Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Avoid /usr/bin/python in RPM build

2018-01-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 10.1.2018 03:16, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 10 January 2018 at 11:30, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: In the end I just can't shake the notion that it's bad to have some random non-python-related environment variable basically breaking python. Aye, I think you've hit on the main problem: if this i

Re: Intent to retire jenkins.fedorainfracloud.org

2018-01-10 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 09:25:03AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 11:03 +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > The Fedora Infrastructure team has had a jenkins instance running at > > jenkins.fedorainfracloud.org for a little while now. This instance was > >

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Avoid /usr/bin/python in RPM build

2018-01-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 10.1.2018 00:56, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jan Kurik wrote: Currently in Fedora (package names, executable names, etc.), python means Python 2. We would like to change it to mean Python 3, but to do that, we need to free it of the current meaning. This means explicitly using either "python2" or "py

Re: Disable a package for Fedora 26

2018-01-10 Thread Jonny Heggheim
On 01/09/2018 10:09 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jonny Heggheim wrote: >> I think the best solution, based on my knowledge and available time, is >> to upgrade Fedora 26 to the latest upstream. > So please do that then. The sooner, the better. I agree, pushed updates to bodhi yesterday, it would be g

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Avoid /usr/bin/python in RPM build

2018-01-10 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 01/10/2018 09:33 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 10.1.2018 03:16, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 10 January 2018 at 11:30, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: In the end I just can't shake the notion that it's bad to have some random non-python-related environment variable basically breaking python. Aye, I th

Re: HEADS UP - Changes to Ghostscript package in F28

2018-01-10 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 11:51:03 PM CET David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: > Initial NOTE: I have made some bigger changes in Ghostscript package during > the cleanup, which should be self-contained. In my opinion those changes > are not so significant to create "self-contained change" wiki page for

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Avoid /usr/bin/python in RPM build

2018-01-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 09:33:44AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 10.1.2018 03:16, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >On 10 January 2018 at 11:30, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >>In the end I just can't shake the notion that it's bad to have some > >>random non-python-related environment variable basically b

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Avoid /usr/bin/python in RPM build

2018-01-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 10.1.2018 10:28, Petr Viktorin wrote: On 01/10/2018 09:33 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 10.1.2018 03:16, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 10 January 2018 at 11:30, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: In the end I just can't shake the notion that it's bad to have some random non-python-related environment varia

F28 System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user

2018-01-10 Thread Jan Kurik
= System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RenameNobodyUser Change owner(s): *Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek * Lennart Poettering Use "nobody:nobody" as the names for the kernel overflow UID:GID pair, and retire the old "nfsnobody" name and the old "nobody:

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Avoid /usr/bin/python in RPM build

2018-01-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 10.1.2018 11:25, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 09:33:44AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 10.1.2018 03:16, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 10 January 2018 at 11:30, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: In the end I just can't shake the notion that it's bad to have some random non-

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user

2018-01-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:56:46AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 10.01.2018 um 11:46 schrieb Jan Kurik: > >On existing systems, to make upgrades easier: > >* if nfsnobody was defined, keep it in /etc/passwd *after* the new > >line for nobody:nobody, so that both the old name and the new na

Re: Security updates and batched pushes

2018-01-10 Thread Tomasz Torcz
January 9, 2018 9:59 PM, "Kevin Kofler" wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> To save all the Fedora users in the world from having to update metadata >> for minor changes. Since there's a hourly dnf makecache every user in >> the world pulls down new metadata ever time we update a repo. > > So to s

Re: Security updates and batched pushes

2018-01-10 Thread Martin Stransky
On 01/08/2018 01:36 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On 01/07/2018 01:38 PM, Christian Dersch wrote: Hi all, within the whole Meltdown and Spectre story I realized that Koji pushes even security updates to batched only, not directly to stable. In The critera for bypassing batched is if the update is ma

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Make authselect default tool instead of authconfig

2018-01-10 Thread Pavel Březina
On 01/09/2018 10:36 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 04:30:56PM +0100, Pavel Březina wrote: On 01/05/2018 05:21 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2018 at 02:50:45PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: = System Wide Change: Make authselect default tool ins

Re: HEADS UP - Changes to Ghostscript package in F28

2018-01-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 5:51 PM, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: > Hello guys! :) > > Initial NOTE: I have made some bigger changes in Ghostscript package during > the cleanup, which should be self-contained. In my opinion those changes are > not so significant to create "self-contained change" wiki

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user

2018-01-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 5:46 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: > = System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RenameNobodyUser > > Change owner(s): > *Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > * Lennart Poettering > > Use "nobody:nobody" as the names for the kernel overflow UID:G

scotch: packaging a version with 64bit integers

2018-01-10 Thread Sandro Mani
Hi I've received a request to package a version of scotch with 64bit integers (as opposed to 32bit). I suppose the details are less important, the bottom line is scotch 32bit: typedef int32_t SCOTCH_Num; scotch 64bit: typedef int64_t SCOTCH_Num; where SCOTCH_Num affects the public ABI and i

Re: HEADS UP - Changes to Ghostscript package in F28

2018-01-10 Thread David Kaspar [Dee'Kej]
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > Is there a specific bug that forces us to require we have transitional > packages like this? RPM's Conflicts+Obsoletes logic is powerful enough > to allow us to avoid this. > ​I'm not aware of any BZ/Fedora wiki page that is requiring this​. Th

Re: HEADS UP - Changes to Ghostscript package in F28

2018-01-10 Thread David Kaspar [Dee'Kej]
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:30 PM, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: > I hope I didn't forget to mention something important... :D If something > is unclear, lay it on me! ;) > ​ Yeah, I forgot one more small thing to mention... :D For now I'm waiting for 'google-droid-fonts' to be rebased to latest ve

Re: Package Question

2018-01-10 Thread Steve Dickson
Thanks for all the input... very interesting. But I decide to go a head can create a new package which eliminates all the questions about lifecycles dependencies, licenses, etc Again, thanks for all the input! steved. On 01/08/2018 12:21 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: > Hello, > > Is it a probl

Re: HEADS UP - Changes to Ghostscript package in F28

2018-01-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:30 AM, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> >> Is there a specific bug that forces us to require we have transitional >> packages like this? RPM's Conflicts+Obsoletes logic is powerful enough >> to allow us to avoid this.

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Removal of Sun RPC Interfaces From glibc

2018-01-10 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 12:25 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 01/09/2018 11:00 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: > > On 2018-01-05, Florian Weimer wrote: > > >perl-PDL-2.18.0-4.fc27.src.rpm > > > > [...] > > > This is based on relatively current Fedora rawhide/x86_64 and reflects > > > which currently us

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user

2018-01-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:46:13AM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > Use "nobody:nobody" as the names for the kernel overflow UID:GID pair, > and retire the old "nfsnobody" name and the old "nobody:nogroup" pair > with 99:99 numbers See previous thread on this proposal from two years ago: https://lists.f

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user

2018-01-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:18 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:56:46AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 10.01.2018 um 11:46 schrieb Jan Kurik: >> >On existing systems, to make upgrades easier: >> >* if nfsnobody was defined, keep it in /etc/passwd *after* the

Re: Package Question

2018-01-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: > Hello, > > Is it a problem for a package to pull from two different > upstream tar balls? Basically have > > Source0: http://server.com/package1/package1.tar > Source1: http://server.com/package2/package2.tar > > Then I would, by hand, untar

Re: HEADS UP - Changes to Ghostscript package in F28

2018-01-10 Thread David Kaspar [Dee'Kej]
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > If the content of "ghostscript-core" is now part of "ghostscript", you > can do the following: > > Obsoletes: ghostscript-core < 9.22-5 > Provides: ghostscript-core = %{version}-%{release} > > In addition, packages that currently require "ghost

Re: Security updates and batched pushes

2018-01-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 01/09/2018 02:09 PM, Tim Landscheidt wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> […] > > I really don't understand why we do this "batched" thing to begin with. > To reduce the constant flow of updates that are very minor or affect very few mixed in with the major updates that affect lots

Re: Security updates and batched pushes

2018-01-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 01/09/2018 12:57 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> You also don't want updates-testing to even exist right? > > That is not true. I want to leave the decision whether and for how long an > update needs to be tested to the package maintainer instead of enforcing > minimum testing

Re: Security updates and batched pushes

2018-01-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 01/10/2018 04:01 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > So, if there ARE updates to be pushed (marked urgent?) and we update > metadata > ANYWAY, this is a good point to flush everything from batched in this push. We could yeah. We could also only ever push when there are urgent updates... kevin

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user

2018-01-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 10 January 2018 at 08:50, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 5:46 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: >> The new mapping for nobody:nobody would be implemented in two redundant ways: >> * as a static allocation in /etc/passwd and /etc/group managed by setup.rpm >> * dynamically provided by the

Re: Get stubby into Fedora to provide safe DNS resolution via DNS-over-TLS

2018-01-10 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On mercredi 10 janvier 2018 00:07:11 CET rugk wrote: > Providing privacy and security for DNS! (especially after dnscrypt is > discontinued now). > It would be nice to have this in Fedora. > > https://dnsprivacy.org/wiki/display/DP/DNS+Privacy+Daemon+-+Stubby > GitHub: https://github.com/getdnsap

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Avoid /usr/bin/python in RPM build

2018-01-10 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "MH" == Miro Hrončok writes: MH> This sounds good to me. It didn't occur to me that we can actually MH> set a dedicated env vars for our builds (which is even better). Well, doing so requires that we change an rpm macro to export this new env var in the same place that RPM_BUILD_ROOT is ex

Re: Get stubby into Fedora to provide safe DNS resolution via DNS-over-TLS

2018-01-10 Thread Paul Wouters
On 01/10/2018 11:18 AM, Robert-André Mauchin wrote: > On mercredi 10 janvier 2018 00:07:11 CET rugk wrote: >> Providing privacy and security for DNS! (especially after dnscrypt is >> discontinued now). >> It would be nice to have this in Fedora. >> >> https://dnsprivacy.org/wiki/display/DP/DNS+Pri

Re: Get stubby into Fedora to provide safe DNS resolution via DNS-over-TLS

2018-01-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
> > > > Maybe you could suggest the package maintainer to add a "Provides: > stubby" so > > it can be found directly. CCing Paul Wouters in that regard. > > That's a good idea! I'll fire of some new builds with that later today > when I fixup > the libidn2 handling as well. > > If people are going

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Removal of Sun RPC Interfaces From glibc

2018-01-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > https://github.com/cygwinports/kde-runtime/blob/master/15.04.3-libtirpc.patch FYI, this patch does not work: -- Looking for include file rpc/rpc.h -- Looking for include file rpc/rpc.h - not found … -- The following features have been disabled: * NFS kioslave, The RPC li

Re: HEADS UP - Changes to Ghostscript package in F28

2018-01-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2018-01-10 at 10:45 +0100, Kamil Dudka wrote: > On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 11:51:03 PM CET David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: > > Initial NOTE: I have made some bigger changes in Ghostscript package during > > the cleanup, which should be self-contained. In my opinion those changes > > are not

Re: Security updates and batched pushes

2018-01-10 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
> On Jan 9, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> On 01/08/2018 10:53 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> Well, if this firefox update was urgent, shouldn't it have been marked >>> urgent? >> >> Urgency is always in the eye of the beholder. I as a user consider all >> security up

Re: Security updates and batched pushes

2018-01-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 10 January 2018 at 14:23, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> On Jan 9, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> >>> On 01/08/2018 10:53 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> Kevin Fenzi wrote: Well, if this firefox update was urgent, shouldn't it have been marked urgent? >>> >>> Urgency is always in t

Re: scotch: packaging a version with 64bit integers

2018-01-10 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
Sorry for the top post, on my phone... Telling third party software to link against a different soname suffixed with 64 would be pkg-config's job, usually. Dridi On Jan 10, 2018 14:59, "Sandro Mani" wrote: Hi I've received a request to package a version of scotch with 64bit integers (as oppos

Re: Security updates and batched pushes

2018-01-10 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 10 January 2018 at 14:23, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > >> On Jan 9, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> > >>> On 01/08/2018 10:53 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >>> Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Well, if this firefox update was urgen

Re: Security updates and batched pushes

2018-01-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 10 January 2018 at 14:46, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: >> >> On 10 January 2018 at 14:23, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> >> On Jan 9, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 01/08/2018 10:53 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >

Re: Get stubby into Fedora to provide safe DNS resolution via DNS-over-TLS

2018-01-10 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mer, 10/01/2018 alle 17.18 +0100, Robert-André Mauchin ha scritto: > Maybe you could suggest the package maintainer to add a "Provides: > stubby" so it can be found directly. CCing Paul Wouters in that > regard. [lesca@dodo ~]$ dnf whatprovides stubby -C Last metadata exp

Re: Security updates and batched pushes

2018-01-10 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On 10 January 2018 at 14:46, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Stephen John Smoogen > > wrote: > >> > >> On 10 January 2018 at 14:23, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > >> >> On Jan 9, 2018, at 9:59 A

Re: Security updates and batched pushes

2018-01-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 01/09/2018 02:09 PM, Tim Landscheidt wrote: BTW, are there technical reasons why the metadata is updated en bloc and not incrementally like for example delta RPMs, or is it just that nobody bothered to implement something like that yet for metadata? This has been discussed for a very long ti

subscription-manager & related packages naming

2018-01-10 Thread Kevin Howell
Hi, I am working on a PR to get subscription-manager and related packages packaged for python 3 for Fedora (see https://github.com/candlepin/subscription-manager/pull/1744), and we're aware we've made some naming decisions in the past that aren't quite up to the python package naming conventi

Re: Changelog between OS states (ie: VMs)

2018-01-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > https://pagure.io/compose-utils > > that may be of interest to the original poster. Bingo. https://pagure.io/compose-utils/blob/master/f/compose_utils/changelog.py thank you! martin -- martin.langh...@gmail.com - ask interesting que

Re: provenpackager request: Re: [HEADS UP] opencv 3.3.1 is going to rawhide

2018-01-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 08:27:51PM +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 18:28 +0100, Till Hofmann wrote: > > > > On 01/09/2018 05:53 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > Packages remaining to rebuild: > > > digikam > > > fawkes > > > kf5-libkface > > > nomacs > > > player > > > simon > > >

Re: provenpackager request: Re: [HEADS UP] opencv 3.3.1 is going to rawhide

2018-01-10 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Wed, 2018-01-10 at 22:27 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 08:27:51PM +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 18:28 +0100, Till Hofmann wrote: > > > > > > On 01/09/2018 05:53 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > Packages remaining to rebuild: > > > > di

Re: [Test-Announce] Call for testing: updates to address today's CPU/kernel vulnerability

2018-01-10 Thread John Florian
On 01/03/2018 06:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > * The most useful feedback is just whether the kernel boots and works > correctly on all systems you have access to (assuming they worked OK > with the previous kernel, of course). If it does, please leave positive > karma on the relevant update.

January 2018 Elections: Interview period is open

2018-01-10 Thread Jan Kurik
Today we are starting the Interview period during which we will prepare interviews with candidates to the following teams: * FESCo (Engineering) [1] * Fedora Council [2] * Mindshare [3] This period is open until 2018-Jan-15 at 23:59:59 UTC. The questions for candidates can be found in the templa

Re: F28 System Wide Change: IBus Unicode Typing

2018-01-10 Thread Christopher
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:08 AM Jan Kurik wrote: > = System Wide Change: IBus Unicode Typing = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IBus_Unicode_Typing > > Change owner(s): > * Takao Fujiwara > > IBus core provides an Emoji dialog which users can type emoji > annotations and output the emoji

Re: provenpackager request: Re: [HEADS UP] opencv 3.3.1 is going to rawhide

2018-01-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:35:16PM +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Wed, 2018-01-10 at 22:27 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 08:27:51PM +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 18:28 +0100, Till Hofmann wrote: > > > > > > > > On 01/09/2018 05:53 P

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user

2018-01-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:21:32AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:46:13AM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > > Use "nobody:nobody" as the names for the kernel overflow UID:GID pair, > > and retire the old "nfsnobody" name and the old "nobody:nogroup" pair > > with 99:99 numbers >

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user

2018-01-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:26:24AM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:18 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:56:46AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> > >> Am 10.01.2018 um 11:46 schrieb Jan Kurik: > >> >On existing systems, to make upgra

Fedora Rawhide-20180110.n.0 compose check report

2018-01-10 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 15/129 (x86_64), 4/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20180108.n.0): ID: 185174 Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/185174 ID: 185175 Test: x86_6