Re: RFC: Additional checkpoint for major toolchain updates before mass rebuild

2025-01-28 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 28. 01. 25 v 18:53 Siddhesh Poyarekar napsal(a): On 2025-01-28 05:19, Vít Ondruch wrote: 4) Having everything rebuild by GCC 15? That on itself is not a goal IMHO. Making sure everything works with GCC 15 is good goal, but that is problem for developers, not for users (we can argue if ther

Re: RFC: Additional checkpoint for major toolchain updates before mass rebuild

2025-01-28 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 28. 01. 25 v 19:18 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 11:19:02AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: I think we should stop and think again why we do mass rebuilds and why we do them prior release. "The goal is to rebuild every single Fedora package, regardless of content, before the Fedo

Re: RFC: Additional checkpoint for major toolchain updates before mass rebuild

2025-01-28 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 28. 01. 25 v 19:32 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 28. 01. 25 v 19:18 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 11:19:02AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: I think we should stop and think again why we do mass rebuilds and why we do them prior release. "The goal is to rebuild every single Fedora

Re: RFC: Additional checkpoint for major toolchain updates before mass rebuild

2025-01-28 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 28. 01. 25 v 19:18 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 11:19:02AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: I think we should stop and think again why we do mass rebuilds and why we do them prior release. "The goal is to rebuild every single Fedora package, regardless of content, before the Fedo

Re: RFC: Additional checkpoint for major toolchain updates before mass rebuild

2025-01-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 11:19:02AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > I think we should stop and think again why we do mass rebuilds and why we do > them prior release. "The goal is to rebuild every single Fedora package, > regardless of content, before the Fedora 41 Change Deadline." [1] is not > very el

Re: RFC: Additional checkpoint for major toolchain updates before mass rebuild

2025-01-28 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 11:19:02AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > I think we should stop and think again why we do mass rebuilds and why we do > them prior release. "The goal is to rebuild every single Fedora package, > regardless of content, before the Fedora 41 Change Deadline." [1] is not > very el

Orphaning 3 apache-commons packages

2025-01-28 Thread Jerry James
I have orphaned the following: - apache-commons-configuration - apache-commons-jexl - apache-commons-vfs They were used by maven-doxia, but with the maven-doxia*/maven-reporting* updates I just submitted to Rawhide, they no longer are. If my repoquery usage is correct, then the first two have no

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Deprecate Zezere Provisioning Server (IoT) (self-contained)

2025-01-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 10:41:15PM +, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce wrote: > == Detailed Description == > Currently, Fedora IoT users can add an SSH key to the root user > account using the Zezere provisioning tool. While convenient for most > use cases, users have given feedback that this

Re: GCC defined(__cplusplus) one rawhide

2025-01-28 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 07:31:35PM +, Sérgio Basto via devel wrote: > I just want check, if I'm thinking correctly before submitting a fix in > gtest package > > The problem is on Rawhide I have this warning that make other packages > fail to build [1] > > gtest source [2] source get __cplu

Re: RFC: Additional checkpoint for major toolchain updates before mass rebuild

2025-01-28 Thread Karolina Surma
Hi, On 1/27/25 23:16, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: Like Fabio mentioned, we already do this and tend to have that information but don't communicate until we have determined that it is relevant and as it happened this time around, it was too late.  The main reason why we hold on to the informati

Re: RFC: Additional checkpoint for major toolchain updates before mass rebuild

2025-01-28 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 28. 01. 25 v 11:33 Daniel P. Berrangé napsal(a): On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 11:19:02AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: I think we should stop and think again why we do mass rebuilds and why we do them prior release. "The goal is to rebuild every single Fedora package, regardless of content, before t

Re: RFC: Additional checkpoint for major toolchain updates before mass rebuild

2025-01-28 Thread Vít Ondruch
I think we should stop and think again why we do mass rebuilds and why we do them prior release. "The goal is to rebuild every single Fedora package, regardless of content, before the Fedora 41 Change Deadline." [1] is not very elaborated and I was not able to find anything better. These are m

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20250128.n.0 changes

2025-01-28 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
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Re: RFC: Additional checkpoint for major toolchain updates before mass rebuild

2025-01-28 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On 2025-01-28 13:53, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 28. 01. 25 v 18:53 Siddhesh Poyarekar napsal(a): On 2025-01-28 05:19, Vít Ondruch wrote: 4) Having everything rebuild by GCC 15? That on itself is not a goal IMHO. Making sure everything works with GCC 15 is good goal, but that is problem for develop

Re: GCC __cplusplus definition on rawhide and ciso646

2025-01-28 Thread Sérgio Basto via devel
On Tue, 2025-01-28 at 10:06 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 07:31:35PM +, Sérgio Basto via devel > wrote: > > I just want check, if I'm thinking correctly before submitting a > > fix in > > gtest package > > > > The problem is on Rawhide I have this warning that make oth

lazy preemption in kernel 6.13

2025-01-28 Thread Chris Murphy
I'm a little confused about this new type of preemption. "The long road to lazy preemption" [1] article says: "The lazy mode will occupy a place between PREEMPT_NONE and PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY, replacing both of them." Whereas Linux 6.13 change log [2] says: "lazy preemption" mode that aims to be a

Re: GCC __cplusplus definition on rawhide and ciso646

2025-01-28 Thread Ben Beasley
I think that -Werror makes sense for upstream development CI with controlled dependencies and toolchains, but it is too strict and brittle for downstream packaging, because insignificant warnings from new toolchain or dependency versions tend to cause frequent unnecessary breakage. The more com

Re: HEADS UP: cgnslib-4.5.0 landing in rawhide

2025-01-28 Thread Sandro Mani
Hi I've merged the side tag. Only Paraview is currently FTBFS (pre-existing, since the mass rebuild), vtk and gmsh otoh have been successfully rebuilt. Thanks Sandro On 24.01.25 10:30, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi I'll be updating to cgnslib-4.5.0 in rawhide, building to the f42-build-side-1042

Re: maven-doxia* and maven-reporting* updates

2025-01-28 Thread Jerry James
On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 5:22 PM Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > I built the whole set of packages myself in the right order, in 5 phases > as described here > https://mizdebsk.fedorapeople.org/review/l10n-maven-plugin/plan.html > All packages built fine in rawhide. > Then I proceed to review the new pac

Re: Heads-up: Go 1.24 causing widespread FTBFS in F42

2025-01-28 Thread Dave Dykstra via devel
FYI At least one of those FTBS packages is failing in C code because of a change to compile with -std=c23, not a golang issue. Dave On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 07:24:11AM +0100, Mikel Olasagasti via golang wrote: > Hi, > > This is a heads-up regarding the impact of Go 1.24, now available in > Fedora

Re: RFC: Additional checkpoint for major toolchain updates before mass rebuild

2025-01-28 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On 2025-01-28 05:19, Vít Ondruch wrote: 4) Having everything rebuild by GCC 15? That on itself is not a goal IMHO. Making sure everything works with GCC 15 is good goal, but that is problem for developers, not for users (we can argue if there are CVEs, this might become problem, but this is not

Re: RFC: Additional checkpoint for major toolchain updates before mass rebuild

2025-01-28 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On 2025-01-28 06:00, Vít Ondruch wrote: This is debatable. Realistically, failure due to GCC does not need to be fixed everywhere until really needed. It is good to have it fixed in Rawhide to be ready for backport when needed. Build failures don't *have* to be fixed right away, but in practic

Re: RFC: Additional checkpoint for major toolchain updates before mass rebuild

2025-01-28 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On 2025-01-28 04:08, Karolina Surma wrote: Regarding the gcc prebuild: I'd personally prefer to deal with a report that may end up redirected to the gcc team or closed as not a bug weeks in advance than being surprised by the build failure when an update lands in Rawhide. Thank you, that's us

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2025-01-28)

2025-01-28 Thread Fabio Alessandro Locati via devel
Before the meeting we had one more voted change in the ticket: #3338 Change: Deprecation of STI Tests https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3338 APPROVED (+5, 0, 0) During the meeting we also voted on: #3293 Change: Dropping of cert.pem file https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3293 APPROVED for F43 (+6, 0, -0

Fedora eln compose report: 20250129.n.0 changes

2025-01-28 Thread Fedora ELN Report
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