----- Original Message -----
> From: "Reindl Harald" <h.rei...@thelounge.net>
> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:40:20 AM
> Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall
> 
> 
> Am 15.04.2014 11:32, schrieb drago01:
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net>
> > wrote:

> allow any random application to open a unprivlieged
> port which is reachable from outside is dangerous
> 
We already allow that and have for a long while. Any application bothering to 
support the firewalld dbus interface can open any port 
they wish to.

There was a long thread about this on the desktop mailing list, and I was not 
in the 'disable the firewall' camp in that discussion,
but nobody in that thread or here have articulated how the firewall exactly 
enhance security in the situation where we at the 
same time need to allow each user to have any port they desire opened for 
traffic to make sure things like DLNA or Chromecast works.

The thread discussing this ended up with mostly being a discussion if the 
firewall would be a useful way to help users from accidentally 
oversharing on a public network. Which is important and something we want to 
work on, but a lot less so than security issues.

Christian
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