

2015-06-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2015-06-30 at 11:24 +0200, Tomas Hozza wrote: > The thing is that some information are unrelated to NM. There is no > reason to push all information back to NetworkManager, since its role > is > explicitly defined - manage network connections and leave the DNS > resolution and configuratio

Re: dnssec-trigger + GNOME + NetworkManager integration

2015-06-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2015-06-30 at 14:23 +0200, Tomas Hozza wrote: > Except that this is exactly what we DON'T want to do. DNSSEC is an > extension of DNS and it can be used even without the need for the > whole > Internet to be signed. We want to use it even if the network-provided > DNS resolvers don't suppo

Re: Supporting hibernation in Workstation ed., draft 1

2020-05-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 1:36 am, Chris Murphy wrote: I don't know whether or when there will be any changes to UI. I think it's already conditional now. The option to hibernate appears in the GUI on my test system that can hibernate and doesn't appear on the systems it's not supported on. I th

Re: Supporting hibernation in Workstation ed., draft 1

2020-05-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 4:23 pm, Chris Murphy wrote: I only see it in the "Power Button Action" menu. OK... I stand corrected. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: Proposal: Install gparted to Live installers

2020-06-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
I don't think we actually have the technical capability to ship it in live media without also installing it by default on the installed system. It currently has to run as root, which is not acceptable, so would require some work to split out privileged operations into a separate backend pro

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: swap on zram

2020-06-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:52 am, Chris Murphy wrote: That is the plan, otherwise the swap-on-zram device probably never gets used. And then its overhead, which is small but not zero, is just a waste. I thought the plan was to get rid of the disk-based swap partition, since it has an unacceptab

Re: Datacenter move days 3 and 4

2020-06-12 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:47 am, John M. Harris Jr wrote: Why? John, this was a thread about a data center move. There was no need to change the topic. :) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to deve

Re: Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal: Default animated background for Fedora Workstation

2020-06-16 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 2:03 pm, Kamil Paral wrote: The person proposing this Change should supply some video showcasing this, or a very detailed description, otherwise people will have very varying ideas of how this works and looks. $ sudo dnf install f32-backgrounds-animated Select the ani

Re: Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal: Default animated background for Fedora Workstation

2020-06-16 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 2:41 am, Kevin Kofler wrote: "select a different frame"? Does that imply that you want to ship the full animated package on all spins, even those that do not support animated backgrounds, and let each spin pick its own preferred version out of the list (because all wil

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