Re: [HEADS UP] Rawhide buildroot now has glibc-minimal-langpack instead

2018-11-29 Thread Vít Ondruch
That is huge. Thx a lot. Vít Dne 28. 11. 18 v 20:33 Igor Gnatenko napsal(a): > Hello, > > the removal of glibc-all-langpacks from the buildroot[0] is done. > Standard buildroot has decreased from 445 to 237 megabytes in > installed size ;) > > Before: > DEBUG util.py:439: Install 146 Package

Re: Proposal: Move to an annual platform release starting at F30

2018-11-29 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 27. 11. 18 v 17:04 Josh Boyer napsal(a): >> In other words, the "technical debt" we are trying to solve here is >> not project wide and doesn't justify slowing down the whole project >> permanently. > I completely disagree. Our release process and tooling is built on > heroism and tech debt.

Re: /etc/nssswitch.conf is supposed to be a symlink now?

2018-11-29 Thread Pavel Březina
On 11/28/18 4:37 PM, Robert Marcano wrote: On 11/28/18 11:20 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 11/28/18 3:45 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: * Richard W. M. Jones: Trying to track down a bug in IPP printing (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1653276). We're down a rabbit hole where it seems t

Re: /etc/nssswitch.conf is supposed to be a symlink now?

2018-11-29 Thread Robert Marcano
On 11/29/18 7:46 AM, Pavel Březina wrote: On 11/28/18 4:37 PM, Robert Marcano wrote: On 11/28/18 11:20 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 11/28/18 3:45 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: * Richard W. M. Jones: Trying to track down a bug in IPP printing (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1653276).

Re: What does extended F30 cycle mean for F29?

2018-11-29 Thread Artur Iwicki
No, we did NOT do that. A quick search on the devel list archives shows that F19 was released in July 2013: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/SSLJL6ZJC7M7TAOPNHJY7UAS7MA66PMR/ ...and EOL'd on in January 2015: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archiv

Re: /etc/nssswitch.conf is supposed to be a symlink now?

2018-11-29 Thread Pavel Březina
On 11/28/18 3:52 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: On 28/11/2018 14:45, Florian Weimer wrote: * Richard W. M. Jones: Trying to track down a bug in IPP printing (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1653276). We're down a rabbit hole where it seems that in Fedora 29 /etc/nssswitch.conf ought to be

Re: What does delaying F31 mean for packagers/users?

2018-11-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 3:39 PM Owen Taylor wrote: > > One of the key parts of making a decision to delay/skip F31 is > figuring out, ahead of the decision, what the expected experience is > for users and packagers. Does F30 have normal stability, or do we try > to keep users happy by moving thing

Re: Improving the compose: leave the current compose in place

2018-11-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 7:01 PM Paul Frields wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:59 AM Owen Taylor wrote: > > A lot of discussion about improving the compose process seem to end up > > with a "reality check" - that ideas have already been tried but don't > > work because of requirements a) b) c)

Re: /etc/nssswitch.conf is supposed to be a symlink now?

2018-11-29 Thread Pavel Březina
On 11/29/18 12:59 PM, Robert Marcano wrote: On 11/29/18 7:46 AM, Pavel Březina wrote: On 11/28/18 4:37 PM, Robert Marcano wrote: On 11/28/18 11:20 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 11/28/18 3:45 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: * Richard W. M. Jones: Trying to track down a bug in IPP printing (https://

Re: /etc/nssswitch.conf is supposed to be a symlink now?

2018-11-29 Thread Pavel Březina
On 11/28/18 6:35 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 05:02:17PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 28.11.18 um 15:45 schrieb Florian Weimer: * Richard W. M. Jones: Trying to track down a bug in IPP printing (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1653276). We're down a r

Re: /etc/nssswitch.conf is supposed to be a symlink now?

2018-11-29 Thread Pavel Březina
On 11/28/18 3:59 PM, Henrique Martins wrote: My configuration is different, just take as FYI. ... it seems that in Fedora 29 /etc/nssswitch.conf ought to be a symlink. This machine has been upgraded from F28 and this is not the case. AFAIK I have never edited the file. It is still a file an

Re: /etc/nssswitch.conf is supposed to be a symlink now?

2018-11-29 Thread Pavel Březina
On 11/28/18 11:22 PM, Jan Pokorný wrote: On 28/11/18 11:48 -0400, Robert Marcano wrote: There is another thing I found wrong. The backed up nsswitch.conf has these lines appended (ckey and incomplete aliases line) after the real end of the original file (aliases: files): aliases:files

Re: Changing nsswitch.conf on a running system (was Re: /etc/nssswitch.conf is supposed to be a symlink now?)

2018-11-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ray Strode wrote: > (defer until next offline update?) That would be never on many systems. Most users using command-line DNF and all users using plasma-pk-updates or dnfdragora never do offline updates by design. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailin

Fedora Hardware portal

2018-11-29 Thread Andrey Ponomarenko
Hi, The Linux-Hardware.org database has been divided recently into a set of databases, one per each Linux distro. The one for Fedora is available at: https://linux-hardware.org/?d=Fedora Everyone can contribute to the database with the help of https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe (various packa

compilation of mlt-freeworld-6.12.0 fails

2018-11-29 Thread Martin Gansser
Hi, want to compile new mlt-freeworld-6.12.0 [1], but it fails in the %install section ... %install %make_install #before remove it print it to check with main mlt package find %{buildroot} | grep -vP "mlt/avformat|libmltavformat.so" # remove all execept avformat (ffmpeg part) find %{buildroot}

Re: compilation of mlt-freeworld-6.12.0 fails

2018-11-29 Thread J. Randall Owens
There are spaces in the file names, so it sees something like "Ut Video" and xargs parses it as meaning "Ut" and "Video". Easiest way to fix it is probably to change the paths to be null-terminated, by adding -print0 to the find and -0 to the xargs, like so: find %{buildroot} -type f -print0 | gre

Re: compilation of mlt-freeworld-6.12.0 fails

2018-11-29 Thread J. Randall Owens
Oh, and I think the grep will also have to be tweaked with a -z to take the null termination into account: find %{buildroot} -type f -print0 | grep -vPz "mlt/avformat|libmltavformat.so" | xargs -0 rm On 29/11/2018 14:21, J. Randall Owens wrote: > There are spaces in the file names, so it sees som

Re: compilation of mlt-freeworld-6.12.0 fails

2018-11-29 Thread Martin Gansser
thanks for your answer, but there a new error message: /home/martin/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/mlt-freeworld-6.12.0-1.fc29.x86_64/usr/bin/melt + grep -vP 'mlt/avformat|libmltavformat.so' + find /home/martin/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/mlt-freeworld-6.12.0-1.fc29.x86_64 -type f -print0 + xargs -0 rm rm: cannot rem

Re: compilation of mlt-freeworld-6.12.0 fails

2018-11-29 Thread Martin Gansser
Many thanks, now it works. Martin ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedo

Re: What does delaying F31 mean for packagers/users?

2018-11-29 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 12:15:52 +, you wrote: >From an IoT perspective where we're looking at some features around >security that could be cross component dependent >(toolchain/kernel/userspace) to be unable to consume for possibly an >18 month window, yes we rebase kernels but we need to rebase

Re: What does delaying F31 mean for packagers/users?

2018-11-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 2:58 PM Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 12:15:52 +, you wrote: > > >From an IoT perspective where we're looking at some features around > >security that could be cross component dependent > >(toolchain/kernel/userspace) to be unable to consume for possib

Re: Proposal: Move to an annual platform release starting at F30

2018-11-29 Thread Paul Frields
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 4:47 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 27. 11. 18 v 17:04 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > >> In other words, the "technical debt" we are trying to solve here is > >> not project wide and doesn't justify slowing down the whole project > >> permanently. > > I completely disagree. Our

Re: Proposal: Move to an annual platform release starting at F30

2018-11-29 Thread Paul Frields
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 7:43 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > I think the kernel is a bad example here. It's exceedly stable across > releases, so it's probably the one component that's least problematic > to upgrade during a fedora release. The fedora kernel team is already > doing that, and they are

Re: replace unclutter with unclutter-xfixes?

2018-11-29 Thread Till Maas
Hi Henrique, On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 08:40:29AM -0800, Henrique Martins wrote: > Unclutter seems to be an orphaned package that keeps being > rebuilt, there even is an fc30 rpm. The URL given in the > fc29 package points to a dead link on MIT. I filed a > bugzilla report on this and no one repli

Re: Proposal: Move to an annual platform release starting at F30

2018-11-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 10:22 AM Paul Frields wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 4:47 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > > Dne 27. 11. 18 v 17:04 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > > >> In other words, the "technical debt" we are trying to solve here is > > >> not project wide and doesn't justify slowing down t

Re: [HEADS UP] tinyxml2 SONAME bump (7.x)

2018-11-29 Thread Igor Gnatenko
And it's in rawhide. On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:54 AM Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I'm going to update tinyxml2 to 7.x later this week. > > Affected packages: > * cppcheck > * dvblinkremote > * fuse > * gazebo > * kodi (rpmfusion) > * libmediainfo > * vdr > > I'm going to rebuild all of

Re: Proposal: Move to an annual platform release starting at F30

2018-11-29 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 10:57 AM Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 10:22 AM Paul Frields wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 4:47 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > > > > Dne 27. 11. 18 v 17:04 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > > > >> In other words, the "technical debt" we are trying to solve

Re: Proposal: Move to an annual platform release starting at F30

2018-11-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:15 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 10:57 AM Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 10:22 AM Paul Frields wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 4:47 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > > > > > > Dne 27. 11. 18 v 17:04 Josh Boyer napsal(a): >

Fedora 30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Migrate Python-based Nautilus extensions to Python 3

2018-11-29 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NautilusExtensionsPython3 The Python backend for the nautilus-python extension will be updated from python2 to python3. All Nautilus extensions written in Python will need to be checked for Python 3 compatibility and updated if necessary. Extensions compatibl

Re: Changing nsswitch.conf on a running system (was Re: /etc/nssswitch.conf is supposed to be a symlink now?)

2018-11-29 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 11/29/18 8:29 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Ray Strode wrote: (defer until next offline update?) That would be never on many systems. Most users using command-line DNF and all users using plasma-pk-updates or dnfdragora never do offline updates by design. I, being of the old school, still try to

Re: Proposal: Move to an annual platform release starting at F30

2018-11-29 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 29 novembre 2018 à 10:56 -0500, Josh Boyer a écrit : > > Of the large number of packages that you maintain, how many of them > are critical to freeze at a specific version for a given Fedora > release? Possibly some, but I would think across the distribution it > would not be a huge numb

Re: Proposal: Move to an annual platform release starting at F30

2018-11-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 12:42 PM Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le jeudi 29 novembre 2018 à 10:56 -0500, Josh Boyer a écrit : > > > > Of the large number of packages that you maintain, how many of them > > are critical to freeze at a specific version for a given Fedora > > release? Possibly some, but

Re: What does delaying F31 mean for packagers/users?

2018-11-29 Thread Leigh Scott
Damn!, I thought this was a done deal and booked my six month holiday :-) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-con

Re: Last dbus upgrade issues

2018-11-29 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Monday, 26 November 2018 at 23:49, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: [...] > Cleaning the session is perfect example of what can be done with using > Solaris contracts which is kind of grouping attribute for some group > of processes which needs to be treated as the group. When session The Linux implementa

A smart cache-y proposal for composes

2018-11-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
So, I had an idea of one method of attack for composes and lifecycles that I thought I would toss out there to see what others thought of it. Instead of redesigning and reimplementing our current build/compose/test pipeline we improve it by making the current process cache as much of everything as

Re: A smart cache-y proposal for composes

2018-11-29 Thread Randy Barlow
"NO" -adamw signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/

Re: A smart cache-y proposal for composes

2018-11-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-11-29 at 16:01 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > "NO" -adamw =) More seriously, to me this is kinda a natural consequence of what we've already talked about quite a bit with associating inputs and outputs. But I dunno if I'd think of it as *caching*, exactly, just more along the lines

Re: Fedora Hardware portal

2018-11-29 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 04:57:33PM +0300, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: > https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe (various packages are available: > AppImage, Snap, Flatpak, Docker, RPM, etc.). The tool is intended to Have you considered packaging this directly in Fedora? That would make it a lot easier f

Re: What does delaying F31 mean for packagers/users?

2018-11-29 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 12:15:52PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > This is basically the problem I have with the work we're doing in IoT. > The basically will make me re-evaluate if IoT is now worth doing at > all in Fedora or whether I am now better off focusing my efforts > elsewhere. Is there so

Tracking translation status of a package built in koji

2018-11-29 Thread Sundeep Anand
Hi Everyone, At times this could be a requirement to track or know translation status of a package which has (just) built in koji. Transtats could be used for this purpose. We just need to run a job. Steps: 1. Navigate to https://transtats-web-transtats.app.os.stg.fedoraproject.org/jobs/yml

Re: replace unclutter with unclutter-xfixes?

2018-11-29 Thread Henrique Martins
> the package is not maintained in Fedora anymore and going > to be removed, soon. Would you be willing to maintain it > in Fedora? Maybe, though I have no idea what's involved ... -- Henrique ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: replace unclutter with unclutter-xfixes?

2018-11-29 Thread Peter Oliver
On Fri, 30 Nov 2018, 06:05 Henrique Martins > the package is not maintained in Fedora anymore and going > > to be removed, soon. Would you be willing to maintain it > > in Fedora? > > Maybe, though I have no idea what's involved ... > It's explained at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_pack