2-bit laptop would be quite nice.
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ow for this or will we be back to
Windows with only one VNC session per computer. Linux/Unix is
designed around multiuser/multisession, I believe we would be amiss to
remove those capabilities from the OS.
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ics support there is also the fact that
GNOME3/Unity will only run with accelerated graphics which only
VirtualBox supports.
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ackaging cycles changing might it be time to revisit
the decision to merge Fedora Core and Extras? Creating separate repos
with different goals might be wise.
I apologize for the long rant.
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The bugs are:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=615630
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/561734
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to get more details on. is that some are reporting the bug when using
nouveau (which I assumed was accelerated).
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operate
these packages should move with utmost caution (Examples: kernel,
gcc, glibc, shell). A somewhat stable kernel ABI would help, but that
is not happening.
Recommended Cycles for major upgrades for each group:
1) User - As soon as possible.
2) System - 6 months.
3) Core - 12-18 months.
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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 01/24/2012 08:21 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
>
>>
>> Recommended Cycles for major upgrades for each group:
>> 1) User - As soon as possible.
>> 2) System - 6 months.
>> 3) Core - 12-18 months.
>
>
about dependencies?" However, if Linux
is to succeed we need to be able to be able to work with cases like
this one which OS X are fine with i.e. where only one or two packages
out of an entire system need to be upgraded leaving the rest of the
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On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 26/01/12 17:15, Mark Bidewell wrote:
>
>>
>> My coworker wants to use Ubuntu LTS for development on Heroku. He
>> wants the stability of an LTS, but he needs a later version of Ruby to
>> run the Heroku tool
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 26/01/12 17:43, Mark Bidewell wrote:
>>
>>
>> Since he was using Ubuntu I will say distro-supported, but if he was
>> using Fedora it would be Fedora supported. Ruby does not maintain
>> distro specif
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:15:01 -0500
> Mark Bidewell wrote:
>
>> I just had a conversation which I believe sheds some light on the
>> problem which a rolling release is trying to solve. The example is
>> Ubuntu bu
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:12 PM, drago01 wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
>> I just had a conversation which I believe sheds some light on the
>> problem which a rolling release is trying to solve.
>
> You didn't state how a rolling re
e is technically closer to the original intent of the filesystem
hierarchy standard. /usr/bin is for non-critical system binaries (on
some Unix installations, /usr/bin is mounted readonly via NFS).
/usr/local and /opt would then be used to hold optional packages.
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most of the "bling" enhances usability. I wish KDE didn't use
5-10% of my CPU at idle. IMO, the DE should attempt to consume as few
resources as possible.
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In addition, FreeBSD is working to ensure that the base system can be
compiled without gcc so that will add to
o be arguably be more secure than sudo as processes don't run with
root permission therefore root privileged cannot be gained by exploiting a
program. Another situation where having a group based security would be
nice is access to privileged ports. Try running JBoss as
ow on what since the
boot screen was up).
Has anyone else seen this?
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On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Martin Stransky wrote:
> Try i686 iso, the x86_64 is broken.
>
>
> On 03/06/2012 03:43 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
>
>> Last night I attempted an install of F17 Alpha on VMWare Fusion.
>> 1) My first attempt was using the install DVD. I wa
iso, the x86_64 is broken.
>
>
> On 03/06/2012 03:43 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
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>> Last night I attempted an install of F17 Alpha on VMWare Fusion.
>> 1) My first attempt was using the install DVD. I was redirected into a
>> text installer, I was not prompted to sele
, directories specified in the MANPATH environment variable
seem to be ignored.
Are these intended?
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I'm sorry to hear this as well. Fedora KDE has made great strides and
is in my opinion the premiere KDE distro. Thanks for your work!
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I don't know if this helps but here is a thread on gnome-games (uses
clutter) issues:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-April/134957.html
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install (no 'less').
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Mark Bidewell wrote:
>
> However, no GUI for installation is less than userfriendly
>>
>
> did you give the VM 768MB or more RAM?
>
> It might not really need it anymore, but last I checke
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
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> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Paul Wouters wrote:
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>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Mark Bidewell wrote:
>>
>> However, no GUI for installation is less than userfriendly
>>>
>>
>> did you g
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 07:29 -0400, Mark Bidewell wrote:
> > The VM I used had 1GB of memory.
>
> It's pretty much impossible for us to just guess why the installer drops
> to text mode. You should be able to get X
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Given that installing GNOME desktop and Base X via yum yields a functioning
desktop, I would assume that the dri
do with the names as anything else. Ubuntu names
are short and easy. Fedora names tend to be more obscure "Lucid" or
"Precise" makes more sense than "Zod" or "Beefy" (forget the fat
distro connotation...). Also the Ubuntu pattern is clear and wellknown
(Ad
. However, given that each name has a relationship
to the one before, there is a linkage. But to your point Jules Verne ->
Hot dogs? Not exactly clear.
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The bug is reported here:
https://bugzilla.r
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Unfortunately GMail's web interface does not seem to recognize those
headers :(. So a fair number of uses will have issues.
BTW thats a great tip on the headers, never know about them until today
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t; Fedora 18.1
>>
>>
>> |~|------|--|
>>
>> Fedora 18.2
>>
>>
>> |~|--|--|
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>> ..
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>>
>> How do you think?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Paolo Leoni ~ www.paololeoni.eu
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dependent packages run, they may fail due to files and directories
being missing that they expect from the main package leaving things in an
inconsistent state. Is this a bug or known behavior we need to account for
in some way?
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s on it, they will be properly removed
> when the last
> RPM that owns them go away.
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> Regards,
> Fernando
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On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 17:24 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > Le Ven 30 novembre 2012 15:11, Mark Bidewell a écrit :
> > > I have been working on packaging software into RPMs for my company.
> These
> > > RP
y model is that it becomes I want a new version of
Libreoffice so now I have to upgrade my entire system from the Kernel on up
(and by upgrade I mean clean install) to avoid issues. SC would help
decouple system and userland apps which would do wonders for usability.
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>>
> So what if we actually do .. but in a different way - eg. we would ensure
> that we have stable API, no feature breakage in a release for a package
> that do belong to "core" and allow faster turnaround for packages in
> "extras" .. it's not like locking it down as it used to be but defining
> more strict rules for certain set of packages.
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o FreeBSD/Ports.
"Core" should be primarily OS kernel, shell utilities and C compiler.
Maybe X as well. Extras should be anything not required for an operational
system even if installed by the initial install. My biggest beef with
Linux packaging has been that, by and large, all packages have to be
upgraded in sync if you want to have a supported system. Battle for
Wesnoth shouldn't be tied to kernel updates.
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er layers to
avoid the API issues you mention. Changes within a layer should be
independent. I would propose change rates of:
Level 1 - 12-18 mos
Level 2 - 6-12 mos
Level 3 - release as soon as stable packages are available.
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On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> On 12/07/2012 08:26 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
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> > It underscores the need for the base OS or core to be absolutely as
> small as possible. FreeBSD provides a good model, small installed system
> customize
apps separation is fundamentally flawed is incorrect. I would say the
separation allows for more robust upgrades ( user-installed software
doesn't taint the system tree) and more rapid upgrades of apps (a
Libreoffice update should have to wait on the Kernel).
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On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:02 AM, drago01 wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
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> >> No one said that stuff should change "unexpectedly" (and that's not
> >> what currently happens either).
> >> Actually it
I am doing an upgrade from F18 to F19 using fedup network and performance
is very slow - 3+ hours on a 20 Mbit connection. There seems to be about a
10-15 second delay between package downloads. Is there a reason for this
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ponents could easily create problems. KDE however is a tested
desktop which I would love to see as the default (or as others have
proposed a "no default"). In my opinion Fedora ships the best KDE around.
Although early signs seem to point to Kubuntu 13.04 really improving
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Are there any records of these FUDCon discussions? Creating defined core of
fun
show does not show the card. Leftover kernels from F31 still work
fine with Wifi. My card is an Intel Wireless AC 9260
Any suggestions on how to debug?
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> > Sorry if this is the wrong list for this, but since this refers to
> > Fedora 32 I figured I would start here. I updated to the Fedora 32
> > Branched release and my Wifi no
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 8:59 PM Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 2/24/20 5:51 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
> > Looks like an issue with firmware:
> >
> > Feb 24 20:32:51 precision7530-lan kernel: iwlwifi :6e:00.0: no
> > suitable firmware found!
> > Feb 24 20:32:51 preci
black screen. Normal Fedora kernels work and I have disabled UEFI secure
boot. Kernels I build in a QEMU VM with a BIOS work so I think this is
related to UEFI.
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