Re: Fwd: fedora-tagger sunset - week post F29 beta freeze

2018-08-28 Thread Mattia Verga
> On 2018-08-26, Mattia Verga :( > > -- Petr The Group tag would not fix exactly what I mean. I wouldn't want to create groups of packages, but apply descriptive tags of the abilities of the package. For example, in some of the packages I

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 04:56:58PM +1000, Dan Callaghan wrote: > Excerpts from Till Maas's message of 2018-08-28 00:03 +02:00: > What does it mean for a package to be owned by orphan while it still has > other admins who are real people? > > Is this some kind of edge case where the package was ow

Re: Fwd: fedora-tagger sunset - week post F29 beta freeze

2018-08-28 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2018-08-28, Mattia Verga wrote: >> On 2018-08-26, Mattia Verga > :( >> >> -- Petr > The Group tag would not fix exactly what I mean. I wouldn't want to > create groups of packages, but apply descriptive tags of the abilities > of the pa

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Bob Mauchin
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018, 00:04 Till Maas, wrote: > The following packages are orphaned or depend on an orphaned package > and will be retired, soon, unless someone adopts them. If you know for > sure that > the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: > https://fedoraproject.

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28.8.2018 11:00, Bob Mauchin wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2018, 00:04 Till Maas, > wrote: The following packages are orphaned or depend on an orphaned package and will be retired, soon, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 04:56:58PM +1000, Dan Callaghan wrote: > Excerpts from Till Maas's message of 2018-08-28 00:03 +02:00: > > python-configobj fale, lmacken, orphan, 45 weeks ago > >terjeros > [..

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 11:00:54AM +0200, Bob Mauchin wrote: > > Can someone reassign dnscrypt-proxy to me, eclipseo, I have updated the > project recently and I follow upstream closely. What's the procedure to > adopt it? I assigned it to you. The usual process is to file a releng ticket at

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Bastien Nocera
- Original Message - > So audiofile has eight current maintainers (plus all of gnome-sig) but > somehow none of those maintainers has admin privileges on the > repository. Would any of the maintainers like be made an admin so that > SDL and everything that depends on it can drop out of t

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Akira TAGOH
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:04 AM Till Maas wrote: > VLGothic-fonts orphan 55 weeks ago This has been renamed to vlgothic-fonts quite while ago so we could safely remove it. > The following packages require above mentioned packages: > Depending on: Canna (2)

Re: Automating Package Review

2018-08-28 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2018-08-16 22:09, Stephen Gallagher a écrit : I'd *really* like to see us get to a point where package review is fully-automated. Basically we could just have a web-service that you pass a URL to an SRPM plus authenticate with your FAS account and it will perform all of the validity checks an

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
I think that this list way longer. It is other quite easy method to filter all those packages which are now under thread to be removed, Below oneliner has been executed in directory with yesterday synced rawhide src.rpm mirror: [tkloczko@domek fedora]$ for i in {20..30}; do echo "fc$i $( ls -1 ?/*

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 12:03:26AM +0200, Till Maas wrote: > dpkg 0 weeks ago So this one has caused us trouble. virt-dib depends on debootstrap (a Debian tool for installing chroots), and debootstrap obviously depends quite fundamentall

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Antonio Trande
Hello everyone. > sagitter: lzma Although LZMA Utils are no longer developed and replaced by XZ, they're still required by other packages on Fedora. lzma package is still correctly compiled on fedora 28+, it can endure for a little while yet as long as all dependent software migrate to XZ. http

Re: Golang SIG primary goals?

2018-08-28 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi, Just to get people thinking before the meet… IMHO, the core objective of the SIG should be to maintain a consistent self-hosting up-to-date baseline of Go software in rpm form, that can then be used to build other forms of Fedora deliverables (flatpacks, coreos images, etc) That implies

Re: Golang SIG primary goals?

2018-08-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:06 AM Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > However, my initial objectives were to produce clean prometheus and > grafana Fedora packages, I finished the Go part a few months ago, but > they both include a javascript layer, so I'll probably have to spend > part of my packaging tim

Re: RFC: Alternative -devel packaging

2018-08-28 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2018-08-07 17:33, Adam Jackson a écrit : Consider a library like libGL. At runtime, you want the drivers it might load to be installed. But when building an application, you just need the library itself. If the drivers themselves have non-trivial dependencies, the buildroot is more likely to f

Re: Golang SIG primary goals?

2018-08-28 Thread Jakub Cajka
- Original Message - > From: "Nicolas Mailhot" > To: gol...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Cc: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 10:37:06 AM > Subject: Re: Golang SIG primary goals? > > Hi, > > Just to get people thinking before the meet… > > IMHO, the core o

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] lazy loading of filelists.xml to speed up dnf

2018-08-28 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2018-08-08 22:48, Jeff Johnson a écrit : My issue is the misdirection discussing lazy filelist downloading as a "solution" to the "problem" of huge amounts of data that is forced to be downloaded and loaded. The issue has been discussed repeatedly without a solution. Adding -- and maintainin

Re: fedora-tagger sunset - week post F29 beta freeze

2018-08-28 Thread Björn Persson
Mattia Verga wrote: > The Group tag would not fix exactly what I mean. I wouldn't want to create > groups of packages, but apply descriptive tags of the abilities of the > package. > For example, in some of the packages I maintain: > ccdciel: astronomy, astrophotography, imaging, telescope > skyc

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 28.8.2018 v 00:03 Till Maas napsal(a): > > Package(co)maintainers Status Change > === > js-jquery1 ctubbsii, jamielinux, 5 weeks ago >

Fedora 29 Beta Freeze

2018-08-28 Thread Mohan Boddu
Hi all, Today's an important day on the Fedora 29 schedule[1], with several significant cut-offs. First of all today is the Bodhi activation point [2]. That means that from now all Fedora 29 packages must be submitted to updates-testing and pass the relevant requirements[3] before they will be mar

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] lazy loading of filelists.xml to speed up dnf

2018-08-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:57 AM Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le 2018-08-08 22:48, Jeff Johnson a écrit : > > My issue is the misdirection discussing lazy filelist downloading as a > > "solution" to the "problem" of huge amounts of data that is forced to > > be downloaded and loaded. > > > > The issu

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Zamir SUN
On 08/28/2018 06:03 AM, Till Maas wrote: > Depending on: zopfli (22), status change: 2017-11-05 (42 weeks ago) > fedora-logos (maintained by: alexl, caillon, caolanm, johnp, mbarnes, > rhughes, rstrode, spot, ssp) > fedora-logos-28.0.3-2.fc29.src requires zopfli = 1.0.1-7.fc2

Re: Build failure with -Wl,--as-needed

2018-08-28 Thread Marek Kasik
Hi, On 08/28/2018 04:32 AM, Scott Talbert wrote: Hi, I'm not the maintainer of this package (iaxclient), but I ran into this build failure while working on a pull request.  It seems to be fallout from the -Wl,--as-needed change.  Any idea why this is happening? it could be a consequence of

Re: RFC: Alternative -devel packaging

2018-08-28 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2018-08-28 at 13:47 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le 2018-08-07 17:33, Adam Jackson a écrit : > > Consider a library like libGL. At runtime, you want the drivers it > > might load to be installed. But when building an application, you just > > need the library itself. If the drivers thems

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] lazy loading of filelists.xml to speed up dnf

2018-08-28 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2018-08-28 15:00, Nico Kadel-Garcia a écrit : And no, I'm afraid it does *not* scale since the exclusions from another repository may not be appropriate to the repository one is currently building, and automatically including that whitelist is automatically mismatching the content database to

Re: Fedora 29 Beta Freeze

2018-08-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28.8.2018 02:06, Mohan Boddu wrote: Hi all, Today's an important day on the Fedora 29 schedule[1], with several significant cut-offs. First of all today is the Bodhi activation point [2]. That means that from now all Fedora 29 packages must be submitted to updates-testing and pass the relev

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 28.8.2018 v 00:03 Till Maas napsal(a): > The following packages are orphaned or depend on an orphaned package > and will be retired, soon, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure > that > the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: > https://fedoraproject.o

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Christopher
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 8:49 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > So this is the email announcing orphaning js-jquery1: > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/MI7W7TT3MUGMQTLYZYE5FKXUJCKFUXU7/ > > But apparently it is used by more packages then just a few.

Re: RFC: Alternative -devel packaging

2018-08-28 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2018-08-28 15:27, Adam Jackson a écrit : On Tue, 2018-08-28 at 13:47 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le 2018-08-07 17:33, Adam Jackson a écrit : > Consider a library like libGL. At runtime, you want the drivers it > might load to be installed. But when building an application, you just > need t

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Till Maas
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 04:04:37PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > I'd like to keep the packages above. > > And I'll be very happy if the packages listed bellow are retired. Most > of them are orphaned without comaintainers, that is fine. However some > appears to have co-maintainers, which is not re

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28.8.2018 16:04, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 28.8.2018 v 00:03 Till Maas napsal(a): The following packages are orphaned or depend on an orphaned package and will be retired, soon, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] lazy loading of filelists.xml to speed up dnf

2018-08-28 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 28.8.2018 v 13:56 Nicolas Mailhot napsal(a): > Le 2018-08-08 22:48, Jeff Johnson a écrit : >> My issue is the misdirection discussing lazy filelist downloading as a >> "solution" to the "problem" of huge amounts of data that is forced to >> be downloaded and loaded. >> >> The issue has been d

Re: Build failure with -Wl,--as-needed

2018-08-28 Thread Scott Talbert
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018, Marek Kasik wrote: I'm not the maintainer of this package (iaxclient), but I ran into this build failure while working on a pull request.  It seems to be fallout from the -Wl,--as-needed change.  Any idea why this is happening? it could be a consequence of the bug #162307

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27) - js-jqeury1

2018-08-28 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 28.8.2018 v 15:58 Christopher napsal(a): > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 8:49 AM Vít Ondruch > wrote: > > > So this is the email announcing orphaning js-jquery1: > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/MI7W7TT3M

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 28.8.2018 v 16:15 Till Maas napsal(a): > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 04:04:37PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> I'd like to keep the packages above. >> >> And I'll be very happy if the packages listed bellow are retired. Most >> of them are orphaned without comaintainers, that is fine. However som

Re: RFC: Alternative -devel packaging

2018-08-28 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 28.8.2018 v 13:47 Nicolas Mailhot napsal(a): > Le 2018-08-07 17:33, Adam Jackson a écrit : >> Consider a library like libGL. At runtime, you want the drivers it >> might load to be installed. But when building an application, you just >> need the library itself. If the drivers themselves have

Re: python-pycrypto package?

2018-08-28 Thread Paul Howarth
On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 10:55:28 -0400 Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 at 00:49, Joseph D. Wagner > wrote: > > > > Is python-pycrypto a package? If not, I'm starting to think it > > should be. I'm seeing it show up as requirements for some python > > projects I'd like to work on.

Re: Fedora 29 Beta Freeze

2018-08-28 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 2:57 PM Mohan Boddu wrote: > > Hi all, > > Today's an important day on the Fedora 29 schedule[1], with several > significant cut-offs. First of all today is > the Bodhi activation point [2]. That means that from now all Fedora 29 > packages must be submitted to > updates-

f29-backgrounds theme ready for testing

2018-08-28 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Hello team, f29-backgrounds is ready for testing towards Fedora 29 Beta release. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/desktop-backgrounds-29.0.0-1.fc29%20f29-backgrounds-29.0.0-2.fc29 Please rate it to push to the stable repository. Thank you. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E:

Re: Golang SIG primary goals?

2018-08-28 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2018-08-28 13:49, Jakub Cajka a écrit : Hi Jakub I could spend some time on most of those (though I'd rather pass on B, already done my part, and D/E would be the most fun and probably the most useful for the rest of the SIG). For B I would much appreciate if you would mark which parts of

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2018-08-28 at 00:03 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > waffle orphan 24 weeks ago Dependency for piglit, taken. - ajax ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: Fedora 29 Beta Freeze

2018-08-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28.8.2018 17:25, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 2:57 PM Mohan Boddu wrote: Hi all, Today's an important day on the Fedora 29 schedule[1], with several significant cut-offs. First of all today is the Bodhi activation point [2]. That means that from now all Fedora 29 package

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "ZJ" == Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek writes: ZJ> Unfortunately there is no "button" in pagure, and the process to ZJ> take a package is a manual releng ticket. If you're an admin then you can click the "Give the XXX project" button at the bottom. That will change the "main admin", and I'm

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 08/28/2018 06:04 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >> "ZJ" == Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek writes: > > ZJ> Unfortunately there is no "button" in pagure, and the process to > ZJ> take a package is a manual releng ticket. > > If you're an admin then you can click the "Give the XXX project" but

Re: RFC: Alternative -devel packaging

2018-08-28 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2018-08-28 16:58, Vít Ondruch a écrit : Just FTR, the logic is more or less there. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Bootstrapping https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/789 together with: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/fedora-release/pull-request/7 I hadn't se

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 08/28/2018 02:56 PM, Zamir SUN wrote: > Seems zopfli is used for fedora-logos[1], and this causes a lot of > package to be listed here. I've just adopted rpms/zopfli. > > I am just curious if there are any plan for fedora-logos to switch to > new optimizing tools, or the better choice can be

Re: [modularity] Managing module lifecycles — let's talk!

2018-08-28 Thread Paul Frields
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 7:26 AM Adam Samalik wrote: > == Approaches > > Option 1: The current, yet unfinished approach > > We specify an EOL (end of life) date for each stream branch of individual > packages. This is done when requesting a new stream branch for a package [2] > by passing "--sl r

Re: Buildroot-only modules

2018-08-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 08/27/2018 04:22 PM, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > Some modules are built in MBS/Koji but are never released to users. > Currently such modules can only be used as build dependencies of other > modules. In future, if solution like "ursa-major" [1] is implemented, > such modules could also be used a

Re: Maintenance of arbitrary branches of orphaned package

2018-08-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 08/27/2018 04:24 PM, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > Suppose I am main admin of a package which I would like to orphan in > release branches, but keep maintaining the package in arbitrary [1] > branches, which are used for building modules. Would this considered > as a valid approach? I would think

Heads-up: ImageMagick SONAME bump

2018-08-28 Thread Michael Cronenworth
ImageMagick 6.9.9 => 6.9.10 introduces a SONAME bump from .so.5 to .so.6. I'll rebuild what I can, but please help out if you have some spare cycles. Owners have been BCC'd. dnf repoquery --whatrequires libMagickCore-6.Q16.so.5\(\)\(64bit\) --releasever=30: WINGs-libs-0:0.95.8-10.fc29.x86_64

[Test-Announce] Fedora 29 blocker review for this week

2018-08-28 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! So, sorry I did not schedule or cancel a blocker review meeting for this week - I kinda overlooked it, and also thought there were fewer blockers to discuss than there actually are. Problem is, I can't really run a blocker meeting any other day this week either, as I'll be at Open Source

Re: Heads-up: ImageMagick SONAME bump

2018-08-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2018-08-28 at 13:34 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > ImageMagick 6.9.9 => 6.9.10 introduces a SONAME bump from .so.5 to .so.6. > I'll > rebuild what I can, but please help out if you have some spare cycles. Owners > have > been BCC'd. This is STILL not how you are supposed to do thi

Re: Idea: let's use Pagure to track Changes

2018-08-28 Thread Brian (bex) Exelbierd
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 6:39 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:52:57PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 23.8.2018 22:43, Ben Cotton wrote: > > >Hi community, > > > > > >We've traditionally used the wiki for Change proposals because it's > > >

Rawhide python3-devel conflict issue

2018-08-28 Thread BJH2017
Hi, I build Vim (bleeding-edge package, updated within a day of the latest upstream release) for Fedora Rawhide, among many other platforms, using the openSUSE Build Service and the delightful issue I've found is that python3-devel cannot be installed by the OBS due to a conflict between python3-r

Re: Rawhide python3-devel conflict issue

2018-08-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28.8.2018 22:24, BJH2017 wrote: Hi, I build Vim (bleeding-edge package, updated within a day of the latest upstream release) for Fedora Rawhide, among many other platforms, using the openSUSE Build Service and the delightful issue I've found is that python3-devel cannot be installed by the OB

Re: Rawhide python3-devel conflict issue

2018-08-28 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On mardi 28 août 2018 22:24:09 CEST BJH2017 wrote: > Hi, > > I build Vim (bleeding-edge package, updated within a day of the latest > upstream release) for Fedora Rawhide, among many other platforms, > using the openSUSE Build Service and the delightful issue I've found > is that python3-devel can

Re: Heads-up: ImageMagick SONAME bump

2018-08-28 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 08/28/2018 01:34 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: ImageMagick 6.9.9 => 6.9.10 introduces a SONAME bump from .so.5 to .so.6. I'll rebuild what I can, but please help out if you have some spare cycles. Owners have been BCC'd. Rebuilds are complete. A handful of FTBFS bugs have been filed. Many

Re: Rawhide python3-devel conflict issue

2018-08-28 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On mardi 28 août 2018 22:24:09 CEST BJH2017 wrote: > Hi, > > I build Vim (bleeding-edge package, updated within a day of the latest > upstream release) for Fedora Rawhide, among many other platforms, > using the openSUSE Build Service and the delightful issue I've found > is that python3-devel can

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

2018-08-28 Thread Dan Callaghan
Excerpts from Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek's message of 2018-08-28 08:38 +00:00: > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 04:56:58PM +1000, Dan Callaghan wrote: > > What does it mean for a package to be owned by orphan while it still > > has other admins who are real people? > > > > Is this some kind of edge cas

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27) - js-jqeury1

2018-08-28 Thread Christopher
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 10:44 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 28.8.2018 v 15:58 Christopher napsal(a): > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 8:49 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> >> So this is the email announcing orphaning js-jquery1: >> >> >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedorapro