On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 16:24 +, Nick Clifton wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> >> SystemTap is failing on pthread_cancel, which is odd since we have no
> >> mention of pthread in our own sources. It seems to be pulled in by some
> >> headers in the STL. Consider this minimal example:
> >>
> >> $ cat string.
On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 12:23 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
> Hi folks,
> This lwn article reports that berlios.de has been compromised for a long,
> long time.
>
> http://lwn.net/Articles/369633/
>
> So I compiled a little list of pkgs that need a look:
>
> http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/misc/berl
On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 07:53 +1300, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 17:03 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > Unblocked orphan fbset
>
> I would have thought there was a little more call for this these days...
> is there an alternative tool?
drmfb doesn't implement the fbdev mode settin
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 15:06 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> $ i386 fedpkg local --arch=i686
> ...
> + ./configure --build=x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
> --host=x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu --program-prefix=
> --disable-dependency-tracking --prefix=/usr --exec-prefix=/usr
> --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/us
On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 19:32 +0200, Jos Vos wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a problem with an IBM point-of-sale system with an Intel 82Q35
> graphics chipset that does not work in RHEL6/F13, but that does work
> fine on SLED 11 !!! That system has a 15" display attached and also
> a VGA port for a second
On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 22:18 +0200, Jos Vos wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 03:26:16PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
>
> > intel-...@lists.freedesktop.org would be the place to go for this. As a
> > guess, you've got LVDS attached over SDVO and we screwed that up again.
&g
On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 23:12 +0200, Jos Vos wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 04:41:33PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
>
> > This is almost certainly the root of the problem. We don't try to set
> > up SDVO devices if they're not listed in the VBT, but not having a VBT
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 09:54 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:03:07 -0400, Bill wrote:
> > Just saying that the person to commit the fixes found in the review
> > should (IMO) not be the reviewer themselves, even if they happen to
> > be a provenpackager. It allows for a havin
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 08:20 -0700, Bob Arendt wrote:
> If support for text mode installation is dead (or dying), recent
> traffic on the test & develop list indicates that there's still a
> strong need to have a fall-back installation mode. Just in case the
> your particular version of Radeon, NVi
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 15:00 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> EDID & DDC are mere conveniences unnecessary to the function of the device. I
> really couldn't care less whether EDID/DDC exists, much less works. What
> matters (works just fine) from a display, which may have been manufactured
> before the
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 15:13 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> For the benefit of those few, and there will likely always be some, for whom
> automatic isn't, some tool is needed upstream in Xorg, possibly SaX2 or SCD
> at least as a starting point. A wider call for a maintainer of SaX2 or SCD or
> some
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 12:43 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler said:
> > I tried many things, even running for FESCo and getting voted in. As you
> > can
> > see, it didn't achieve anything either.
>
> Is it impossible for you to accept the fact that not everybody agrees
On Fri, 1994-08-19 at 16:22 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> I want none of that useless crap, thank you very much! Applications should
> be written as applications, delivered through our package repository, in a
> compiled language. Web sites should just be web sites and have as little
> code as p
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 15:01 -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote:
> If we tolerate any non free software then what's the point? Why not
> just run Windows or OSX?
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On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 15:48 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 20:37 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > Given the degree to which sysadmins are religious about MTA choice, I'd
> > suspect that a large proportion of people who run an MTA on Fedora are
> > probably already swapping it
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 14:43 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Is it OK to use 'git rebase -i' to compress my mistakes together into
> a single working Fedora git commit? (Provided I don't push things in
> between or otherwise try to rewrite public history)
Yes.
> I'm a bit confused by whether '
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 08:45 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 23:06 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > BOOTUP
> > - System boots successfully to GUI, when configured.
> > - System boots successfully to text mode, when configured.
> > - System properly handles being passed [1-5],
I don't have time for it, and I think it's fundamentally misguided. If
someone else feels like owning it, go wild.
This will probably also require access to the upstream repo, so, do
speak up if you take it so we can sort that out.
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On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 01:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 08/26/2010 01:22 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > I don't have time for it, and I think it's fundamentally misguided. If
> > someone else feels like owning it, go wild.
> >
> > This will probably also re
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:59 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Jackson wrote:
> > Static configuration should be something you can do from the dynamic
> > configuration tool. gnome-display-properties should have a "set as
> > default" button.
>
> Uh…
> 1
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 15:59 -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:59 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >> Adam Jackson wrote:
> >> > Static configuration should be something you can do from th
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 22:13 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> (Is it actually impossible for the vesa driver to work after
> KMS has kicked in, btw, or is it just something that doesn't work at
> present?)
Right now, it may work or it may not. Typically the vesa bios assumes
it's the only thing th
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 20:58 -0700, Carl Byington wrote:
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> I have a package (ghemical) which requires a courier 12 font for use in
> its xwindow gui. I clearly need some dependency that will drag in
>
> xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi
> or
> xorg
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 13:42 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
> meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
> irc.freenode.net.
Apologies, I won't be able to make this, I'll be on a plane headed to
France for XDS.
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On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 22:21 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
> This here sounds strange:
> | The update rate for any given release should drop off over time,
> | approaching zero near release end-of-life; since updates are primarily
> | bugfixes, fewer and fewer should be needed over time.
>
> This essent
On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 08:39 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 04:45:30PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 22:21 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
> > > This here sounds strange:
> > > | The update rate for any given release should drop off ove
On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 12:18 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> On 22.09.2010 22:45, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > Again: if we kept updating everything to the very latest thing all the
> > time, why even bother doing releases. Everyone would just run rawhide.
> > Right?
>
> N
On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 15:13 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:48:34AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
>
> > Say you ship with 50 bugs in a package. As you update it through the
> > lifetime of a release, that number should decrease more or less
> > monot
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 11:46 -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote:
> I don't blanket label everything with open code as "free software".
> Some stuff bundles things which make it non-free. Code open-ness !=
> free. You can call Firefox open source if you want, but it's not free
> software.
You certainly hav
On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 15:21 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 09:51:41AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > I would like to see you create a Fedora Remix spin with this change to
> > illustrate the benefits. That way we can evaluate feasibility and
> > overall value add before w
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 01:39 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Er, really? I don't see where I offered any insult or un-excellent-ness.
> > I just meant it as a vaguely humorous way of wondering why Kevin was
> > replying to an email I sent over a week ago in a discussion which
We've been carrying a patch to libOSMesa for far too long now to fix the
soname at .6, since there was no actual ABI change between .6 and .7.
I'm tired of porting the patch so it'll be libOSMesa.so.7 in the next
Mesa build in F15.
The only affected packages seem to be vtk and paraview, so I'll ki
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:07 -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
> BTW, it's annoying that rpm allows only 1 %files -f.
http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.8.0
%files now accepts multiple filelists through -f (ticket #70,
RhBug:475359)
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On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 12:12 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> Please fix https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635865 while you're at
> it, or paraview won't build. Thanks!
Done (upstream, even), thanks!
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On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 11:33 -0400, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> On 11/01/2010 09:12 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > I am planning to push libnotify 0.7.0 into rawhide by the end of this
> > week; this is going to be a little painful, since there are some api
> > changes that will require minor adjus
On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 12:11 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> As far as I can tell, none of the callers to pynotify.init() pass any
> named arguments, so nothing should notice the lack of attach=. I only
> searched for explicit calls to pynotify.init, if someone's doing like
>
>
On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 14:30 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
> meeting tomorrow at 18:30UTC (2:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
> irc.freenode.net.
>
> NOTE: Matthew Garrett, Steven Parrish, Bill Nottingham and Matthias Clasen
> are all
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 19:58 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 02:48:12PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
> > Basically summarizes the situation, and as far as I know nothing has
> > changed ... with default compilation options, getting callgraph
> > profiling on x86_64 really requires
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 16:57 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Maybe it it is an idea to build a whitelist for machines which do
> have working ACPI lid support? I realize maintaining such a list is
> a pain, but this way people who care and are lucky enough to have actually
> working hardware can at l
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 07:30 +0200, Johannes Lips wrote:
> I recently found that startup-notification is quite old in fedora and
> filed a bug to update to the recent upstream version. [1]
> So far I didn't get any feedback and would like to ask if someone of
> those [2] who also have commit on t
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 17:49 +, JB wrote:
> I am just suggesting how the devs can reach their audience and communicate
> with them for a mutual benefit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_grandmother_to_suck_eggs
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On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 11:11 +, JB wrote:
> My suggestion is that you keep both init systems, SysV/LSB and systemd,
> as separate offerings out of many, and forever so.
We'll take that under advisement.
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On 7/25/11 8:31 AM, Roman Rakus wrote:
> On 07/25/2011 04:38 AM, W. Michael Petullo wrote:
>> Is anyone who is a grubby contributor interested in adding these features
>> to grubby to support the XenPvopsDom0 feature? I've provided a patch in
>> bug #658387.
>>
> Is it possible to use augeas [1]? T
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 11:48 -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
> Trying to help packaging dmtcp. There are 2 shared libs installed. They are
> stripped by the rpm install, and then fail when attempting to dlopen them (or
> 1
> of them).
>
> 1. Is that normal behaviour?
No, the strip performed by the
On 8/1/11 10:55 AM, John Reiser wrote:
> On 07/31/2011 01:37 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:22 PM, John Reiser wrote:
>>> The nightly build "mash" for Fedora-16 Branched should go first,
>>> before Rawhide, on a few days per week ...
>
>> You should open a ticket with rel-eng t
On 8/3/11 8:58 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote:
> I have a shiny new laptop (HP Pavilion dm4) with the Sandy Bridge video (HD
> 3000). Installing F15 or the nightly F16 build causes a blank screen during
> the
> install. Installing/running basic video works but is annoying.
>
> I have spent a few days poki
On 8/3/11 9:48 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> We would love to build all PCI drivers for all platforms if the drivers
> compiled for all secondary arches :-) See bug 713609 as an example.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713609
I would debug this problem on an arm builder, if I could
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
Links to all tickets below can be found at:
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9
= Followups =
#topic #563 suggested policy: all daemons must s
tl;dr version: If you have a security-sensitive package, and wish to
enable some gcc-level hardening features with a modest performance
impact, you will soon be able to enable them (nearly) automagically by
rebuilding with this line in your spec file:
%define _hardened_build 1
Now for the deta
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tl;dr version: If you have a security-sensitive package, and wish to
enable some gcc-level hardening features with a modest performance
impact, you will soon be able to enable them (nearly) automagically by
rebuilding with this line in your spec file:
%define _hardened_build 1
Now for the deta
On 8/8/11 3:52 PM, Till Maas wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 12:23:43PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
>
>> %define _hardened_build 1
>
> just wondering: Is %define really correct here or does it need to be
> %global?
I've been using %define out of habit, but either on
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 08:47 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
> My main concern is that the macro will be misapplied and overall performance
> will take a hit.
That's a valid concern, but any hardened build would have this problem.
I'm happy to talk about how the performance impact can be mitigated, but
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 10:44 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> See attached.
Looks fine to me. The only reason I have to dislike it is the
temptation for people to inspect build logs as a proof of what flags a
package was built with (since the only sane thing is to store that in
the binary itself, whi
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 18:56 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:44:31 +0200, Colin Walters wrote:
> > the goal being that they see warnings more easily.
>
> You should make -Werror default instead, by compiling packages without -Werror
> various bugs creep in which would be much
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 19:19 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:14:27 +0200, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > If you're volunteering to fix and/or paper over all the spurious
> > warnings gcc and glibc introduce with every phase of the moon, then
> > sure
On 8/12/11 12:28 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 05:25:17PM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
>
>> Third party code built against -devel and depending only on the SONAME is
>> fine
>> in this situation as it sticks to the published ABI. In-tree code that plays
>> with non-ABI symbo
On 8/13/11 2:23 PM, Jim Meyering wrote:
> I'd start with -O2 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 and something like
> this subset of -Wall:
>
>-Warray-bounds
>-Wchar-subscripts
>-Wsequence-point
gcc now has:
-Werror=
Make the specified warning into an error. The specifier for a
war
On 8/17/11 5:51 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Due to the brown paperbag bug of rpm-4.9.1 causing unwanted trailing
> slashes on directories (with various nasty side-effects), the following
> packages in F16 require rebuilding. The sooner the better to stop
> spreading the damage but at a
On 8/17/11 10:41 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> for i in $(cat panu-list) ; do
> j=$(koji -q latest-pkg f16-updates-testing $(rpmname $i) | \
> awk '{ print $1 }')
> rpmdev-vercmp $i $j>& /dev/null
> [ $? == 12 ]&& echo $j
&
On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 15:50 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> >
> > (aside: when sending lists of rpms like this, it sure would be nice to
> > also include the maintainer name, so I could just search for "me" and know
> > if I have an issue) ;)
On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 07:37 -0400, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote:
> On 08/17/2011 05:51 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Due to the brown paperbag bug of rpm-4.9.1 causing unwanted trailing
> > slashes on directories (with various nasty side-effects), the following
> > packages in F16 requi
On 9/1/11 5:05 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> Hmmm, turning off SMP is not realistic, as this laptop has a Core 2 Duo.
Sure it is. Boot with maxcpus=1 on the kernel command line.
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On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 09:16 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> Most of the packages I work with have very few patches so it's not all
> that difficult, but there are a couple of packages I'm working with
> that have a lot of patches and one of them has a very active upstream
> (which is a good thing!) bu
On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 10:44 +1000, Tony Breeds wrote:
> Hi All,
> On a related but different note. How hard would it be to get
> yum-builddep to take an --arch arg to that we can esily get the 32-bit
> builddeps on a 64-bit system?
Is 'setarch i686 yum-builddep foo' not enough?
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On 9/20/11 9:19 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> Currently
>> I only see mails of maintainers who plan updating the library, but the
>> rest of it pretty much depends on the maintainers of the depending
>> components rebuilding them quickly enough, and the original maintainer
>> to include them in the
On 9/20/11 10:13 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 09/20/2011 04:03 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
>> I'd like to see a rationale for jamming a soname-changing update into
>> the OS so close to a release.
> Maintainers on vacation, non-trivial changes?
>
> In my case, a maj
On 9/20/11 11:10 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> * It's not 14 days + 3 (4?) weeks before beta freeze - even if the
> library gets out of updates-testing in time, its users may not be
> rebuilt because the maintainer is on vacation.
You could have an earthquake, too.
If you're having problems rebuil
On 9/20/11 11:43 AM, Nils Philippsen wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 11:33 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
>> Of course, the accounts system _still_ doesn't have groups, five years
>> later, so provenpackager is the big hammer we have. We could get groups
>> any day now, that&
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 20:05 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> %rename cc1_options rh_cc1_options_old
>
>
>
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 20:22 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> Such packages would be broken and would fail to link without hardening
> or at least have text relocations too. Packagers shouldn't rely on
> this spec hack to fix up their packaging bugs (or upstream bugs), the hack
> should be just about
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
Links to all tickets below can be found at:
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9
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.fesco 663
#
On 10/3/11 11:43 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:34:45 +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>> I'm not sure how we can make DPI magically be correct in gazillions of
>> broken displays' EDID.
>
> If not blacklisting then whitelisting them, you have the community. This is
> X.org's task,
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On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 11:46 -0400, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote:
> Grovelling around in the F15 xorg-server sources and reviewing the Xorg
> log file on my F15 box, I see, with _modern hardware_ at least, that we
> do have the monitor geometry available from DDC or EDIC, and obviously
> it is trivia
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 21:03 +0100, Camilo Mesias wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > I am clearly going to have to explain this one more time, forever.
> > Let's see if I can't write it authoritatively once and simply answer
>
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 23:45 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> Another bigger source of slowness at boot is currently Plymouth which
> also requires synchronous settling of devices (tough it's not as bad as
> LVM in that regard though, but costs too since EDID probing is
> apparently quite slow, a
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 19:05 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 96dpi, however, is almost *never* correct, is it? So just taking a
> hardcoded number that Microsoft happened to pick a decade ago is hardly
> improving matters.
The X default used to be 72dpi. Maybe it'll be something else in the
futur
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 23:11 +0200, Benny Amorsen wrote:
> Matthew Garrett writes:
>
> > We have no technological solution for dealing with the fact that
> > applications may move from one DPI to another at runtime, and may even
> > be displaying on both displays at once.
>
> >From a technology
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 11:14 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 13:54 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > EDID does not reliably give you the size of the display.
>
> How about "EDID as it exists today". Since you're able to so beautifully
> explain
On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 21:54 +0300, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote:
> But this assumption was wrong for my system which have BIOS option
> for disabling CPU frequency scaling (SpeedStep).
>
> If SpeedStep is enabled in BIOS then kernel uses acpi-cpufreq built-in module
> but if I will disable frequ
On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 22:02 +0300, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Both ntpd and chrony can't synchronize time in VM's because of large offset.
False. From chrony.txt:
---
4.2.27 makestep
---
Normally chronyd will cause the system to gradually correct any time
offset, by slowing
On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 20:35 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> Except that Fedora _has_ been glibc's development platform for as long
> as I can remember. The Fedora project might not think so, but it's
> exactly what upstream glibc does.
Indeed, this has been the case since it was still called Red Hat
On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 13:39 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> It also makes system scripts more fragile; for example, if somebody
> installs (from source) a different version of python in /usr/local/bin,
> all RPM-installed scripts in /usr/bin (that may not even work with that
> version) will now use th
On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 10:10 -0400, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote:
> HekaFS runs a daemon from init. It's a Bottle (python-based) http server.
>
> In order to work on, e.g. RHEL6 in addition to Fedora, the old init
> script has:
> ...
> vercmd="from distutils.sysconfig import get_python_lib; print
> ge
On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 09:14 -0600, Jerry James wrote:
> I have 2 new packages. The first one, flocq, has been in F16 testing
> for 5 days. It is needed to build the second one, gappalib-coq. I go
> to the BuildRoot override page to submit an override for flocq. After
> typing in flocq, it offer
As of tomorrow's rawhide [1], gnome-session will no longer treat
llvmpipe as an unsupported driver. This means gnome-shell will run even
on hardware without a native 3D driver, including virt guests.
There are probably bugs! I've done some quick tests on the hardware I
have handy and in kvm, and
On 10/26/11 12:32 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Richard W.M. Jones
> wrote:
>> https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/682
>
> I've made another attempt to reach out the the glibc maintainer
> directly again this morning to hopefully answer the questions in that
> ti
On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 15:00 +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
> Hi,
>
> just tried -ffunction-sections -Wl,--gc-sections on F15 xulrunner and got
> libxul.so 24947928 -> 23631640 (5.28% gain) and it still works.
>
> ld.gold --icf is a different optimization but that one requires gold.
>
> Are there so
There are two major package classes in Fedora that provide graphics
drivers: xorg-x11-drv-*, and mesa-dri-drivers-*.
In F15, mesa-dri-drivers now only includes drivers with DRI2 support
(radeon, nvidia, intel) and the software renderer; if you want all the
older drivers you have to install mesa-dr
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 09:34 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 12:12 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
>
> > And input is even briefer (evdev, synaptics, wacom, vmmouse). I'd like
> > to chop the -drivers metapackage down to just this set, and either make
&
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 12:23 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Adam Jackson (a...@redhat.com) said:
> > So that's the rough plan. Comments appreciated if I'm overlooking
> > anything.
>
> The question would be how we ensure that these additional drivers are in
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 13:48 -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 13:38 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > But then, if we had _that_, comps could grow a fourth class for
> > "as-needed" and we'd just list all driver packages there, including cups
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 14:16 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> While I don't care about accelerated X support, this hardware darned
> well better continue working in an "it works" 2D display mode. VESA or
> whatever is fine.
You'll notice I included vesa in the standard list. Not that vesa works
ver
On 4/13/11 5:14 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote:
> On 04/12/2011 06:12 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
>> ast, ati, cirrus, fbdev, geode, intel, mga, nouveau, openchrome,
>> qxl, sis/xgi, vesa, vmware
>
> Would this affect the way KVM and specifically qemu-kvm in it's default
> set
On 4/13/11 9:09 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> ... should we work on making qemu/kvm default to something more modern/sane?
> (qxl, vmware?) Does it not end up mattering (or do we need cirrus for
> legacy OS support)?
It ends up being a function of the guest OS - vmware's Windows driver
will refus
On 4/13/11 11:02 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote:
> On 04/13/2011 03:10 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
>> On 4/13/11 9:09 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>>
>>> ... should we work on making qemu/kvm default to something more
>>> modern/sane?
>>> (qxl, vmware?) Does it not
On 4/13/11 10:25 AM, Matej Cepl wrote:
> Dne 12.4.2011 18:12, Adam Jackson napsal(a):
>> negative.) The list of video drivers that see any actual use is
>> probably something like:
>>
>> ast, ati, cirrus, fbdev, geode, intel, mga, nouveau, openchrome,
>>
On 4/12/11 11:58 PM, John Reiser wrote:
> On 04/12/2011 09:12 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
>> Basically all of this hardware is, ahem, inept. The most featureful
>> device supported by these drivers would be the MGA G550, which just
>> barely manages to do DirectX 7 (comparabl
On 4/13/11 5:43 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Will F16 finally ship the llvmpipe as the default software renderer?
If by F16, you mean F15, then yes.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Xorg
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