Re: Modularity is still confusing

2018-10-10 Thread Petr Šabata
On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 06:07:44PM -0600, Al Stone wrote: > On 10/3/18 9:53 PM, Christopher wrote: > > I'm still very confused about how to do modular packaging in Fedora. I > > don't know: > > > > 1. How do I create a module for a new Fedora package? > > 2. How do I create a module for my existin

[RFC] Default rpm macro packaging layout and conventions

2018-10-10 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi, I'd like Fedora and FPC in general to agree to a general layout for macros and their associated material like templates, so the next step can focus on the actual macros and their documentation, and not on how the result is shipped to users. https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/813

package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Fabio Valentini
Hi all, I tried upgrading my system to f29, and I noticed some packages that would have been downgraded. Upon further investigation, their maintainers seem to have forgotten (or missed) to build and/or submit updates for these packages to fedora 29 - so, for example, the newer version is only avai

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Germano Massullo
Il giorno mer 10 ott 2018 alle ore 13:58 Fabio Valentini ha scritto: > I seem to > remember that package versions should always be higher in newer fedora > releases (so there are no downgrades when upgrading from N to N+1). Is > this what is referred to as a "broken upgrade path"? Exactly ___

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Michal Konečný
Shouldn't this be caused by F29 final freeze? On 10.10.2018 13:57, Fabio Valentini wrote: Hi all, I tried upgrading my system to f29, and I noticed some packages that would have been downgraded. Upon further investigation, their maintainers seem to have forgotten (or missed) to build and/or sub

Re: Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML mail

2018-10-10 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:21 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > > nice for you, other prefer email and *local* archives which sirely don't > disappear *because* you control the whole client and if somebody next > year makes a relaunch of the online stuff with a bad usability or > lacking features you are do

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 2:57 PM Michal Konečný wrote: > > Shouldn't this be caused by F29 final freeze? Not necessarily. The freeze went into effect only yesterday, so it's not that (yet). The specific packages I listed don't have newer versions available, even in f29-updates-testing. As I said,

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Anderson, Charles R
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 03:10:23PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 2:57 PM Michal Konečný wrote: > > > > Shouldn't this be caused by F29 final freeze? > > Not necessarily. The freeze went into effect only yesterday, so it's > not that (yet). > > The specific packages I li

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Kamil Paral
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:59 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > I haven't been able to find the documentation for this, but I seem to > remember that package versions should always be higher in newer fedora > releases (so there are no downgrades when upgrading from N to N+1). Is > this what is referred

Re: hibernation — does it work for you?

2018-10-10 Thread Joachim Frieben
Hibernating my Lenovo ThinkPad T400 fails frequently because of issues with the installed card reader: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1638014 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Germano Massullo
Il giorno mer 10 ott 2018 alle ore 15:46 Kamil Paral ha scritto: > That policy has been cancelled. Since the upgrade tools started doing > basically "dnf distrosync (--allowerasing)" for upgrades, the upgrade path > between distros stopped being a major issue and the policy has been dropped. Do

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Wednesday, 10 October 2018 14.45.22 WEST Kamil Paral wrote: > That policy has been cancelled. Since the upgrade tools started doing > basically "dnf distrosync (--allowerasing)" for upgrades, the upgrade path > between distros stopped being a major issue and the policy has been > dropped. Even

Orphaned some Java packages

2018-10-10 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
I've just orphaned Java packages listed below. All of them are leaf packages - not required or buildrequired by anything that I know of. I divided these packages into 3 groups: Group 1: packages that were only orphaned and are still active in all branches, including master; they may be still usef

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Kamil Paral
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:33 PM Germano Massullo wrote: > Il giorno mer 10 ott 2018 alle ore 15:46 Kamil Paral > ha scritto: > > That policy has been cancelled. Since the upgrade tools started doing > basically "dnf distrosync (--allowerasing)" for upgrades, the upgrade path > between distros st

Re: Modularity is still confusing

2018-10-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 06:07:44PM -0600, Al Stone wrote: >-- And the one question I have to add on to Christopher's wonderful > list: I have a package where upstream releases about once a month, > and each new release must by definition be backwards compatible > (acpica-tools

Re: Modularity is still confusing

2018-10-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 3:15 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 06:07:44PM -0600, Al Stone wrote: > >-- And the one question I have to add on to Christopher's wonderful > > list: I have a package where upstream releases about once a month, > > and each new release

Re: Modularity is still confusing

2018-10-10 Thread Ben Rosser
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 3:15 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 06:07:44PM -0600, Al Stone wrote: > >-- And the one question I have to add on to Christopher's wonderful > > list: I have a package where upstream releases about once a month, > > and each new release

Re: Modularity is still confusing

2018-10-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 03:17:13PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > I still don't get why this subset case requires all the extra module > goop? Couldn't we just have fedpkg have an "fedpkg build > --all-releases" switch to just trigger on the same commit for all > releases? It does seem like something

Re: Modularity is still confusing

2018-10-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 03:28:02PM -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: > My understanding-- from skimming the documentation a few times and > reading discussions about modularity-- is that I'd now need to keep > track of two dist-git repositories, and two different metadata files. > This feels like a lot of e

Re: Modularity is still confusing

2018-10-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 3:46 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 03:17:13PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > I still don't get why this subset case requires all the extra module > > goop? Couldn't we just have fedpkg have an "fedpkg build > > --all-releases" switch to just trigger on

Re: Modularity is still confusing

2018-10-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 03:54:18PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > It does seem like something like that should be possible. > This is possible already, due to a fedpkg update a couple months ago: > https://docs.pagure.org/fedpkg/releases/1.35.html Do we have policy around that? One reason on

Re: hibernation — does it work for you?

2018-10-10 Thread Frank Bx
Works on my Dell XPS 15 9550. But contrary to normal suspend, this takes quite long for the machine to shut down. It was about 25 seconds and my 16 GB RAM was used up to 8 GB, but still 25 seconds are a bit long for an SSD. ___ devel mailing list -- dev

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread David Timms
On 11/10/18 01:50, José Abílio Matos wrote: Even so the problem described seems to be related with packages that were not build for F29 by mistake (probably around the time that F29 was branched from rawhide August 14). If the same nvr exists in F28 and rawhide it is difficult to come with a reas

Re: hibernation — does it work for you?

2018-10-10 Thread Frank Bx
Works on my Dell XPS 15 9550. But contrary to normal suspend, this takes quite long for the machine to shut down. It was about 25 seconds and my 16 GB RAM was used up to 8 GB, but still 25 seconds are a bit long for an SSD. And I have to say that it killed my `rpm-ostree upgrade` on my F29SB, wh

Re: hibernation — does it work for you?

2018-10-10 Thread Frank Bx
Works on my Dell XPS 15 9550. But contrary to normal suspend, this takes quite long for the machine to shut down. It was about 25 seconds and my 16 GB RAM was used up to 8 GB, but still 25 seconds are a bit long for an SSD. And I have to say that it killed my `rpm-ostree upgrade` on my F29SB, wh

Re: Running a test from dist-git

2018-10-10 Thread Miroslav Vadkerti
Hi, sorry for the late response :( On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 9:42 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Oct 01, 2018 at 11:26:59AM +0200, Miroslav Vadkerti wrote: > > For this time I rescheduled the run: > > > > > > > https://jenkins-continuous-infra.apps.ci.centos.org/blue/organizations/jenkins/

Fedora 29 compose report: 20181010.n.0 changes

2018-10-10 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-29-20181009.n.0 NEW: Fedora-29-20181010.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 0 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of upgraded

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "KP" == Kamil Paral writes: KP> That policy has been cancelled. Since the upgrade tools started KP> doing basically "dnf distrosync (--allowerasing)" for upgrades, the KP> upgrade path between distros stopped being a major issue and the KP> policy has been dropped. If this is true then it'

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 7:41 PM Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > > "KP" == Kamil Paral writes: > > KP> That policy has been cancelled. Since the upgrade tools started > KP> doing basically "dnf distrosync (--allowerasing)" for upgrades, the > KP> upgrade path between distros stopped being a ma

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2018-10-11 16:00 UTC)

2018-10-10 Thread James Antill
  Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2018-10-11 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net.   Local time information (via. uitime): = Day: Thursday == 2018-10-11 09:00 PDT  US/Pacific 2018-10-1