Re: Why EDID is not trustworthy for DPI

2011-10-06 Thread David
do this. As good as it is there are things at which Fedora flat out sucks! -- David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Firefox on Fedora: No longer funny

2011-10-11 Thread David
You'd want: > > Requires: firefox>= 3.0 > Conflicts: firefox> 10.0a1 > > (You could do the first one as a conflicts, too, but since the package > is already going to have a Requires: on firefox, might as well just version > it.) What you should use is: Add-on Compat

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-17 Thread David
On 15 February 2010 11:19, Arthur G wrote: > rolling - as in the song - rolling, rolling, rolling, rawhide! +1 giving 3 names for trees/branches: rawhide ---> rolling ---> release Reasons it appeals to me: 1) humorous reference to the song 2) alliteration, it reads nice, everything begins with

Re: The question of rolling release?

2012-01-24 Thread David
Linux release? And when can we expect to see it? :-) <<< notice this. -- David "May your road lead you to warm sands." -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

/usrmove?

2012-02-07 Thread David
with complaints of failed upgrades? -- David "May your road lead you to warm sands." -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: /usrmove?

2012-02-07 Thread David
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/7/2012 8:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:08:28 -0500 David > wrote: > >> 1) Will /usrmove already be 'done' in the Fedora 17 test ISO's? > > Any of them moving forward, yes. > >>

Re: /usrmove?

2012-02-08 Thread David
ir system *will* explode. I suggest on the web pages and in the Release Notes. And since *no one reads those first* also in the installer. As in - STOP! This will destroy your install. Do you want to do this? n/Y? Followed with - Are you sure that you want to destroy your system? y/N? Are y

Re: Rawhide is annoying me!

2011-02-06 Thread David
automagic for Joe/Jane Average_user when they upgrade from a previously working just fine Fedora release using Gnome 2.x? -- David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Rawhide is annoying me!

2011-02-06 Thread David
On 2/6/2011 5:41 PM, Christopher Aillon wrote: > On 02/06/2011 01:38 PM, David wrote: > > > Well... this is one of the things we want to get out of the GNOME 3 > test days. If you aren't getting either a shell or fallback mode, we > need to know what hardware you'

Re: Rawhide is annoying me!

2011-02-06 Thread David
On 2/6/2011 10:45 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 20:18:40 -0500, > David wrote: >> >> My concern is for those that can not deal with this 'forced' change. >> Your product is free. one can not sell a product that is broken. But you >>

Re: Rawhide is annoying me!

2011-02-06 Thread David
On 2/6/2011 11:34 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 23:12:06 -0500, > David wrote: >> 5800 GTX card to work properly. The Linux drivers do not work as they >> should. For me. And something about the version of Xorg and this, or a >> combination of thes

Re: Rawhide is annoying me!

2011-02-07 Thread David
On 2/6/2011 11:34 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 23:12:06 -0500, > David wrote: >> 5800 GTX card to work properly. The Linux drivers do not work as they >> should. For me. And something about the version of Xorg and this, or a >> combination of thes

Re: Rawhide is annoying me!

2011-02-07 Thread David
On 2/7/2011 4:07 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 02/07/2011 01:18 AM, David wrote: >> On 2/6/2011 5:41 PM, Christopher Aillon wrote: >>> On 02/06/2011 01:38 PM, David wrote: >>> >>> >>> Well... this is one of the things we want

3.5.0 kernel problem

2012-06-03 Thread David
o where they expected to find these modules. I got no initramfs file for these kernels either. In all cases I did not get an initramfs. In all cases these kernels will not boot. -- David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-03 Thread David
ot let it download anything. > > Therefore I usually upgrade by Yum. That's also a laborious > process, but I usually get a mostly working system in the end. > > Björn Persson Do you also wear a tinfoil hat? - -- David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: 3.5.0 kernel problem

2012-06-03 Thread David
On 6/3/2012 4:26 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 1:02 PM, David wrote: >> First - If this is the wrong place for this please tell me where. >> >> Rawhide (Fedora 18) >> >> I have never been able to install and configure any of the 3.5.0 >> ker

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, "What's Happening?")

2014-03-31 Thread David
om/1stclassmobileshine> So what you are saying is that you want people that Use Windows in some form or MacOS in some form that actually works as installed to switch to Linux in some form that *does not work without fudges and hacks*? Good luck with that. -- David -- devel mailing list

Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread David
Excuse me. To whom, or to where, should I write to request that dnf has a tools package like yum has. "Yum-utils". -- David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.o

Re: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread David
On 6/12/2014 5:53 PM, Fabio Alessandro Locati wrote: > Hi David, > Probably the best place to ask is on the dnf > bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=dnf&product=Fedora > > Also, I've noted that there is an open bug about a specific yum-util > (

Re: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-13 Thread David
On 6/13/2014 2:44 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: > On 12. 6. 2014 at 17:11:14, David wrote: >> Excuse me. >> >> To whom, or to where, should I write to request that dnf has a tools >> package like yum has. "Yum-utils". > > We definitely encourage you to

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-17 Thread David
GCC 2.x. > > Luya Excuse me. By now I doubt anyone but the Yum zealots really care. Just do it. Make the switch. The Yum zealots will find something else to complain about later. Perhaps the size of the default font? :-) -- David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fe

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-17 Thread David
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/17/2014 1:59 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 17.06.2014 19:26, schrieb David: > > before you call others "zealots" you should ask yourself if you > are just only a ordinary user with his single machine or have to >

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-17 Thread David
On 6/17/2014 2:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM, David wrote: > > > > > You completely missed my point. The Fedora Devs have been working on > this. The Fedora Devs want to do this. The Fedora Devs have said that &

Re: Mean machinery...

2013-07-20 Thread David
ht Rider... > > Either way, it's creepy ;-) > My Fedora 19 shuts down or reboots with no problems. Rawhide however sticks for a rather long time on shutting down Network Manager. It does complete after maybe 2 minutes. -- David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedorapr

Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

2013-07-27 Thread David
On 7/27/2013 6:31 PM, David wrote: > On 7/27/2013 6:10 PM, drago01 wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Lars Seipel wrote: >>> The thing is: is it acceptable that, in the process of reaching that >>> goal, we end up alienating (a part of) the more technical user

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread David
s way better than > any of the other options. > > > Chris Murphy > Me too!! I like Vidalia Onions! -- David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread David
ested package. It's good to have all that > options around but presenting them to user just in case he might want to > do something more advanced once a year is simply wrong. > > To educate new Linux/Fedora users, it's better to write some good > documentation or produce high quality podcast than showing them all that > meaningless options. > > > > Mateusz Marzantowicz > Excuse me sir. You completely missed the point here. You are not doing it 'their way" -- David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread David
On 9/22/2013 6:03 PM, drago01 wrote: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:28 PM, David wrote: > > No he didn't. > Sure he did. The only novice that would install Linux by himself in some form would be, IMHO, someone that is using WinXP and has been told it is soon EOL. And doesn&#x

Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days

2013-09-22 Thread David
On 9/22/2013 6:25 PM, David wrote: > On 9/22/2013 6:03 PM, drago01 wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:28 PM, David wrote: >> >> No he didn't. >> > > > Sure he did. > > The only novice that would install Linux by himself in some form would >

Re: rawhide report: 20131008 changes

2013-10-08 Thread David
ge but Thunderbird will. Go to Thunderbird > Preferences > Security > Email-Scams > Un-Check the box. Do the Scam Warnings stop? -- David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: rawhide report: 20131008 changes

2013-10-08 Thread David
On 10/8/2013 5:20 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 10/08/2013 11:08 PM, David wrote: >> On 10/8/2013 1:36 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >>> On 10/08/2013 07:07 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >>>> A big red box with: >>>> >>>> *This message could be a scam.* T

Re: Build control-center in mock fail

2013-05-08 Thread David
ms, and maven. > You forgot to mention the evil monkey that lives in your closet or the monster that lives under your bed or the things that go bump in the night. :-) -- David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Firefox in Rawhide is out of date

2013-06-26 Thread David
In Fedora 19 the Firefox version is 21. In Rawhide the Firefox version is still 20. xulrunner-22.0-2.fc20.x86_64 is available but the old Firefox will not allow it to update which also, it appears, does not allow the Thunderbird update to 17.0.7 to happen. -- David -- devel mailing list

Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-18 Thread David
anup. Any package where the > scriptlets failed will need to be reinstalled, and the duplicate > older package removed. Not sure how best to describe that > process... ;( > > kevin What I did. This worked for me. I set Selinux to permissive I rebooted (don't know if needed) Yu

Re: New UEFI guide on the wiki

2014-02-04 Thread David
ess for the old BIOS for a long time. U(universal)EFI has been around a while as an upgrade for EFI. Someday, perhaps soon, BIOS will die. Which means? If Linux can not play nice with UEFI then Linux will die with BIOS. -- David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admi

Re: New UEFI guide on the wiki

2014-02-04 Thread David
On 2/5/2014 12:52 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 21:47 -0500, David wrote: >> On 2/4/2014 5:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 14:29 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >>> >>>> and my suggestion is now to just create both

Re: odd behaviour for copr builds and openmpi

2020-10-30 Thread David
On 10/30/20 9:30 PM, Mark Olesen wrote: > I need to follow up on my own post - still haven't figured out how the > RPM requires are done. > > In the first step, I've completely stripped out my package so that it > only builds a simple library (pretty much an mpi "hello world"), and > an executable

Re: Batch updates PETSc-3.17 hypre-2.24.0 superlu_dist-7.2.0

2022-04-06 Thread David
ials-5.7.0-3.fc35.src.rpm The circle of the dependencies should be closed: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/sagitter/ForTesting/builds/ If all maintainers agree, i can create a side-tag for these new builds. Why not update sundials as well? Is only BOUT++ blocking that? Tha

Re: nothing provides mpich-devel(x86-64) = 3.4.1 needed by petsc-mpich-devel-3.16.5-2.fc37.x86_64

2022-04-11 Thread David
hout the requires it fails at run time, rather than at install time. It is probably fine to patch out the check, but no one really knows ... David ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lis

buildSRPMFromSCM stuck

2021-07-12 Thread David
something else I did wrong? Thanks for your time, David ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of

Re: Bugzilla problem? (missing bugs on home page)

2010-01-11 Thread David Malcolm
On Mon, 2010-01-11 at 22:42 +, Tim Jackson wrote: > Today Bugzilla seems to be missing bugs from my "front page"; it shows zero > for "Open Issues: Assigned to You" and many other areas where yesterday there > were quite a few bugs (and there are definitely ones that are open and > assigned

Python 3 heading into rawhide

2010-01-13 Thread David Malcolm
This is a heads-up that the python3 package review [1] is done (thanks everyone!) and that python3 is now in Fedora [2] I've built python3-3.1.1-14.fc13 into rawhide here: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1919905 I hope I haven't broken anything; I've been running with both vers

Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-14 Thread David Malcolm
python3 is in rawhide and I'm hoping to build out the Python 3 stack (help would be most welcome!) I've run into a snag with the plan of building out parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks [1]: What do we do about executables that live in /usr/bin ? For example if we have a 'console_scripts' in a

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-14 Thread David Malcolm
On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 22:29 +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > 2010/1/14 David Malcolm : > > Anyone got any better ideas? Thoughts about which of the above is > > preferrable? > > I am not sure it qualifies as "better" than your suggestions... but > the problem

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-15 Thread David Malcolm
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 10:55 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:31:41PM +0100, Thomas Spura wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, den 14.01.2010, 22:54 -0500 schrieb Toshio Kuratomi: > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:56:23PM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > > >

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread David Tardon
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:11:25AM +0100, Radek Vokal wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Caolán McNamara wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 16:01 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > >> I know that APRT is still very young technology, but after 2 months it's > >> time for a interim conclusion.

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread David Tardon
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:45:33PM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > On 01/18/2010 02:18 PM, James Antill wrote: > >On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 11:19 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > >>>Currently ABRT can at least run `rpm -qf MAIN_EXECUTABLE > >>>ALL_GDB_INFO_SHARED_DISPLAYED LIBRARIES FILENAMES' and report

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-19 Thread David Malcolm
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 16:53 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:45:05AM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 10:55 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > This reasoning (needed for testing) doesn't appeal to me at all. The > > >

Re: My git security experiences

2010-01-20 Thread David Woodhouse
ant _any_ exceptions? :) -- David WoodhouseOpen Source Technology Centre david.woodho...@intel.com Intel Corporation -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: RFC: Remove write permissions from executables

2010-01-22 Thread David Malcolm
On Fri, 2010-01-22 at 12:19 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > Hello, > In Fedora 12 several daemons (e.g. dhclient) were modified to drop > unnecessary capabilities, most importantly the "dac_override" > capability, allowing the daemon to ignore file permission bits. This, > in combination with remov

Re: boost update status

2010-01-27 Thread David Malcolm
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 14:13 -0800, Benjamin Kosnik wrote: > ... looking pretty good. Thanks everybody! > > Some deps still need to be rebuilt (qpid). > > Here are some details from somewhat current rawhide reports cross > indexed with koji: [snip] > > gnuradio > > > > python? > http://koj

Re: Purging the F13 orphans

2010-01-27 Thread David Juran
d cause is at the end of this email. > Unblocked orphan gnome-common > Unblocked orphan gtk-sharp Was gnome-common and gtk-sharp really intended to be orphaned? Removing them seem to break quite a lot (large parts of gnome and e.g. f-spot, respectively) -- David Juran Sr. Consultant

Re: Purging the F13 orphans

2010-01-28 Thread David Woodhouse
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 17:03 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > Unblocked orphan fbset I would have thought there was a little more call for this these days... is there an alternative tool? -- David WoodhouseOpen Source Technology Centre david.woodho...@intel.

Reordering in package changelogs (was Re: rawhide report: 20100129 changes)

2010-01-29 Thread David Malcolm
rent name than the old > package's directory > > * Fri Jan 29 2010 Toshio Kuratomi - 0.6.10-2 > - Really disable the python3 portion > > * Tue Jan 26 2010 Toshio Kuratomi - 0.6.9-4 > - Fix install to make /usr/bin/easy_install the py2 version > - Don't need python3-to

Re: Reordering in package changelogs (was Re: rawhide report: 20100129 changes)

2010-01-29 Thread David Malcolm
On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 17:04 +, Mat Booth wrote: > On 29 January 2010 17:00, Pierre-Yves wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 11:59 -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > >> Here's where it gets weird: > >> 0.6.10-1 then 0.6.10-2 then 0.6.9-4 then 0.6.9-2 seems an arbitra

Re: even with gcc -g -O0

2010-02-01 Thread David Malcolm
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 01:18 -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote: > I'm trying to debug an issue for the upstream author of ocp and am > running into an issue where gdb is showing "" for > variables even though I've compiled the program with gcc -g -O0. Are > there any gcc/gdb gurus who can help? > >

Re: Moving lspci and setpci from /sbin to /usr/sbin?

2010-02-01 Thread David Eisner
navailable, and then say "dang." The fact that nobody has complained may mean it's not a show stopper (e.g. use dmesg), but it's not a "hen-and-egg" problem, in my opinion. -David -- David Eisner http://cradle.brokenglass.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-02 Thread David Nalley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) iEYEARECAAYFAktoWG8ACgkQkZOYj+cNI1d6MwCeOBegidrasLG6OgROhP

local / scratch builds with fedpkg

2010-08-03 Thread David Woodhouse
I have a modified package locally and want to install and test it. Since it's a biarch package, I need to build the i686 version too. How? A local build no longer seems to work for anything but the primary arch, because it still configures for x86_64: $ i386 fedpkg local --arch=i686 ... + ./conf

Re: Fedora 14 Alpha Can Still Ship on Time IF these bugs get attention TODAY

2010-08-05 Thread David Malcolm
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 11:46 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > Tom "spot" Callaway said the following on 08/05/2010 10:08 AM Pacific Time: > > On 08/05/2010 12:59 PM, John Poelstra wrote: > >> 597858 [NEW - high - dwa...@redhat.com - --- -] "SELinux is preventing > >> firefox from making its memory writ

Re: Fedora 14 Alpha Can Still Ship on Time IF these bugs get attention TODAY

2010-08-05 Thread David Malcolm
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 09:59 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: [snip] > Here are the unfixed bugs we are waiting for more information on: [snip] > 621030 [ASSIGNED - medium - wwo...@redhat.com - --- -] Fail to save > traceback to bugzilla wwoods created a patch which has seen some testing; update has

Re: Fedora 14 Alpha Can Still Ship on Time IF these bugs get attention TODAY

2010-08-05 Thread David Malcolm
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 15:07 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 09:59 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > > [snip] > > > Here are the unfixed bugs we are waiting for more information on: > > [snip] > > > 621030 [ASSIGNED - medium - wwo...

Slow updates?

2010-08-07 Thread David Woodhouse
How long should it take for these to get pushed? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openconnect-2.25-1.fc12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openconnect-2.25-1.fc13 -- David WoodhouseOpen Source Technology Centre david.woodho...@intel.com

Re: Slow updates?

2010-08-07 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 21:35 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 20:24:42 +0100, David wrote: > > > How long should it take for these to get pushed? > > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openconnect-2.25-1.fc12 > > https://admin.fedorap

Re: Slow updates?

2010-08-07 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 13:55 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 20:24:42 +0100 > David Woodhouse wrote: > > > How long should it take for these to get pushed? > > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openconnect-2.25-1.fc12 > > https:

Re: Slow updates?

2010-08-07 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 14:20 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 21:03:57 +0100 > David Woodhouse wrote: > > > > > Thanks. > > > > On a separate topic, any idea why exim-4.72.fc14 isn't showing up in > > the repository? It was built on

Re: Slow updates?

2010-08-07 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 14:31 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > So, I would say, bump and rebuild now and submit an update. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/exim-4.72-2.fc14 -- David WoodhouseOpen Source Technology Centre david.woodho...@intel.

Re: Reminder: Bugzilla UPGRADE to 3.6 on August 13th 9:00 p.m.EDT [01:00 UTC]

2010-08-11 Thread David Malcolm
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 11:07 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > "JP" == John Poelstra writes: > > JP> Also *PLEASE* make sure any scripts or other external applications > JP> that rely on bugzilla.redhat.com are tested against our test server > JP> before the upgrade if you have not done s

Re: 155 more python packages need to be rebuilt for Python 2.7

2010-08-11 Thread David Malcolm
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 21:26 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote: > Hi everybody, > > a lot of packages were rebuilt for Python 2.7 recently, but > unfortunately they've turned out to be not all that needed rebuilding. > Essentially, all packages that contain .py files that aren't > below /usr/lib(64)/pyt

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread David Malcolm
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 10:11 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > I updated system yesterday, installed scd just now: > > [init 3]# system-config-display > File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", line 27, in > import xf86config > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xf86config.py", line 1

More python 2.7 fun: deprecation of PyCObject API

2010-08-13 Thread David Malcolm
(Sorry about the length of this email) Python 2.7 deprecated the PyCObject API in favor of a new "capsule" API. http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.7.html#capsules The deprecations are set to "ignore" by default, so in theory the API still works: every time an extension uses the API, a deprec

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-13 Thread David Malcolm
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 16:12 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:17:39 +0200 > Sven Lankes wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:21:50PM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > > > > > I wonder why I get the impression that the only ones who strongly > > > oppose this change are you folks

Re: More python 2.7 fun: deprecation of PyCObject API

2010-08-13 Thread David Malcolm
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 19:38 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 02:20:51PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > (Sorry about the length of this email) > > > > Python 2.7 deprecated the PyCObject API in favor of a new "capsule" API. > > http://

Re: More python 2.7 fun: deprecation of PyCObject API

2010-08-13 Thread David Malcolm
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 13:44 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:20 AM, David Malcolm wrote: > > Personally, I'm leaning towards option (a) above (the "don't override > > warnings" option): closing the various as WONTFIX, and adding a secti

Re: Mailing list guidelines and smartphones

2010-08-14 Thread David Woodhouse
something similar to the following to the "If You > Are Replying to a Message" part in the wiki: > > The fact that you're sending the email from a smartphone or similar > device doesn't invalidate those guidelines. Please consider sending >

spin development: how to trust an iso built outside the fedora build sys

2010-08-15 Thread David Timms
Hi there, I was wondering if there is any process that we (spin developers - music list) could use to confirm that a spin iso was 1. built with a particular kickstart file (or list of files when there is kickstart %include x directives). 2. hasn't been doctored on purpose eg by the person building

Re: More python 2.7 fun: deprecation of PyCObject API

2010-08-16 Thread David Malcolm
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 21:57 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:24:07PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 19:38 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 02:20:51PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > > > Possi

Re: More python 2.7 fun: deprecation of PyCObject API

2010-08-16 Thread David Malcolm
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 19:42 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 02:20:51PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > (Sorry about the length of this email) > > > > Python 2.7 deprecated the PyCObject API in favor of a new "capsule" API. > > ht

Re: More python 2.7 fun: deprecation of PyCObject API

2010-08-16 Thread David Malcolm
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 14:19 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 19:42 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 02:20:51PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: [snip] > Porting to the capsule API, I believe the code needs to look something > like this (ca

Re: More python 2.7 fun: deprecation of PyCObject API

2010-08-17 Thread David Malcolm
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 15:14 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 02:03:51PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 21:57 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 02:20:51PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > >

Re: Checkout entire release with git

2010-08-17 Thread David Woodhouse
shell script wrapper. -- David WoodhouseOpen Source Technology Centre david.woodho...@intel.com Intel Corporation -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Javascript JIT in web browsers

2010-08-19 Thread David Eisner
r to provide a top-notch web app runtime capable of executing both Free and non-Free applications (just as it ships a libc that can run both Free and non-Free applications). That would be my vote. Whatever choice is made, it shouldn't be based on what Sir Tim Berners-Lee intended HTML to b

Python 3.2a1 in rawhide

2010-08-21 Thread David Malcolm
I just built Python 3.2a1 into rawhide: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=191382 so the meaning of "python3" in rawhide just jumped from Python 3.1 to Python 3.2 A new opcode (SETUP_WITH [1]) was added, to speed up the "with" statement, and this changes the bytecode format for

Re: Python 3.2a1 in rawhide

2010-08-22 Thread David Malcolm
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 16:31 +0200, Thomas Spura wrote: > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 18:48:31 -0400 > David Malcolm wrote: > [snip] > > > > So you'll need to update the %files for python3 subpackages, listing > > something like: > > foo/__pycache__ > > to

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread David Malcolm
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 00:46 +0400, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > Hi all,, > > before two weeks, a discussion started in ambassadors mailing-list > about a work around to deliver the important notifications to the > fedora desktop (whatever the desktop is). > after some discussion, we started with s

Re: systemd and filesystems with noauto

2010-08-23 Thread David Michael
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > i.e. "auto" → wait for this on boot; "noauto" → don't delay boot for this. I may be wrong, but wasn't there already a "bootwait" and "nobootwait" defined for this behavior? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://a

Re: systemd and filesystems with noauto

2010-08-23 Thread David Michael
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 23.08.10 12:23, David Michael (fedora@gmail.com) wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Lennart Poettering >> wrote: >> > i.e. "auto" → wait for this on boot; "noauto&qu

Re: systemd and changes

2010-08-23 Thread David Malcolm
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 22:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 23.08.10 16:17, Matthew Miller (mat...@mattdm.org) wrote: > > > Oh, I have found a later meeting, from August 3rd. There, the > comments > > (after a brief discussion o updating the wiki) [snip] > > > [... different-topic

Re: systemd and changes

2010-08-23 Thread David Malcolm
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 23:47 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 23.08.10 17:31, David Malcolm (dmalc...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > > 20:07:05 nirik: hence F15, I think > > > > 20:07:11 nirik/adamw: I know lennart was working on a bugfix > > >

Re: Python 3.2a1 in rawhide

2010-08-23 Thread David Malcolm
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 14:50 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 04:31:08PM +0200, Thomas Spura wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 18:48:31 -0400 > > David Malcolm wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > So you'll need to update the %files for

Re: Python 3.2a1 in rawhide

2010-08-23 Thread David Malcolm
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 19:16 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:48 PM, David Malcolm wrote: > > I just built Python 3.2a1 into rawhide: > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=191382 > > so the meaning of "python3" in rawhide

Re: Python 3.2a1 in rawhide

2010-08-23 Thread David Malcolm
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 11:51 +0200, Thomas Spura wrote: > On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:29:38 +0800 > Chen Lei wrote: > > > 2010/8/22 Thomas Spura : > > > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 18:48:31 -0400 > > > David Malcolm wrote: > > > [snip] > > >> > > &g

Re: Python 3.2a1 in rawhide

2010-08-24 Thread David Malcolm
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 09:10 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:16 PM, David Malcolm wrote: > > > > A suggested fix (caveat: not tested): ensure that the python-lxml.spec > > has a > > BuildRequires: Cython >= 0.12 > > and delete the

Re: a note on order of arguements to systemctl command

2010-08-25 Thread David Smith
/etc/systemd/system/default.target or # ln -sf /lib/systemd/systemd/graphical.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target -- David Smith dsm...@redhat.com Red Hat http://www.redhat.com 256.217.0141 (direct) 256.837.0057 (fax) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedora

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-27 Thread David Woodhouse
ail to a non-root user or smarthosting, possibly with > authentication setup) requires manual configuration in any case. ... which could perhaps be done in firstboot. It could ask for the email address to use for outbound mail from 'root', and the SMTP server details for a s

Putting cross compilers into Fedora

2010-09-01 Thread David Howells
Al!) to do this. However, as the kernel advances, older compilers cease being able to compile it, so I have to go finding new compilers again. It would be much easier if I could just yum install them. Any thoughts on whether it would be worthwhile? David -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Putting cross compilers into Fedora

2010-09-01 Thread David Howells
rnel yet, except as natively-run tools (eg: make xconfig). I don't require a userspace for kernel building, but libgcc is required on some arches. David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Putting cross compilers into Fedora

2010-09-01 Thread David Woodhouse
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 13:31 +0100, David Howells wrote: > Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > I hope cross Fortran and especially cross Java (or cross Ada/ObjC/ObjC++) > > aren't needed, especially libjava builds for eons and has myriads of target > > dependencies. > &g

Re: Putting cross compilers into Fedora

2010-09-01 Thread David Howells
nce you can switch the compiler between variants of BE/LE, 32/64 and suchlike. Take FRV as another example: you only need the one compiler to build both MMU and NOMMU kernels. However, each combination of variants (eg: MIPS-32BE) requires a separate userspace libraries, headers, etc. David -

Re: Broadcom wifi drivers in F-14?

2010-09-14 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:40 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > IIRC they require a firmware blob that has a license that we cannot distribute > unlike say the Intel firmwares. I could be wrong though. That's still true of the b43 firmware for older (pre-802.11n) devices, but the firmware to go with th

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