ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-16 Thread Christoph Wickert
I know that APRT is still very young technology, but after 2 months it's time for a interim conclusion. For me the conclusions are: Pro: * abrt is a help for developers: I received one positive feedback from a developer: The backtrace looks "interesting" but cannot be fixed

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-16 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 16.01.2010, 22:25 +0100 schrieb Ola Thoresen: > Have a look at this bug for instance: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_activity.cgi?id=531343 > It was closed two months ago as "WORKSFORME", still ABRT adds more and > more users to the Cc-list. > > Obviously something is not wo

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 17.01.2010, 12:36 +0100 schrieb Nicolas Mailhot: > IMHO the big plus of abrt is it triggers even when the user is not > giving his full attention to the app and not checking what it does > exactly when it crashes (typical example is multitasking and doing stuff > in 3-4 apps when o

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 17.01.2010, 15:53 +0100 schrieb Jiri Moskovcak: > On 01/16/2010 04:01 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > I know that APRT is still very young technology, but after 2 months it's > > time for a interim conclusion. For me the conclusions are: > > > >

Re: libxklavier bump

2010-01-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 16.01.2010, 22:11 -0500 schrieb Matthias Clasen: > I am going to build libxklavier 5.0 in rawhide, which bumps the soname, > and also contains a small api change. The following packages will have > to be rebuilt: > > gnome-settings-daemon > gdm > control-center > kdebase-workspace

Re: Mumble's package owner is non-responsive, I wish to take over the package

2010-01-22 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Freitag, den 22.01.2010, 14:52 +0100 schrieb Andreas Osowski: > Hello, > I do herewith request to take over the package "mumble", currently owned by > igjurisk. > The maintainer seems to be unresponsive and all previous attempts of contact > have failed. > > According to the policy for non-re

Re: Mumble's package owner is non-responsive, I wish to take over the package

2010-01-22 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Freitag, den 22.01.2010, 17:28 +0100 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > Am Freitag, den 22.01.2010, 14:52 +0100 schrieb Andreas Osowski: > > Hello, > > I do herewith request to take over the package "mumble", currently owned by > > igjurisk. > > The mainta

AWOL Maintainer: John T. Guthrie III

2010-01-30 Thread Christoph Wickert
Seems like Fred Guthrie is AWOL. He did not respond to bugs since 2009-07-20: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512660 I started the AWOL procedure already back in October, but it slipped of my radar: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514882 John owns 18 packages in total: ht

Re: AWOL Maintainer: John T. Guthrie III

2010-01-30 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 30.01.2010, 18:25 +0100 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > Seems like Fred Guthrie is AWOL. Of course this should read "John". Sorry Fred! Regards, Christoph -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: Deji Akingunola

2010-08-09 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 09.08.2010, 09:46 -0400 schrieb Deji Akingunola: > While the truth is you never contacted me by email, and you went ahead > threatening me with AWOL policy and orphaning all my packages just 2 > weeks after filing a bug for package upgrade on EPEL 4. The truth is that the bug 60099

ConsoleKit documentation needed

2010-08-13 Thread Christoph Wickert
Hi there, is there any documentation on ConsoleKit available? ATM the package only includes a README which refers to http://www.freedesktop.org/software/ConsoleKit/doc/ConsoleKit.html which is mainly an API documentation. What I need is a user documentation about the binaries installed by ConsoleK

Re: Tsclient

2010-09-04 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 04.09.2010, 13:27 +0100 schrieb Christopher Brown: > The new tsclient 2.0 GUI is terrible and these days there are far > superior alternatives in the form of gnome-rdp and remmina which I > happily use and provide a better end-user experience. BTW: gnome-rdp is no more, remmina is

Re: Tsclient

2010-09-07 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 07.09.2010, 10:24 +1000 schrieb Chris Jones: > > Christoph, what on earth makes you think that gnome-rdp is obsolete and > has been replaced? I confused gnome-rdp with grdp, the ancestor of remmina. My bad, Christoph -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https:

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-14 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 14.09.2010, 16:01 -0600 schrieb Kevin Fenzi: > Meeting summary > --- > * init process (nirik, 19:30:01) > * pjones and ajax are traveling today, will not be able to attend. > (nirik, 19:30:30) So am I, sorry i didn't make note earlier. I will be back next Tuesd

Re: update-mime-database errors: /usr/share/mime/packages/openoffice.org.xml:749: parser error - when updating Fedora 14 packages

2010-10-04 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 11:58 +0100 schrieb Richard W.M. Jones: > The errors below happen several times during the yum update. > > Assuming that they must be generated by RPM %post scripts, I had a > look at the affected packages (control-center, evolution-data-server, > cheese, seahorse) and I

[License change] xfce4-cpugraph-plugin

2010-10-11 Thread Christoph Wickert
xfce4-cpugraph-plugin has a new upstream now. He fixed some bugs, bumped the version from 0.4.1 to 1.0.0 and changed the license from BSD to GPLv2+. Regards, Christoph -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 02:15 -0400 schrieb Orcan Ogetbil: > The question is > Am I using the time efficiently? OR > Are the these tools actually preventing me to be efficient during my > available time? How would they? You can ignore all bug reports, you can even set up a mail filter to n

ABRT opt-out? (Re: bugzilla bugzappers?)

2010-11-04 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 12:18 +0100 schrieb Sven Lankes: > On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 02:15:30AM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > > The question is Am I using the time efficiently? OR Are the these > > tools actually preventing me to be efficient during my available time? > > Wasn't there some

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 13:28 +0100 schrieb Michael Schwendt: > On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:41:22 +0100, Bert wrote: > > > > So can someone please explain my why I should continue to try to > > improve Fedora by reporting bugs ? > > Glad you ask this. The bugzapping script is stupid. It asks the

Re: coming libnotify bump

2010-11-05 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 01.11.2010, 21:12 -0400 schrieb Matthias Clasen: > I am planning to push libnotify 0.7.0 into rawhide by the end of this > week; Next time you are making an update that affects a large number of packages, please use devel-announce. TIA, Christoph -- devel mailing list devel@list

Re: nonresponsive package maintainer (gget)

2011-07-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 09.07.2011, 08:29 + schrieb Andre Robatino: > Does anyone know how to contact the maintainer (Ant Bryan)? > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=711629 Did you try to contact Anthony directly or just through bugzilla? Anthony, please let us know if you are around or

Re: nonresponsive package maintainer (gget)

2011-07-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 17.07.2011, 12:38 + schrieb Andre Robatino: > Christoph Wickert googlemail.com> writes: > > > Am Samstag, den 09.07.2011, 08:29 + schrieb Andre Robatino: > > > Does anyone know how to contact the maintainer (Ant Bryan)? > > >

FUDCon EMEA travel subsidies are open

2011-08-05 Thread Christoph Wickert
(I just sent the following mail to the ambassadors list and then figured out, that we may want to have developers at Milan, so I think it's a good idea to send this to this list, too) Hi there, if you are planing to attend FUDCon Milan 2011 and need travel subsidies, the ticket system is now ope

Why was the design-suite group added to comps?

2011-09-19 Thread Christoph Wickert
Hi, I wonder why the 'design-suite' group was added to comps. According to the wiki the idea of the feature was to *rename* the 'graphics' group [1] but now we have two apps with graphic apps. Looks kind of off in gpk-application's group view. Adding the feature owner and the committer to CC. Re

Re: GNOME and Xfce terminal entries not distinguishable in menus

2011-09-19 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 19.09.2011, 12:30 -0600 schrieb Kevin Fenzi: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:16:57 +0200 > Jos Vos wrote: > > > And the other way around, when starting a GNOME terminal in Xfce, > > the GNOME terminal immdiately shrinks itself (you see it shrinking!) > > horizontally to a width of 28 chara

Re: Responsibility for rebuilding dependent components, was: F-16 Branched report: 20110920 changes

2011-09-20 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 20.09.2011, 15:39 +0200 schrieb Sven Lankes: > Didn't we have the time an update had to stay in -testing changed to > three days during the F15 stabilization phase? Could we implement this > again for F16 to mitigate the issue? I think we should. Please file a bug against bodhi b

Re: Responsibility for rebuilding dependent components, was: F-16 Branched report: 20110920 changes

2011-09-20 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 20.09.2011, 16:06 +0200 schrieb Nicolas Chauvet: > I'm the maintainer of opencv here. > > quick answear: I have no right to submit a bodhi update for packages I > do not own. Given that I'm no in the provenpackager group. > So as I cannot expect every single maintainers to respond

Re: Responsibility for rebuilding dependent components, was: F-16 Branched report: 20110920 changes

2011-09-20 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 20.09.2011, 22:25 +0200 schrieb Ralf Corsepius: > In a nutshell: Fedora's QA process is cause of many of these "broken > deps" complaints. Please make a proposal to improve the situation and submit it to FESCo. TIA, Christoph -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.o

Firefox on Fedora: No longer funny

2011-10-08 Thread Christoph Wickert
Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable release and breaks Firefox horribly: * My favorite extensions (and actually the only thing that keeps me using FF) stop working. In the last 7 w

Re: Firefox on Fedora: No longer funny

2011-10-09 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 11:34 +0200 schrieb drago01: > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Christoph Wickert > wrote: > > Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora > > is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable >

Re: Firefox on Fedora: No longer funny

2011-10-09 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 08.10.2011, 23:51 +0200 schrieb Reindl Harald: > > Am 08.10.2011 23:43, schrieb Christoph Wickert: > > Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora > > is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable > > re

Re: Firefox on Fedora: No longer funny

2011-10-09 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 12:58 +0200 schrieb drago01: > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Christoph Wickert > wrote: > > Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 11:34 +0200 schrieb drago01: > >> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Christoph Wickert > >> wrote: > >> &g

Re: Firefox on Fedora: No longer funny

2011-10-09 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 17:56 +0200 schrieb Matej Cepl: > Dne 8.10.2011 23:43, Christoph Wickert napsal(a): > >* My favorite extensions (and actually the only thing that keeps > > me using FF) stop working. In the last 7 weeks I had to pitch in > >

Re: Firefox on Fedora: No longer funny

2011-10-09 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 19:15 +0200 schrieb Matej Cepl: > Dne 9.10.2011 18:20, Christoph Wickert napsal(a): > > > I already gave a reason why we should maintain these packages as RPM, > > but unfortunately you have trimmed that part of my mail: There is no way > &g

Re: Firefox on Fedora: No longer funny

2011-10-09 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 11:14 -0600 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen: > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 05:28, Christoph Wickert > wrote: > > Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 12:58 +0200 schrieb drago01: > >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Christoph Wickert > >> wrote: > &g

Re: Firefox on Fedora: No longer funny

2011-10-09 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 09.10.2011, 12:59 +0200 schrieb Reindl Harald: > > problem is that the packaged extensions for FF/TB are NOT > updated as rapidly they should, but this is not a problem > of firefox itself No, but it's a problem of Fedora and we should address it instead of just throwing it over th

Re: Unresponsive Package Maintainer - Gary T. Giesen

2011-11-01 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 01.11.2011, 19:36 +0100 schrieb Sven Lankes: > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:15:20PM +0200, Sven Lankes wrote: > > > I'm following the procedure at: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers No really. You should have done this in the bug reports

Re: Firefox 4 for f14?

2011-03-23 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Mittwoch, den 23.03.2011, 22:46 +0100 schrieb Jochen Schmitt: > Perhaps, we have luck and get a so-called 'Feature Repository'. I'm working on that... > If you want to get firefox4 on Fedora 14 now, the only way is to use > the private firefox4 repository on > > http://repos.fedorapeople.org/

Re: Firefox 4 for f14?

2011-03-25 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 24.03.2011, 14:48 -0700 schrieb Henrique Junior: > It may sound a little off-topic to this thread, but since we are > talking about bring new stuff into F14 I would like to know the > opinion of you, guys, about the new openSUSE's tumbleweed [1] [2] > repo, that tries to bring t

Re: Orphaned packages by leigh123linux

2011-04-01 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Freitag, den 01.04.2011, 16:14 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > The following have been orphaned by leigh123linux. Sending on his > behalf since his is not subscribed to this list > > libdesktop-agnostic, avant-window-navigator, awn-applets-extras, > gmixer, torium and html2text gmixer shoul

Re: Review swap request: dexter and postler

2011-04-05 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Mittwoch, den 06.04.2011, 02:11 +0200 schrieb Michel Alexandre Salim: > These are part of the Elementary OS project, and were recently > featured in OMG Ubuntu: > Dexter -- > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/meet-dexter-elementarys-new-address-book-app/ > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bu

Re: critpath approval process seems rather broken

2011-04-10 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 09.04.2011, 05:32 +0200 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Will Woods wrote: > > The solution is simple: ASK FOR HELP. > > The solution is simple: The red tape on update pushing needs to be repealed. As someone who is still suffering from the KDE 4.6.1 update and who has not received notable

Re: critpath approval process seems rather broken

2011-04-10 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 10.04.2011, 23:12 +0200 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Christoph Wickert wrote: > > As someone who is still suffering from the KDE 4.6.1 update and who has > > not received notable support from your or the KDE SIG I object to > > lowering the test requirements for up

Re: A new comps group for fedora medical

2011-05-04 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Mittwoch, den 04.05.2011, 00:11 +0530 schrieb Ankur Sinha: > Hello, > > Just a heads up to the list. I'm going to be adding a fedora-medical[1] > group to comps in the coming few days. Please follow the instructions from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Comps.xml#New_groups and submit a patch to

Re: Installing bash-completion by default in F-16

2011-06-02 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 02.06.2011, 16:02 +0200 schrieb Reindl Harald: > Am 01.06.2011 22:54, schrieb Ville Skyttä: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=709647 > > > > I'd like to have bash-completion included in F-16's default install. In > > my opinion it's in a good enough shape for that

Re: [OT] Xfce/LXDE wiki page seems outdated

2011-06-05 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 05.06.2011, 23:39 -0100 schrieb Athmane Madjoudj: > Hello, > > Sorry for posting this here, I'm not subscribed to Xfce and LXDE lists. > > As of Fedora 15, Xfce/LXDE are included in DVD (I checked on x86_64 > DVD), but wiki pages [1] and [2] still mention about not being availabl

Re: Provenpackager help for razertool removal

2011-06-10 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 05.06.2011, 13:19 +0200 schrieb Nicola Soranzo: > razertool package is dead upstream razercfg [1] it the successor of razertool. If somebody packages it up, it would be nice to have the package properly obsolete razertool. Regards, Christoph [1] http://bues.ch/cms/hacking/razerc

Re: Orphaning Slim

2011-06-10 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 09.06.2011, 13:40 +0400 schrieb Lucas: > What kind of relation between Xfce maintainers and SLIM. The Fedora Xfce SIG considered SLIM but we didn't use it because (at least at that time) it had some problems with ConsoleKit. We are still trying to get rid of GDM but we are mo

Re: OT: Fedora MulitiLiveCD, Current Status?

2011-06-12 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 12.06.2011, 10:57 +0100 schrieb Frank Murphy: > What is the status of the MultiLiveCD, that was being mooted last > year. It is available for download at http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/releases/15/Multi/ AFAIK the NA ambassadors have received their media already while EMEA i

Re: OT: Fedora MulitiLiveCD, Current Status?

2011-06-12 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 12.06.2011, 13:55 +0200 schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > I was trying to push it since 2009: > [Fedora-livecd-list] auto-biarch (x86_64 + i686) LiveDVD patch + ISO > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-livecd-list/2009-June/msg00018.html > http://fedoraproject.org/

Re: SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart

2011-06-12 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 12.06.2011, 23:23 +0200 schrieb Reindl Harald: > PLEASE give us a option for systems upgraded with yum > NOT USING "systemd" and force "upstart" as before systems upgraded with yum still have upstart installed (I did it myself) and you can select the init as a kernel parameter, so

Re: SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart

2011-06-13 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 13.06.2011, 01:47 +0200 schrieb Reindl Harald: > > Am 13.06.2011 00:54, schrieb Christoph Wickert: > > Am Sonntag, den 12.06.2011, 23:23 +0200 schrieb Reindl Harald: > >> PLEASE give us a option for systems upgraded with yum > >> NOT USING "sys

Re: Packages that will be orphaned

2011-06-21 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 20.06.2011, 10:34 -0700 schrieb Toshio Kuratomi: > Due to the requirement for contributors to sign the FPCA by Thursday of last > week, certain package owners who haven't yet signed will be removed from the > packager group soon. Have these packager been contacted directly in time

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-26 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 26.06.2011, 17:08 +0200 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Felix Miata wrote: > > FF5 is the security update to FF4.0.1, which incorporates an upstream > > versioning policy change. > > The funny thing is that Firefox is going exactly the opposite way of us with > their update policies, T

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-26 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 26.06.2011, 13:25 -0300 schrieb Evandro Giovanini: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Christoph Wickert > wrote: > > Am Sonntag, den 26.06.2011, 17:08 +0200 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > >> Felix Miata wrote: > >> > FF5 is the security update to FF4.0.

Re: Unresponsive Package Maintainer - Jeroen van Meeuwen

2011-06-27 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Freitag, den 17.06.2011, 14:37 +0200 schrieb Farkas Levente: > On 06/17/2011 02:01 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > I'm following the procedure at: > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers > > > > Does anyone know how to contact Jeroen van Meeuwen? He is no

Re: pyxfce package

2011-07-06 Thread Christoph Wickert
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 21:16 +0200, Raphael Groner wrote: > FYI, since nobody seems to show any interest at Xfce upstream > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/xfce/2011-July/000630.html I don't think it should be in Fedora then. We should focus on well maintained software. Regards, Chris

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v2] Retiring packages in F-16

2011-07-12 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 12.07.2011, 17:10 -0400 schrieb Bill Nottingham: > Orphan tango-icon-theme > Orphan tango-icon-theme-extras I have taken these. Regards, Christoph -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Sindre Pedersen Bjørdal is AWOL, 25 packages looking for new owners

2010-02-02 Thread Christoph Wickert
Sindre Pedersen Bjørdal was declared to be MIA in a fast track nonresponsive maintainer procedure [1, 2]. This means that we had to orphan all his packages, 25 in total: * DMitry -- Deepmagic Information Gathering Tool * arp-scan -- Scanning and fingerprinting tool * avant-wind

Re: Mumble's package owner is non-responsive, I wish to take over the package

2010-02-02 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Freitag, den 22.01.2010, 14:52 +0100 schrieb Andreas Osowski: > Hello, > I do herewith request to take over the package "mumble", currently owned by > igjurisk. > The maintainer seems to be unresponsive and all previous attempts of contact > have failed. > > According to the policy for non-re

Re: Sindre Pedersen Bjørdal is AWOL, 25 packages looking for new owners

2010-02-02 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 02.02.2010, 23:45 + schrieb Peter Robinson: > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Christoph Wickert > > If you are interested in maintaining one of these packages, > please pick > them up in packagedb at >

Re: Sindre Pedersen Bjørdal is AWOL, 25 packages looking for new owners

2010-02-02 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Mittwoch, den 03.02.2010, 00:47 +0100 schrieb Michael Schwendt: > On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:15:41 +0100, Christoph wrote: > > > Sindre Pedersen Bjørdal was declared to be MIA in a fast track > > nonresponsive maintainer procedure [1, 2]. This means that we had to > > orphan all his packages, 25 in

Re: Sindre Pedersen Bjørdal is AWOL, 25 packages looking for new owners

2010-02-02 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 02.02.2010, 18:59 -0500 schrieb Toshio Kuratomi: > On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 11:45:30PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Christoph Wickert < > > christoph.wick...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > Sindre Pedersen Bj

Re: Sindre Pedersen Bjørdal is AWOL, 25 packages looking for new owners

2010-02-02 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 02.02.2010, 19:16 -0500 schrieb Seth Vidal: > > On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > > Huh? the list I posted was from packagedb and both seth and me counted > > 25 packages: http://fpaste.org/NpTL/ > > no, that list is from the potent

ABRT unusable again

2010-02-05 Thread Christoph Wickert
What's wrong with ABRT? ALl the backtraces I get are unusable again. If Thunar crashes, not even Thunar-debuginfo gets installed. abrt 1.0 worked here, then came 1.0.2 which was broken. 1.0.3 was working again, but got superseded be 1.0.4 only a few of days later. This means that most of the time

Re: ABRT unusable again

2010-02-06 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 06.02.2010, 10:51 +0100 schrieb Michael Schwendt: > On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:46:54 +0100, Christoph wrote: > > > What's wrong with ABRT? ALl the backtraces I get are unusable again. If > > Thunar crashes, not even Thunar-debuginfo gets installed. > > Which kernel release? > Perhaps

Re: ABRT unusable again

2010-02-06 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 06.02.2010, 19:27 +0100 schrieb drago01: > Well reports should go to the maintainer first, he should forward it > to upstream as needed. I disagree. Basically there are two situations: 1. The backtrace or the bug report is incomplete. In 95% of these cases submitters

Re: ABRT unusable again

2010-02-06 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 06.02.2010, 16:22 +0100 schrieb Till Maas: > On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 12:23:31PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > +1. ABRT is just broken in so many ways it's not even funny and should > > never > > have been shipped in its current state. > > For yum related python backtrace bugs,

Re: ABRT unusable again

2010-02-06 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 06.02.2010, 21:59 +0100 schrieb drago01: > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Thomas Spura > wrote: > > Am Samstag, den 06.02.2010, 20:18 +0100 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > >> Am Samstag, den 06.02.2010, 19:27 +0100 schrieb drago01: > >> > What needs

Re: ABRT unusable again

2010-02-07 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 07.02.2010, 22:26 +0100 schrieb Karel Klic: > The script to find backtraces without debuginfo has been written[1]. Thanks a lot for your work and for your latest mail as well! > I > placed the list of found bugs to the Fedora wiki [2]. IMHO only bugs > with 2 comments should b

John T. Guthrie III is AWOL - 18 packages for the grabs

2010-02-08 Thread Christoph Wickert
After more than 7 months John T. Guthrie III is now officially AWOL, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514882 and my previous mail http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-January/130011.html John owned 18 packages: * checkdns -- A Domain Name Server analysis and re

Re: John T. Guthrie III is AWOL - 18 packages for the grabs

2010-02-08 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 08.02.2010, 12:25 +0100 schrieb Thomas Janssen: > 2010/2/8 Christoph Wickert : > > * edje -- A graphical layout and animation library > > * eet -- Library for speedy data storage, retrieval, and > > compression > > * epeg -- Imme

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-02-11 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 18.01.2010, 21:58 -0800 schrieb Adam Williamson: > On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 15:12 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > > I doubt this very much. Many people don't report the bugs when the app > > crashes but later, many reports in a row. Most of my reports read &

Re: ABRT unusable again

2010-02-15 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 07.02.2010, 14:16 +0100 schrieb Jiri Moskovcak: > - ABRT uses the code from Dr.Konqui to rate the backtrace and doesn't > allow user to send it if the rate is bellow 3 (the scale is 0-4), but > the bug in GUI let user to send even the bad BT. I think this bug should be fixed now

Re: Fedora 13 has been branched!!

2010-02-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 16.02.2010, 20:31 -0800 schrieb Jesse Keating: > > static-repos will act as it normally does for a released Fedora. The > repo seen is what is in the buildroot, which is what is tagged for > release, and anything we've tagged "override" to make it available in > the buildroot for

Re: Fedora 13 has been branched!!

2010-02-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 10:34 +0100 schrieb Michal Schmidt: > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:04:13 +0100 Christoph Wickert wrote: > > This means that chainbuilds are no longer possible and this slows > > development down dramatically. Think of a feature like Xfce 4.8 with > > i

Re: Fedora 13 has been branched!!

2010-02-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 12:18 +0100 schrieb Till Maas: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:44:10AM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > > And what about the updates that don't have a custom tag? > > If the update is big enough, that a lot of packages require a rebuild, > u

Re: Fedora 13 has been branched!!

2010-02-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 15:07 +0100 schrieb Till Maas: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 02:23:22PM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > > ... > > Usually when some of mine packages need to be rebuild because of updated > dependencies, the communication is usually one-way. I ge

Re: Fedora 13 has been branched!!

2010-02-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 06:45 -0800 schrieb Jesse Keating: > On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 15:28 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > > > Right, now there no longer is early branching for selected packages on > > demand but a general early branches for all packages. > > E

Re: Fedora 13 has been branched!!

2010-02-18 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 18.02.2010, 07:36 -0800 schrieb Jesse Keating: > We typically assign the ticket to ourself, whoever is doing > the tag, so that when the reporter says the build is done we see it and > can do the untag and close the ticket. If the ticket is assigned to a single person, I doubt

Another great update

2010-03-06 Thread Christoph Wickert
While we are at it, here is another great update: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2010-3326 * New version introduced in F11. * Doesn't fix any bugs but it's an enhancement only. * Useless update description "update to 4.7.1". * And *of course* it was push

Re: Another great update

2010-03-06 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 06.03.2010, 18:17 +0100 schrieb Michał Piotrowski: > Hi, > > 2010/3/6 Christoph Wickert : > > While we are at it, here is another great update: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2010-3326 > > > > * New version introduced i

Re: Another great update

2010-03-06 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 06.03.2010, 19:30 +0100 schrieb Michał Piotrowski: > I have seen some discussions, but I don't follow them. I'm waiting for > results ;) Get involved, try to influence the discussion. > Pity. There are many Fedora policies that are useless for end users > like me, but update poli

Re: Another great update

2010-03-06 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 06.03.2010, 21:10 +0100 schrieb Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski: > On Saturday, 06 March 2010 at 18:49, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > Am Samstag, den 06.03.2010, 18:17 +0100 schrieb Michał Piotrowski: > [...] > > > Because I don't understand t

Re: Another great update

2010-03-06 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 06.03.2010, 19:38 +0100 schrieb Michał Piotrowski: > 2010/3/6 Naheem Zaffar : > > [snipped] > > PS other places that have more stable updates also have their problems - > > there are many users who dislike Ubuntu because bugs are not fixed and they > > have to live with them far too

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 08.03.2010, 12:27 +0200 schrieb Juha Tuomala: > Again, you can't cut regressions from features :( > > To name few, your last push comes with: > - kmail that can't anymore 'Add address to book'. > - kaddressbook doesn't have 'Merge' feature anymore. > - kaddressbook View, Edit, Tool

Update policies: What about *regular* updates?

2010-03-09 Thread Christoph Wickert
We are talking a lot about update policies recently. While I do (mostly) agree with those who suggested a more conservative approach, I wonder what will then happen to packages that actually *need* regular updates. Let me give you two examples: 1. openal-soft: Is under steady development and i

Re: Meeting summary/minutes for 2010-03-09 FESCo meeting

2010-03-10 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 09.03.2010, 20:25 -0500 schrieb Seth Vidal: > I agree, there was obviously a divisive and destructive aspect to that > meeting. > > Jonathan, Do you have any thoughts on what we can do to correct it? Seth, respect would be a good starting point. > 20:45:30 I know there are pe

Re: rpms/remmina/F-13 import.log,1.1,1.2 remmina.spec,1.4,1.5

2010-03-16 Thread Christoph Wickert
integrated and consistant > + user interface. Currently RDP, VNC, XDMCP and SSH are supported. You brought all the typos back that I fixed yesterday! :( Please use rpmlint to check the spelling. > %changelog > +* Tue Mar 16 2010 Damien Durand - 0.7.4-3 > +- Fix changelog > + >

Re: rpms/remmina/F-13 import.log,1.1,1.2 remmina.spec,1.4,1.5

2010-03-16 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 16.03.2010, 19:08 +0100 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > With cvs-import you have no option to change the changes. s/change/check Christoph -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Orphaning DR17 and EFL

2010-03-16 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 16.03.2010, 22:11 +0100 schrieb Thomas Janssen: > The real reason to get the packages orphaned is the continued > annoyance of cwickert on IRC (#fedora-de), trying to force me into the > role of the bad guy there, since he did not understand the problem, > even not in the FESCo Me

Re: rpms/remmina/F-13 import.log,1.1,1.2 remmina.spec,1.4,1.5

2010-03-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Mittwoch, den 17.03.2010, 12:47 +0100 schrieb Nicolas Mailhot: > > Le Mar 16 mars 2010 19:09, Christoph Wickert a écrit : > > > > Am Dienstag, den 16.03.2010, 19:08 +0100 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > >> With cvs-import you have no option to change the changes. >

Re: Orphaning DR17 and EFL

2010-03-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Thomas, I don't want to go into details because I don't want a flame war, but the IRC backlogs prove you wrong in different ways. And still I wouldn't dare calling you a liar. Am Mittwoch, den 17.03.2010, 09:13 +0100 schrieb Thomas Janssen: > I'm sorry. but you *are* a liar. You proved it again

Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-21 Thread Christoph Wickert
Why has Fedora become so fat in the F13 development cycle? * The LXDE Spin has grown from 464 MB to 509 MB [1] without a single change in the Spin. There actually was a change, SLIM was replaced with LXDM, but LXDM is actually smaller because it doesn't require the de

Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 22.03.2010, 09:43 +0100 schrieb Hans de Goede: > Hi, > > Maybe somehow fluid-soundfont-gm or fluid-soundfont-lite-patches is getting > dragged in ? Nope, according to the logs [1+2] they are not in there. Also it's a steady growth instead of some big changes. Regards, Christoph

Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 22.03.2010, 09:13 -0400 schrieb Seth Vidal: > > On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote > > >> Any ideas what made Fedora become so fat or how to further investigate > >> this

Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 22.03.2010, 14:49 -0500 schrieb Mike McGrath: > On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > > Am Montag, den 22.03.2010, 09:13 -0400 schrieb Seth Vidal: > > > > > > On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > > > >

Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 22.03.2010, 21:24 +0100 schrieb Michael Schwendt: > On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:09:27 +0100, Christoph wrote: > > > > > > rpm -qa --qf "%{name}\n" | sort > rpm-out > > > > > > > > > > then you can diff the two more easily. > > > > > > > > I know how to use rpm, but as long as I don't hav

Re: F13Beta OPEN bugs -- need to be by Thu, March 25

2010-03-23 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 23.03.2010, 18:12 +0100 schrieb Michał Piotrowski: > I tried to run a security spin 20100320. It hangs after this fancy > boot screen animation. It might be releated to > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572243 but I'm not sure if > it's the same problem. I'm pretty s

Re: F13Beta OPEN bugs -- need to be by Thu, March 25

2010-03-23 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 23.03.2010, 19:55 +0100 schrieb Michał Piotrowski: > 2010/3/23 Christoph Wickert : > > > I just fixed this in > > http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=spin-kickstarts.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad6311931264f48ed10ee52802ebd96f8a33597f > > Thanks! > > I will t

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