Fedora-Cloud-33-20210426.0 compose check report

2021-04-26 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64), 1/7 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-33-20210425.0): ID: 870083 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

FYI: F32 Calf packages seem to be outdated

2021-04-26 Thread Marius Schwarz
Hi, Calf packages seem to need some attention:  Problem 1: package calf-0.90.3-6.fc32.x86_64 requires libfluidsynth.so.1()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed   - cannot install both fluidsynth-libs-2.1.8-3.fc32.x86_64 and fluidsynth-libs-1.1.11-7.fc32.x86_64   - cannot install

Next Open NeuroFedora Meeting: 1300 UTC on Monday, 26th April (Today)

2021-04-26 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello everyone, Please join us at the next Open NeuroFedora team meeting on Monday 26th April (today!) at 1300UTC in #fedora-neuro on IRC (Freenode). The meeting is a public meeting, and open for everyone to attend. You can join us over: IRC: https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#fedora-neuro

fatal error: drm.h: No such file or directory

2021-04-26 Thread Martin Gansser
Hi, when compiling [1] vdr-mpv on fc34, i get this error message: /usr/include/xf86drmMode.h:43:10: fatal error: drm.h: No such file or directory I already opened a buzilla ticket [2] but still no response. I can be solve this error by changing line 43 in /usr/include/xf86drmMode.h: #include t

Re: fatal error: drm.h: No such file or directory

2021-04-26 Thread Mamoru TASAKA
Martin Gansser wrote on 2021/04/26 17:37: Hi, when compiling [1] vdr-mpv on fc34, i get this error message: /usr/include/xf86drmMode.h:43:10: fatal error: drm.h: No such file or directory I already opened a buzilla ticket [2] but still no response. I can be solve this error by changing line 43

Re: FYI: F32 Calf packages seem to be outdated

2021-04-26 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Monday, 26 April 2021 at 10:17, Marius Schwarz wrote: > Hi, > > Calf packages seem to need some attention: Opening a bugzilla ticket (or checking if one is open already) is much better than complaining here. If maintainer is not responding to bugzilla, perhaps the non-responsive maintainer pro

Re: fatal error: drm.h: No such file or directory

2021-04-26 Thread Martin Gansser
Thanks a lot for this hint and solution. Regards Martin ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code

Fedora-Cloud-32-20210426.0 compose check report

2021-04-26 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64), 1/7 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-32-20210425.0): ID: 870153 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Heads-up: RPM 4.17 alpha coming to rawhide near you

2021-04-26 Thread Panu Matilainen
It's spring, it's raining sleet where I live, and it's also the season for new rpm in rawhide. As per https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RPM-4.17. The changes to the macro subsystem internals have been quite large, and while it's supposed to be backwards compatible with changes this big i

Re: F35 Change: Package information on ELF objects (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Luca Boccassi
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 8:09 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > The new metadata guarantees that the ELF data churns, though. For > example, if I bump the Release in a spec file for something unrelated > to the build, all the ELF blobs change. The current state means that > this is deduplicated

Re: F35 Change: CompilerPolicy Change (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 24. 04. 21 v 11:10 Kevin Kofler via devel napsal(a): Tom Stellard wrote: This change was never rejected. It become stalled waiting for the change owners to address some feedback from FESCo. The feedback has been addressed now, which is why it was resubmitted. Ah, then I hereby urge FESCo

Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.17 alpha coming to rawhide near you

2021-04-26 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 4/26/21 1:36 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: It's spring, it's raining sleet where I live, and it's also the season for new rpm in rawhide. As per https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RPM-4.17. The changes to the macro subsystem internals have been quite large, and while it's supposed to be b

Re: F35 Change: CompilerPolicy Change (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 12:35:34PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 12:32 PM Tom Stellard wrote: > > > The proposed changes[1] to the packaging guidelines does require packagers > > document their reasons in bugzilla, but that's it. > > > At the risk of getting too bikesheddy, w

Re: F35 Change: CompilerPolicy Change (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 07:24:28PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 23.04.2021 17:18, Ben Cotton wrote: > >The goal is to give the packager the ability to use their own > >technical judgement to choose the best compiler. > > +1 for this change. Same here. I like the no-nonsense policy

Re: FYI: F32 Calf packages seem to be outdated

2021-04-26 Thread Gwyn Ciesla via devel
Good thing the maintainer reads -devel or she'd have missed this. :) Looks like fluidsynth got updated and calf needs a rebuild. I'll get that out. --  Gwyn Ciesla she/her/hers   in your fear, seek only peace  in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie

Re: [Test-Announce] 2021-04-26 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2021-04-26 Thread Luna Jernberg
Will attend the meeting today ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelin

Re: F35 Change: CompilerPolicy Change (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Vít Ondruch wrote: > Kevin, I'd love to support your stance and use GCC. However, there are > reasons why we will need to consider Clang for e.g. Ruby: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1721553 > > And the reason is not even that upstream favors Clang. The situation is > unfortunate

fwupd-efi package review

2021-04-26 Thread Richard Hughes
Hi all, I'm wanting to update the fwupd package in Fedora rawhide to the recently released 1.6.0, but this release splits out the EFI binary to a new source package. I've created https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1953508 for the new package review process and would appreciate a reviewer

Gnome BZ untouched for years #1414539

2021-04-26 Thread Michal Schorm
How many more years can I expect it will take to resolve or at least seriously examine this following BZ? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1414539 Does the maintainer of the utility care ? Does he check the BZ tickets ? Does the gnome-sig triage the BZs against gnome components at leas

Re: Gnome BZ untouched for years #1414539

2021-04-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:38 AM Michal Schorm wrote: > > How many more years can I expect it will take to resolve or at least > seriously examine this following BZ? > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1414539 > > Does the maintainer of the utility care ? Does he check the BZ tickets ?

Re: Gnome BZ untouched for years #1414539

2021-04-26 Thread Qiyu Yan
在 2021-04-26星期一的 08:17 +0200,Michal Schorm写道: > How many more years can I expect it will take to resolve or at least > seriously examine this following BZ? > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1414539 Just gone through the thread and it seems to be a selinux problem. Maybe the BZ shoul

Re: Gnome BZ untouched for years #1414539

2021-04-26 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:44 AM Michal Schorm wrote: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1414539 > > Who to contact? > Who to turn onto ? > I suggest filing it upstream: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-disk-utility/-/issues -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Senior Program Manager,

Re: F35 Change: CompilerPolicy Change (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 26. 04. 21 v 16:20 Kevin Kofler via devel napsal(a): Vít Ondruch wrote: Kevin, I'd love to support your stance and use GCC. However, there are reasons why we will need to consider Clang for e.g. Ruby: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1721553 And the reason is not even that upst

Re: Dynamic preemption support in Linux 5.12 kernel

2021-04-26 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 3:31 AM Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 12:39 PM Artem Tim wrote: > > Upcoming 5.12 allow building with dynamic preemption support which > allows changing mode at boot/run-time so finally no need to rebuild or make > alternative kernel build anymore[1]. Resp

Re: F35 Change: CompilerPolicy Change (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Jeff Law
On 4/26/2021 8:20 AM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Vít Ondruch wrote: Kevin, I'd love to support your stance and use GCC. However, there are reasons why we will need to consider Clang for e.g. Ruby: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1721553 And the reason is not even that upstream

Re: F35 Change: CompilerPolicy Change (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Jeff Law
On 4/26/2021 8:00 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 07:24:28PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 23.04.2021 17:18, Ben Cotton wrote: The goal is to give the packager the ability to use their own technical judgement to choose the best compiler. +1 for this

Re: F35 Change: CompilerPolicy Change (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Jeff Law
On 4/24/2021 8:26 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Fri, Apr 23 2021 at 08:01:03 PM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: I'll be probably repeating myself, but the two compilers are known to be ABI incompatible in very important ways, none of the https://bugs.llvm.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=42439%2C1990

Re: F35 Change: CompilerPolicy Change (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 09:43:34AM -0600, Jeff Law wrote: > > On 4/26/2021 8:20 AM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Kevin, I'd love to support your stance and use GCC. However, there are > > > reasons why we will need to consider Clang for e.g. Ruby: > > > > > > https:/

Re: F35 Change: CompilerPolicy Change (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Jeff Law
On 4/24/2021 3:10 AM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Tom Stellard wrote: This change was never rejected. It become stalled waiting for the change owners to address some feedback from FESCo. The feedback has been addressed now, which is why it was resubmitted. Ah, then I hereby urge FESCo to f

Re: F35 Change: CompilerPolicy Change (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Jeff Law
On 4/26/2021 9:52 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 09:43:34AM -0600, Jeff Law wrote: On 4/26/2021 8:20 AM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Vít Ondruch wrote: Kevin, I'd love to support your stance and use GCC. However, there are reasons why we will need to consider Clang for e.g

Re: F35 Change: CompilerPolicy Change (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Fri, 2021-04-23 at 20:01 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 11:18:59AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > The Red Hat tools team believes that LLVM/Clang and GCC should be > > considered equals from > > a Fedora policy standpoint. Selection of one toolchain over the other > >

Re: F35 Change: CompilerPolicy Change (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 09:51:50AM -0600, Jeff Law wrote: > > On 4/24/2021 8:26 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 23 2021 at 08:01:03 PM +0200, Jakub Jelinek > > wrote: > > > I'll be probably repeating myself, but the two compilers are known to be > > > ABI incompatible in very importa

Re: Dynamic preemption support in Linux 5.12 kernel

2021-04-26 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 25.04.2021 20:39, Artem Tim wrote: Please provide full PREEMPT mode by default in 5.12 kernel for desktop variants. With 5.12 it is possible for user to change it without efforts if they need this. +1 for this. Significantly reduces X11 input lag in full-screen games. -- Sincerely, Vita

Re: Thoughts about packaging a standalone python-PyQt5-sip?

2021-04-26 Thread Scott Talbert
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 10:42:28PM -0500, Scott Talbert wrote: OK, I'm going to make an attempt to move python-qt5 (and its friends) to sip5. I'm planning to build everything in a copr first. Hey Scott. Did you get any further with this? Anything I

Guardrails for too-short RC-to-Go/No-Go

2021-04-26 Thread Ben Cotton
Hi everyone, In Friday's Go/No-Go meeting, we decided that having 5 hours between the completion of an RC and the start of the Go/No-Go meeting is not the ideal situation. So I got assigned the homework of starting the conversation about how to prevent this in the future. After all, if we don't st

Re: F35 Change: CompilerPolicy Change (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jeff Law: > There are cases where Clang is the better choice and other cases where > GCC is the better choice.  The upstream projects are in the best > position to make such decisions for their projects and the Fedora > maintainers are in the best position to bring that decision into > Fedora.

The Death of Java (packages)

2021-04-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
Hi everybody, Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and don't get me started on the horrid Java ecosystem. Recently I've been spending

Re: The Death of Java (packages)

2021-04-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 at 15:20, Fabio Valentini wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary > maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of > them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and > don't get me

Re: The Death of Java (packages)

2021-04-26 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 3:26 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary > maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of > them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and > don't get me started on the

Re: Dynamic preemption support in Linux 5.12 kernel

2021-04-26 Thread Justin Forbes
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 11:25 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 25.04.2021 20:39, Artem Tim wrote: > > Please provide full PREEMPT mode by default in 5.12 kernel for desktop > > variants. With 5.12 it is possible for user to change it without efforts if > > they need this. > > +1 for thi

Re: F35 Change: CompilerPolicy Change (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-04-26 Thread Tom Stellard
On 4/26/21 12:18 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: * Jeff Law: There are cases where Clang is the better choice and other cases where GCC is the better choice.  The upstream projects are in the best position to make such decisions for their projects and the Fedora maintainers are in the best position t

Re: The Death of Java (packages)

2021-04-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 09:19:44PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary > maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of > them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and > don't get me started

Re: The Death of Java (packages)

2021-04-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:26 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary > maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of > them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and > don't get

Re: The Death of Java (packages)

2021-04-26 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Mon, 2021-04-26 at 21:19 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary > maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of > them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and > don't ge

Re: Dynamic preemption support in Linux 5.12 kernel

2021-04-26 Thread Artem Tim
Good to know. I am crossing fingers 🤞 and hope you could improve current defaults and this will be upstreamed. So at least users who want PREEMPT could enable it in runtime and not need to rebuild custom kernel every time for this. ___ devel mailing lis

Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.17 alpha coming to rawhide near you (broken python-srpm-macros)

2021-04-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 04. 21 12:36, Panu Matilainen wrote: It's spring, it's raining sleet where I live, and it's also the season for new rpm in rawhide. As per https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RPM-4.17. The changes to the macro subsystem internals have been quite large, and while it's supposed to be b

Re: Dynamic preemption support in Linux 5.12 kernel

2021-04-26 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:29 PM Justin Forbes wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 11:25 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > wrote: > > > > On 25.04.2021 20:39, Artem Tim wrote: > > > Please provide full PREEMPT mode by default in 5.12 kernel for desktop > > > variants. With 5.12 it is possible for user

Re: Dynamic preemption support in Linux 5.12 kernel

2021-04-26 Thread Justin Forbes
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 5:12 PM Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:29 PM Justin Forbes wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 11:25 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > > wrote: > > > > > > On 25.04.2021 20:39, Artem Tim wrote: > > > > Please provide full PREEMPT mode by default in

Heads up: no characters visible on console in Rawhide - bug in kbd-2.4.0-3.fc35

2021-04-26 Thread Adam Williamson
It looks like, in openQA and manual VM testing at least, since kbd- 2.4.0-3.fc35 landed in Rawhide, all characters are invisible at the console. They're actually there, you just can't seem them. To work around this, downgrade to kbd-2.4.0-2.fc34 from F34. For more info see https://bugzilla.redhat.c

KDE Autostart in F34

2021-04-26 Thread Ravindra Kumar
Hi, I hope there are some KDE experts on the list who can help me debug this - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1953472. It looks like KDE in Fedora 34 is not honoring open-vm-tools autostart script in /etc/xdg/autostart/vmware-user.desktop. GNOME seems to work fine. Could you pleas

Re: Thoughts about packaging a standalone python-PyQt5-sip?

2021-04-26 Thread Rex Dieter
Scott Talbert wrote: > Yes, I got fairly far with porting all PyQt5 SIP consumers (including > calibre) to use SIPv5. I think I then got discouraged at the thought of > making a bunch of PRs and having to nag maintainers to merge them in some > sort of coordinated fashion. > > I guess - if I get

Re: KDE Autostart in F34

2021-04-26 Thread Rex Dieter
Ravindra Kumar wrote: > Hi, > > I hope there are some KDE experts on the list who can help me debug this - > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1953472. > > It looks like KDE in Fedora 34 is not honoring open-vm-tools autostart > script in /etc/xdg/autostart/vmware-user.desktop. GNOME s

Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.17 alpha coming to rawhide near you (broken python-srpm-macros)

2021-04-26 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 4/27/21 12:47 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 26. 04. 21 12:36, Panu Matilainen wrote: It's spring, it's raining sleet where I live, and it's also the season for new rpm in rawhide. As per https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RPM-4.17. The changes to the macro subsystem internals have been qu