Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 73.2

I'd submitted the side-tag for merging to f39 base: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-18495e9c7c There are a bunch of packages missing, these will be handled after the side merge. If I didn't miss anything, all of the failures were FTBFS already. Since we have libicu72 in the bas

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 73.2

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 8:36 AM Mamoru TASAKA wrote: > I am not the maintainer of brltty, but just adding "BR: gcc" makes > brltty compile on all arches (against f39): > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=103255038 > > I am not sure to what side-tag I should build brltty for now.

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 73.2

Frantisek Zatloukal wrote on 2023/07/12 17:18: On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 8:36 AM Mamoru TASAKA wrote: I am not the maintainer of brltty, but just adding "BR: gcc" makes brltty compile on all arches (against f39): https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=103255038 I am not sure to wha

gimp-help license corrected

Hi, gimp-help license was changed from GFDL and GPLv2+ to GFDL-1.2-invariants-only as GPLv2+ is license used for scripts used during build time only and those scripts are not part of final language/help packages. Best regards Josef Ridky Senior Software Engineer Core Services Team Red Hat Czech,

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230712.n.0 changes

OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20230711.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20230712.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:7 Dropped images: 3 Added packages: 13 Dropped packages:2 Upgraded packages: 119 Downgraded packages: 1 Size of added packages: 3.89 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 10:06 PM Mikel Olasagasti wrote: > (snip) > > > golang-github-moby-spdystreamgo-sig, mikelo2 > > Builds fine in Koschei and no BZ > > > golang-github-openapi-validate alexsaezm, go-sig > > Builds fine in Koschei and no BZ This is usually an indicati

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

Hi, On Tuesday, 2023-07-11 08:17:07 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > I think what happens is: somebody (anybody) can report a post, if it gets > enough reports it gets proactively hidden before a moderator can review it. > Do our moderators eventually review such posts to ensure they're truly >

OCaml binary stripping (was: Re: OCaml 5 again)

During the OCaml 5 rebuild I found there's a generic problem on s390x & ppc64le (ie. the bytecode-only architectures) involving stripping of OCaml binaries. A good example is supermin on s390x: # uname -a Linux e132ed8a0a9b4411b210e43e253581f0 6.4.0-59.fc39.s390x #1 SMP Mon Jun 26 11:55:15 U

Re: Immutable Variants & Persistence

On 7/11/23 19:23, Jonathan Steffan wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 10:47 AM Jonathan Steffan > mailto:jonathanstef...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > 2. All userspace is in RAM > > > For example, let's install `dnf install tuxpuck`. I'd expect `tuxpuck` > to be installed and playable. I wouldn't have

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

Hau idatzi du Fabio Valentini (decatho...@gmail.com) erabiltzaileak (2023 uzt. 12(a), az. (11:53)): > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 10:06 PM Mikel Olasagasti > wrote: > > > > (snip) > > > > > > golang-github-moby-spdystreamgo-sig, mikelo2 > > > > Builds fine in Koschei and no BZ > > > > >

Re: Immutable Variants & Persistence

On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 7:24 PM Jonathan Steffan wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 10:47 AM Jonathan Steffan > wrote: >> >> 2. All userspace is in RAM > > > For example, let's install `dnf install tuxpuck`. I'd expect `tuxpuck` to be > installed and playable. I wouldn't have to reboot after la

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 73.2

FYI, postponing this to tomorrow, qt6 packages are unbuildable in rawhide (unrelated to this change). On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 10:33 AM Mamoru TASAKA wrote: > Frantisek Zatloukal wrote on 2023/07/12 17:18: > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 8:36 AM Mamoru TASAKA > > > wrote: > > > >> I am not the maint

Re: FYI OCaml 5.0 rebuild is under way

On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 10:05:10PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Jerry James & I are doing a rebuild of all OCaml packages. This is mostly complete now, and I have submitted an update: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-8d5b08b005 I managed to build 175 packages out 186. T

Re: OCaml binary stripping (was: Re: OCaml 5 again)

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 4:38 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > During the OCaml 5 rebuild I found there's a generic problem on s390x > & ppc64le (ie. the bytecode-only architectures) involving stripping of > OCaml binaries. A good example is supermin on s390x: > > # uname -a > Linux e132ed8a0a9b

[Test-Announce] Kernel 6.4.3 is now available for testing in koji

Hey Folks, We are currently running the Fedora Kernel Test Week before we rebase 6.4. There is a new build 6.4.3 is fresh and you can now provide feedback! Thanks a lot to all for making the test weeks so successful. The links for test weeks can be found here[0]. Results can be submitted here[1] a

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

Matt has started a poll with regards to the community's preferences about the topic: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/straw-poll-on-your-preferences-about-opt-in-opt-out-for-possible-data-collection/85675/2 On 7/12/23 12:37, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi, On Tuesday, 2023-07-11 08:17:07 -0500,

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

Matt has started a poll with regards to the community's preferences about the topic: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/straw-poll-on-your-preferences-about-opt-in-opt-out-for-possible-data-collection/85675/2 On 7/12/23 12:37, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi, On Tuesday, 2023-07-11 08:17:07 -050

What is this update waiting on?

https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-8d5b08b005 I don't understand what this update is waiting on / why it cannot go to Fedora immediately. I waived the tests. There are still apparently 5 tests "running", but clicking through to the Automated Tests tab shows only 4. There's no

Re: What is this update waiting on?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 6:26 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-8d5b08b005 > > I don't understand what this update is waiting on / why it cannot go > to Fedora immediately. > > I waived the tests. > > There are still apparently 5 tests "running",

Re: FYI OCaml 5.0 rebuild is under way

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 9:37 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > - ocaml-atd > >Fails to build because it requires Python3 flake8 which is >uninstallable at the moment. It is used for testing only, so we can disable the python tests for now to get this to build. > - ocaml-camlp5 > >Wait

Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2023-07-12

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-07-12/fedora_coreos_meeting.2023-07-12-16.30.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-07-12/fedora_coreos_meeting.2023-07-12-16.30.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023

Re: FYI OCaml 5.0 rebuild is under way

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 10:48:46AM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 9:37 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > - ocaml-atd > > > >Fails to build because it requires Python3 flake8 which is > >uninstallable at the moment. > > It is used for testing only, so we can disable th

Re: FYI OCaml 5.0 rebuild is under way

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 11:00 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > - swig > > > > > >This also should work but does not. It has a very opaque failures > > >in the test suite. I'm going to try to reproduce this one locally. > > > > This is the failure: > > > > checking python testcase lang

Re: What is this update waiting on?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 6:37 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 6:26 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-8d5b08b005 > > > > I don't understand what this update is waiting on / why it cannot go > > to Fedora immediately. >

Re: What is this update waiting on?

On Wed, 2023-07-12 at 18:37 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 6:26 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-8d5b08b005 > > > > I don't understand what this update is waiting on / why it cannot go > > to Fedora immediately

Re: OCaml binary stripping (was: Re: OCaml 5 again)

Hi, On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 09:54:49AM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 4:38 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > During the OCaml 5 rebuild I found there's a generic problem on s390x > > & ppc64le (ie. the bytecode-only architectures) involving stripping of > > OCaml binaries. [..

Re: FYI OCaml 5.0 rebuild is under way

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 11:04 AM Jerry James wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 11:00 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > My test build of the swig package, which succeeded, was done with > > > python 3.11. I suspect that this is python 3.12 breakage. The OCaml > > > testsuite passed, so this fail

Re: FYI OCaml 5.0 rebuild is under way

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 06:00:02PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 10:48:46AM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 9:37 AM Richard W.M. Jones > > wrote: > > > - ocaml-atd > > > > > >Fails to build because it requires Python3 flake8 which is > > >

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

Unfortunately this might just be what happens. I know that I would personally always opt out on principle, and would vote for opt-in or dropping the proposal. I am under the impression that most Fedora users are in the same boat as me. ___ devel mailin

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

Agreed 100%. Dark patterning or similar isn't the way to go. If telemetry is included, it should be opt-in with very clear explanation of why opt-ing in is important and beneficial. Opt-out and "by consent" are mutually exclusive in most circumstances. ___

Re: What is this update waiting on?

https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-129c8286a0 This one seems a bit different. There seem to be no tests running. The test gating status is "ignored" (I didn't do that). And otherwise it seems to be doing nothing. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://p

Re: What is this update waiting on?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 10:46 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-129c8286a0 > > This one seems a bit different. There seem to be no tests running. > The test gating status is "ignored" (I didn't do that). And otherwise > it seems to be doing no

Re: What is this update waiting on?

On Wed, 2023-07-12 at 21:45 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-129c8286a0 > > This one seems a bit different. There seem to be no tests running. > The test gating status is "ignored" (I didn't do that). And otherwise > it seems to be doing noth

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

+1 Yes this has been mentioned many times on the thread. You can't say the user has consented but also have it opt-out. Saying that opt-in data isn't useful because most users won't opt-in is implying the desire of a dark pattern to encourage more data collection. ___

Re: OCaml binary stripping (was: Re: OCaml 5 again)

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 09:21:40PM +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 09:54:49AM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 4:38 AM Richard W.M. Jones > > wrote: > > > During the OCaml 5 rebuild I found there's a generic problem on s390x > > > & ppc64le (ie.

Re: OCaml binary stripping (was: Re: OCaml 5 again)

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 3:34 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > I looked through the section names with objdump -h and none of them > looked unusual. However I think in the past when we analyzed this we > found it was doing something really crazy, like actually appending the > bytecode to the file (i

Re: What is this update waiting on?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 01:57:16PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2023-07-12 at 21:45 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-129c8286a0 > > > > This one seems a bit different. There seem to be no tests running. > > The test gating status

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

SUSE has also jumped in to say they will provide an alternative, but compatible Linux to RH. Leslie Satenstein On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 06:49:38 a.m. GMT-4, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Oracle has (finally – the community projects Rocky and Alma were much quicker to react

Re: What is this update waiting on?

On Wed, 2023-07-12 at 15:18 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 01:57:16PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2023-07-12 at 21:45 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-129c8286a0 > > > > > > This one seems a bit different.

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

On 7/6/23 21:17, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Thu, Jul 6 2023 at 07:42:47 PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour > wrote: >> Then make the metrics be neither opt-in nor opt-out. Have >> “Enable telemetry (y/n)?” be a mandatory question in the >> installer, >> which the user must answer. > > The problem

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

On 7/6/23 12:10, Aoife Moloney wrote: > Important process note: we are experimenting with using Fedora > Discussion as part of the Changes process. Change announcements (like > the one you are reading right now) will still be sent to the > devel-announce mailing list, but the conversation about eac

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Clean Systemd-boot installs (Self-Contained_

Hi, Thanks for looking at this, and sorry about the delay I was on PTO for a few days. On 6/28/23 09:15, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 12:24:04PM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote: But, IMHO the largest change is moving the boot kernel/initrd to the ESP, rather than the use of s

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 73.2

Hi, Le 12/07/2023 à 10:15, Frantisek Zatloukal a écrit : I'd submitted the side-tag for merging to f39 base: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-18495e9c7c There are a bunch of packages missing, I notice mongo