Hi William, please add yourself to the bug and of course provide any
information you
can provide. We need to know more about the scope of this to be able to
determine
if its a blocker or not. Of course our challenge is that until we have a way to
reproduce on a system our devs can look at or get
Sounds great, I know Allan and Richard has some mockups for
how they want to do upgrades in GNOME Software, so hopefully
this will make it even easier to implement.
Christian
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To chime in here, we have been doing something like this in
GStreamer for a long while. There is 'plugins-base' and 'plugins-good'
plugins which is comparable to the current core Fedora repository.
Any plugin going into base or good need to conform to certain
coding standards, licensing standards
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> There is also a third group, somewhere in between, who believe that's ok
> to ship Free Software that connects and interops with proprietary
> services (gtalk, aws, etc), but it's not ok to ship proprietary
> software, metadata about proprie
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Hi Mairin,
Not sure exactly where you are coming from in terms of wanting legal
to weigh in, but in general I don't think legals opinion is very relevant
and this point. The first step here should always be us as a project deciding
what
user experience we want to offer our users, then once that i
ora's Foundations
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> > On 23 April 2014 02:29, Christian Schaller wrote:
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> >> Hi Mairin,
> >> Not sure exactly where you are coming from in terms of
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quite low on detail atm., and not all items might be self explanatory and as
mentioned we do hope to add more detailed information to each item in the next
few days.
Sincerely,
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> >> That's fine. I don't have a problem add
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> Am 09.12.2014 um 15:57 schrieb Christian
My guess is that you have a system with hybrid graphics,
we made it default to X since the support for hybrid graphics
is not available fully in Wayland yet. We hope to land that for
F26.
Christian
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> From: "Kevin Kofler"
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> Subject: Re: The glvnd + mesa update for F25
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> Hans de Goede wrote:
> > First the what: ever since AMD and NVIDIA started shipping
> > their own Linux drive
There has been a lot of discussions for the last few years about glvnd on
the mesa-devel list and at XDC. This is not Fedora specific technology, but
a change in how Mesa will work everywhere and thus there has not been a lot
of discussions about it here on Fedora-devel. But that is true for most
wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 06-02-17 23:01, Jan Pokorný wrote:
> >>
> >> On 06/02/17 15:13 -0500, Christian Schaller wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There has been a lot of discussions for the last few years about glvnd on
> >>> the mesa-devel l
Actually isn't Cockpit our 'YAST', I mean it is not a 1to1 thing, but
for a lot of things Cockpit provides the featureset a sysadmin would
want.
Christian
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> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 20
Hi,
So just wanted everyone to know that we now have the go ahead to ship mp3
encoding in Fedora too. So anyone involved with packaging
mp3 encoders can now start migrating them to the Fedora repositories. We are
still in the process of evaluating other codecs.
Christian
3, 2017, Technicolor's mp3 licensing program for certain mp3
> related patents and software of Technicolor and Fraunhofer IIS has
> been terminated.
> """
>
> https://www.iis.fraunhofer.de/en/ff/amm/prod/audiocodec/audiocodecs/mp3.html
>
> --Jon
>
> On We
topic through RH legal?
>
> Presumably one does not need legal sign-off when patents legally
> expire, but this topic is significant.
>
> We can now package mp3 encoding software.
>
> That is a big thing.
>
> --Jon
>
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Christian Sc
One major reason is that it enables us to move towards having the Atomic
Workstation
version be the primary one and maybe in the (very) long run be the only one.
A bit more detail about that can be found here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/AtomicWorkstation
Or this talk from FLOCK b
I think this email from Owen summarizes what we need to keep in mind here.
Containers have caught on due to solving some important problems and thus
people are looking at models for what the future operating system would look
like where containers are the primary content delivery mechanism. In Fedo
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> >
> > It looks like it is designed only for developers by developers.
> >
> > What about graphic designers, musicians, document writers, etc.? They
> > all are not mentioned as target audience.
>
> Per this document, those would fall into the "Other users" secti
Hi Bill,
It is a good question. It does seem a bit more detailed than the level I tried
to put this document on, so
maybe should a style guide would be part of second stage working group output.
But what probably would belong in this
document would be a paragraph saying we intend to come up with
The PRD avoids these questions by design. To often open source discussions end
up
being discussions about the merits of the means as opposed to the actual goals.
It should be a sobering notion that for all the years when the community
discussed
if the a successful desktop should be implemented i
Funnily enough I had a discussion last week where it turned out the
disagreement wasn't so much a disagreement, but a different contextualisation
of the word 'support'.
And I think that will be the crux here too. To me the main part of 'supporting'
something here will be in handling our ABI story
The term 'Power user' is not meaningless if you use it to refer to users of
Fedora on IBM Power architecture ;)
But apart from that I do agree that the term as generally used doesn't provide
a very clear target for development.
Christian
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> To: "D
Hi Ryan,
I been discussing the possibilities of doing some surveys with Langdon White,
so hopefully yes.
We just need to rustle up the budget first :)
Christian
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To: "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop"
, devel@lists.fedoraprojec
> >> So sure, we can have software that will pull things in if the user has
> >> done some manual intervention. We just cant, currently, do that thing
> >> for them.
> >
> > Right, that's exactly what I was saying. I just think this is all the
> > _original poster_ was talking about, not any kind
> > I would actually like to go a little further, and make it easy to enable
> > 'clean' third-party repositories. If we imagine a future where e.g.
> > valve is hosting a repository with their steam client, or say, the
> > chromium web browser is available from the a fedora people page, I would
>
Hi Frank,
They will, although in some sense I am the wrong person to ask this question as
it
will be up to the people developing and packaging these DE's just like it is
now.
The difference from today here though will be that there will be some
requirements for being available
for the workstati
Hi,
The core principle of the installer is that it operates on an application level
and not a package level. The current way it determines if something is an
application
is by looking for a .desktop file. So in theory you could put a bitchx.desktop
file into the bitchx package and it would app
Well the installer is work in progress and there are a lot of features missing
still, and
there are still questions that we need to figure out the answer to in terms of
installing various things.
We are trying to nail down the core design first before adding support for
'everything',
but there
Ok, so I guess the solution would be for the launcher to do something like this:
gnome-terminal --geometry 80x37 --disable-factory --role=bitchx --class=bitchx
--name "bitchX IRC" --title "BitchX IRC"
That said Ray mentioned that this is probably not supported yet in the Shell
launcher.
Anywa
Hi everyone,
So on behalf of the Workstation Working Group I would like to say thank you to
everyone who has taken the time so far to chime in. There has been a lot of
passionate discussion happening
and that is the way we like it. So while we might not have been able to respond
to each and ever
The difference here is that the resources for GNOME (or anything else Red Hat
needs for future versions of RHEL) are
provided by Red Hat. So if you want the spins to the logically the same in
terms of resources we should start demanding
that any spin set up needs to provide an annual monetary c
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> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:45:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins
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>
> On Thu, Jan 30,
the fate of Spins
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Christian Schaller < cscha...@redhat.com >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> What I mean to say is that Red Hat has a business motive to support the
> Fedora community,
> if supporting Fedora was a pure act of charity t
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>
> On 01/30/2014 12:08 PM, Christian Schaller wrote:
> > My statements was directly targeted at the often repeated attitude on this
> > list which
> > seems to be that Red Hat should shut u
Actually, I was told that Debarshi committed a fix for the TLS error in captive
portal just last
week and has pushed a fix for it.
Christian
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> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 1:16:08
That is not 100% correct. You can make a non-sandboxed Flatpak and
it would work just as well as an RPM in terms of hardware access.
Enabling sandboxing however would need some thought and development
for a lot of such applications, but we are slowly but surely working
on it through things like th
pa"
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>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 10:52:37 AM
> Subject: Re: GSequencer upstream wants to package for fedora
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Christian Schaller
> wrote:
> > That is not 10
While most desktop applications have migrated to 64 bit at this point there are
still many that hasn't. Steam for instance is still 32-bit afaict. So doing a
clean
cutover like this feel a bit to drastic to me and I am not sure we have the
market power
to 'force' vendors to quickly migrate to con
On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 2:36 PM Demi Marie Obenour
wrote:
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>
> Why is a Flatpak a better choice for LibreOffice?
> --
> Sincerely,
> Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)
>
There are a lot of ways to answer this, but from any upstream the advantage
of Flatpak is that it means package once and then d
Yes, sorry about that meant now of course 😃
On Thu, Jun 1, 2023, 6:45 PM Demi Marie Obenour
wrote:
> On 6/1/23 15:59, Christian Schaller wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 2:36 PM Demi Marie Obenour >
> > wrote:
> >> Why is a Flatpak a better choice for LibreOffice?
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 9:40 AM Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 2:28 PM Stephen Smoogen
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 07:20, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> >>
> >> Lets not make this a drama.
> >>
> >> Package maintenance changes have never gone through change proposals
For those interested the bugzilla request for adding this module is here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1501522
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