It seems that the biggest issue with the documentation you have is the
`fedpkg` and I agree, we should not recommend it. Instead of `fedpkg`,
this should be used to create the SRPM:
~~~
$ rpmbuild --define "_sourcedir `pwd`" -bs package.spec
~~~
However, from this point, the mock should be us
On Tuesday, 08 October 2019 at 08:34, Vít Ondruch wrote:
[...]
> 2) fedpkg would not be needed if rpmbuild would be sanely able to do
> something like `fedpkg --release master srpm` but even so basic think
> requires either shuffling with files on FS or specifying million of
> working directories.
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 08:32:47AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 10/8/19 8:03 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 04:34:28PM -0400, Scott Talbert wrote:
> >>On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, Richard Shaw wrote:
> >>
> >>>I am in the midst of updating the freecad package in two m
Dne 08. 10. 19 v 1:38 Ankur Sinha napsal(a):
to link to the "How to create a GNU Hello world package" which focuses
on building the rpm only and not the rest of the process. This is here:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/create-hello-world-rpm/
Unless there are strong objections,
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 12:38:21AM +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 20:40:07 +0200, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > I think we are talking about different things.
> >
> > It all depends on which question the doc is trying to answer.
>
> So, there are two diff
On 10/8/19 11:54 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
On Tuesday, 08 October 2019 at 08:34, Vít Ondruch wrote:
[...]
2) fedpkg would not be needed if rpmbuild would be sanely able to do
something like `fedpkg --release master srpm` but even so basic think
requires either shuffling with file
Hello,
bzr (bazaar) FTBFS and is orphaned.
I have a Python 3 replacement called breezy (brz) ready, but it has some
problems with remote repositories on Python 3.8, so I was not ready to build it,
obsolete bzr and have a broken alternative.
However, bzr now also fails to install, so it cannot
Dne 08. 10. 19 v 11:21 Panu Matilainen napsal(a):
> On 10/8/19 11:54 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 08 October 2019 at 08:34, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>> [...]
>>> 2) fedpkg would not be needed if rpmbuild would be sanely able to do
>>> something like `fedpkg --release master s
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 10:57:14 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 08. 10. 19 v 1:38 Ankur Sinha napsal(a):
> > to link to the "How to create a GNU Hello world package" which focuses
> > on building the rpm only and not the rest of the process. This is here:
> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/q
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 09:07:14 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 12:38:21AM +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 20:40:07 +0200, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think we are talking about different things.
> > >
> > >
On 10/8/19 12:45 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 08. 10. 19 v 11:21 Panu Matilainen napsal(a):
On 10/8/19 11:54 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
On Tuesday, 08 October 2019 at 08:34, Vít Ondruch wrote:
[...]
2) fedpkg would not be needed if rpmbuild would be sanely able to do
something li
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 12:21:05 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> Yup. If you prefer working in a dist-git like layout, just configure rpm do
> behave that way. One possibility is simply:
>
> %_topdir %{getenv:PWD}
> %_sourcedir %{_topdir}
> %_specdir %{_topdir}
> %_srcrpmdir %{_topdir}
>
Adding Nikola.
Nikola, is it intended that aspell doesn't depend on any dictionary? E.g.
aspell-en? Please see the email bellow.
Thanks,
Jindrich
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 5:14 PM Tomasz Kłoczko
wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 15:30, Jindrich Novy wrote:
> [..]
>
>> BTW mc.
>>> Also I do not und
Dne 08. 10. 19 v 12:04 Ankur Sinha napsal(a):
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 12:21:05 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
>> Yup. If you prefer working in a dist-git like layout, just configure rpm do
>> behave that way. One possibility is simply:
>>
>> %_topdir %{getenv:PWD}
>> %_sourcedir %{_topdir}
>> %
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 5:40 AM Miro Hrončok wrote:
>
> Hello,
> bzr (bazaar) FTBFS and is orphaned.
>
> I have a Python 3 replacement called breezy (brz) ready, but it has some
> problems with remote repositories on Python 3.8, so I was not ready to build
> it,
> obsolete bzr and have a broken al
On 08. 10. 19 13:19, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 5:40 AM Miro Hrončok wrote:
Hello,
bzr (bazaar) FTBFS and is orphaned.
I have a Python 3 replacement called breezy (brz) ready, but it has some
problems with remote repositories on Python 3.8, so I was not ready to build it,
obsole
> bzr (bazaar) FTBFS and is orphaned.
>
> I have a Python 3 replacement called breezy (brz) ready, but it has some
> problems with remote repositories on Python 3.8, so I was not ready to build
> it,
> obsolete bzr and have a broken alternative.
>
> However, bzr now also fails to install, so it ca
On 08. 10. 19 13:53, Peter Robinson wrote:
bzr (bazaar) FTBFS and is orphaned.
I have a Python 3 replacement called breezy (brz) ready, but it has some
problems with remote repositories on Python 3.8, so I was not ready to build it,
obsolete bzr and have a broken alternative.
However, bzr now a
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 13:10:18 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>
>
> I'll add this to the docs pages when I find time. It can go in the
> "prepare your system" section:
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/creating-rpm-packages/#preparing-your-system-to-create-rpm-packages
>
Hi,
On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 12:58, wrote:
> Notification time stamped 2019-10-08 11:54:56 UTC
>
> From 26d638db91fa316f706ea947ab076bce216ec8cc Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Phil Sutter
> Date: Oct 08 2019 11:51:27 +
> Subject: iproute-5.3.0-2
>
>
> - ifcfg script uses killall, therefore r
On 08. 10. 19 14:04, Miro Hrončok wrote:
On 08. 10. 19 13:53, Peter Robinson wrote:
bzr (bazaar) FTBFS and is orphaned.
I have a Python 3 replacement called breezy (brz) ready, but it has some
problems with remote repositories on Python 3.8, so I was not ready to build it,
obsolete bzr and have
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 13:03:48 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
>
>
> Look, I'm no more in love with the traditional layout than anybody, I'm just
> saying changing the default is not as simple as you'd like to think. Anybody
> wanting to work on changing the default is welcome to propose it upstream
- Original Message -
> From: "Vít Ondruch"
> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 1:10:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Has fedpkg + dist-git replaced rpmbuild for building new/local
> packages?
>
>
>
>
> Dne 08. 10. 19 v 12:04 Ankur Sinha napsal(a):
>
>
>
> On
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 08:08:56PM -0400, Alexander Scheel wrote:
> > Without modularity, RPM doesn't offer a good way to choose between different
> > versions of the same thing. One can squash version numbers into the name,
> > which covers some use cases, but also becomes unwieldy and loses the _
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 02:06:06AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Sure, I fully understand the theoretical benefits to be had from Modularity
> (though I still think that this is much more useful for LTS distributions
> such as RHEL or CentOS than for Fedora). The issue is that it all breaks
> dow
Petr, I am sorry to hear of your health problems. I hope you recover soon.
I have been following this situation but have little time to spend on this.
I personally use mercurial and depend on extensions: evolve and hg-git. I
have been quiet while working on getting these extensions ported.
S
- Original Message -
> From: "Matthew Miller"
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 9:18:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path
>
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 08:08:56PM -0400, Alexander Scheel wrote:
> > > Without modular
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 1:35 AM Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 10/8/19 8:03 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 04:34:28PM -0400, Scott Talbert wrote:
> >> On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, Richard Shaw wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am in the midst of updating the freecad package in two major w
Matthew Miller writes:
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 03:20:21PM -0400, Alexander Scheel wrote:
>
>>> And where is the software for those containers coming from? Some
>>> container registry like Docker Hub? One of the main points of
>>> Modularity is to provide a trusted source of software to install
Someone, could give us advice about below situation, if the new
package htslib's "/usr/lib64/libhts.so.1.9" is valid?
"1.9" is upstream software's version. "2" is ABI's version (so version).
```
sh-5.0# ls -l /usr/lib64/libhts.so*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Oct 2 23:50 /usr/lib64/libhts.so ->
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 10:17:06AM -0400, Alexander Scheel wrote:
> > What if you want to apply a bugfix (or security update) to both of those
> > packages? How would that work?
> I'm not saying it is completely solved, just that what we have left to
> do is a lot less work than trying to fix modul
On Tue, 2019-10-08 at 12:22 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote:
> Nikola, is it intended that aspell doesn't depend on any dictionary?
> E.g. aspell-en? Please see the email bellow.
Hi,
it seems it is intentional [1], this is probably the reason [2].
I suppose aspell could recommend aspell-en, to prevent
My build (qpid-proton package) cannot find pythin36-devel package, I also
tried python3-devel (also not found). It appears python36 was removed from
EPEL 7 recently.
Is this still relevant:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bkabrda/EPEL7_Python3?
Is this a temporary issue with getting python3 int
Hi all.
I wish to maintain libcutl, recently orphaned.
Ticket #8882: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8882
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Hi,
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 01:23:01PM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 12:58, wrote:
>
> > Notification time stamped 2019-10-08 11:54:56 UTC
> >
> > From 26d638db91fa316f706ea947ab076bce216ec8cc Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > From: Phil Sutter
> > Date: Oct 08 2019 11:51:27 +
Hi all,
Today, October 8th 2019, is an important day on the Fedora 31
schedule [1], with significant cut-offs.
Today we have the Final Freeze [2]. This means that only packages
which fix accepted blocker or freeze exception bugs [3][4][5] will be
marked as 'stable' and included in the Final compo
Now python 3.6 is shipped by RHEL 7.7 or Centos 7.7, the rules
of [1] still valid so you should (or must ) use [2]
[2]BuildRequires: python%{python3_pkgversion}-devel
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bkabrda/EPEL7_Python3
On Tue, 2019-10-08 at 12:48 -0400, Irina Boverman wrote:
> My build
On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 17:15, Nikola Forró wrote:
> On Tue, 2019-10-08 at 12:22 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote:
> > Nikola, is it intended that aspell doesn't depend on any dictionary?
> > E.g. aspell-en? Please see the email bellow.
>
> Hi,
>
> it seems it is intentional [1], this is probably the rea
On 08. 10. 19 18:48, Irina Boverman wrote:
My build (qpid-proton package) cannot find pythin36-devel package, I also tried
python3-devel (also not found). It appears python36 was removed from EPEL 7
recently.
Yes it was, as it was added to RHEL 7.7.
The error is:
https://koji.fedoraproject.or
Using "BuildRequires: python%{python3_pkgversion}-devel" results in this
error:
fedpkg scratch-build
DEBUG util.py:593: No matching package to install: 'python36-devel'
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 1:43 PM Sérgio Basto wrote:
> Now python 3.6 is shipped by RHEL 7.7 or Centos 7.7, the rules of [1
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 06:42:40PM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
> To be honest IMO separating aspell dictionaries is a bit illogical because
> on distribution layer language dependent resources should be described by
> %lang() and chosen on install stage by %_install_langs.
> Ergo: all "langpack" (
On 10/7/19 4:34 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
To me, most packages would benefit from having two streams: fast and slow.
That's the essential problem I want solved anyway. (Maybe with CentOS
Streams: fast, slow, very slow.)
The "slow" version would be updated on a careful cadence with big updates
al
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 02:09:24PM -0400, Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote:
> Having said that, I am not sure it will solve the problem with
> ecosystems requiring specific collection of component versions (*):
> what is the expected number of required versions for each module in
> those environm
Hi,
I have removed dependency on service B from service A and all references to
service B. The new package works well for fresh install (service A can be
started normally), but it does not work for upgrades from previous versions
where service A used to depend on service B (starting service A f
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 07:54:37PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 08. 10. 19 18:48, Irina Boverman wrote:
> > My build (qpid-proton package) cannot find pythin36-devel package, I
> > also tried python3-devel (also not found). It appears python36 was
> > removed from EPEL 7 recently.
>
> Yes it wa
We could simply stop doing projects that throw wildly different versions of
software into a single installation, which causes this issue.
On October 8, 2019 6:23:47 PM UTC, Matthew Miller
wrote:
>On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 02:09:24PM -0400, Przemek Klosowski via devel
>wrote:
>> Having said that,
On 10/8/19 6:04 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
Would anyone else have the cycles to review/update these pages in the
meantime please?
https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.fedoraproject.org%2Fen-US%2Fquick-docs%2Fcreating-rpm-packages%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cprzemek.klosowski%
Ok, how will I know what test results are?
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 2:56 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 07:54:37PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > On 08. 10. 19 18:48, Irina Boverman wrote:
> > > My build (qpid-proton package) cannot find pythin36-devel package, I
> > > also tried
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 03:48:35PM -0400, Irina Boverman wrote:
> Ok, how will I know what test results are?
We will be sure to share them back here to devel and epel-devel lists.
kevin
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>
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 2:56 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 07:54:37PM +0200, M
On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 15:32, John M. Harris, Jr. wrote:
>
> We could simply stop doing projects that throw wildly different versions of
> software into a single installation, which causes this issue.
>
We could also just all quit and join potato farming cults.. they are
next to the Yak farms whi
An update of mpfr from version 3.1.6 to version 4.0.2 is about to begin in
Rawhide in a side tag:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/mpfr-4.0.2
If you see a "Rebuild for mpfr 4" commit in your package repo, then please
coordinate with me before building your package in Rawhide. If you do
On 10/8/19 3:30 PM, John M. Harris, Jr. wrote:
We could simply stop doing projects that throw wildly different
versions of software into a single installation, which causes this issue.
There's a word for this that I can't remember at the
moment---'producting'? I think it's related to the monor
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 3:42 PM John M. Harris, Jr.
wrote:
> We could simply stop doing projects that throw wildly different versions
> of software into a single installation, which causes this issue.
>
What you don't seem to appreciate, based on your comments in this thread
and others over the p
Minutes:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-10-08/modularity.2019-10-08-15.08.html
Minutes (text):
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-10-08/modularity.2019-10-08-15.08.txt
Log:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-10-08/modularity.2019-10
On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 15:49, Irina Boverman wrote:
>
> Ok, how will I know what test results are?
>
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 2:56 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 07:54:37PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>> > On 08. 10. 19 18:48, Irina Boverman wrote:
>> > > My build (qpid-proton
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 12:58:21PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 03:48:35PM -0400, Irina Boverman wrote:
> > Ok, how will I know what test results are?
>
> We will be sure to share them back here to devel and epel-devel lists.
And... smooge and I just tested this. Sadly it
OLD: Fedora-31-20191007.n.0
NEW: Fedora-31-20191008.n.1
= SUMMARY =
Added images:0
Dropped images: 3
Added packages: 1
Dropped packages:1
Upgraded packages: 101
Downgraded packages: 0
Size of added packages: 871.28 KiB
Size of dropped packages:1.16 MiB
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 1:56 PM Irina Boverman wrote:
>
> Using "BuildRequires: python%{python3_pkgversion}-devel" results in this
> error:
>
> fedpkg scratch-build
> DEBUG util.py:593: No matching package to install: 'python36-devel'
A lot of Fedora .spec files use "python3-devel" and various
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 6:45 PM Ravindra Kumar via devel
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have removed dependency on service B from service A and all references to
> service B. The new package works well for fresh install (service A can be
> started normally), but it does not work for upgrades from previ
On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 06:04:39AM +, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 6:45 PM Ravindra Kumar via devel
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have removed dependency on service B from service A and all references to
> > service B. The new package works well for fresh install
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