Re: Self Introduction: Ron Olson

2016-11-14 Thread Andrea Musuruane
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Ron Olson wrote: > Aloha all- > > I’m Ron Olson, with the nickname tachoknight. I have been using Unix since > 1989 and Linux since about 1992, when we somehow got an early version to run > on a Gateway2000 machine. Welcome! > I have submitted for review an updat

Re: Should we stop stripping static libraries?

2016-11-14 Thread Florian Weimer
On 11/14/2016 06:10 AM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: On Friday 11 November 2016 12:46 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: We currently call /usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip-static-archive from %__os_install_post. This removes debugging symbols from static (.a) libraries. Is this really a good idea? Due to this, gli

Re: Soon retirement of zeromq2 and zeromq3

2016-11-14 Thread Petr Pisar
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 10:40:43AM +, Thomas Spura wrote: > The current dependencies are: > # dnf repoquery --whatrequires zeromq2 --alldeps > perl-ZMQ-LibZMQ2-0:1.09-7.fc23.x86_64 > perl-ZeroMQ-0:0.23-11.fc23.x86_64 > zeromq2-devel-0:2.2.0-14.fc23.i686 > zeromq2-devel-0:2.2.0-14.fc23.x86_64 >

Re: Orphaned several Python packages

2016-11-14 Thread Charalampos Stratakis
After examining carefully the upstream status of each of these packages, all of the original projects are dead currently, however I'll drop the ones that do not have an active fork and keep the rest and change the sources to a fork. Thus orphaning: python-django-roa python-django-profile python-

Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2016-11-14)

2016-11-14 Thread opensource
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If y

[EPEL-devel] Orphaned Packages in epel6 (2016-11-14)

2016-11-14 Thread opensource
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If y

[HEADS UP] Retiring mozjs31

2016-11-14 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Hi, At this point, nothing uses mozjs31, so I'm going to retire it in Rawhide and orphan for F24 / F25. It was used by 0 A.D. (the reason why we packaged it), but nowadays upstream migrated to mozjs38. -- -Igor Gnatenko ___ devel mailing list -- devel@l

Re: [HEADS-UP] PHP 7.1 coming to rawhide next week

2016-11-14 Thread Remi Collet
Le 10/11/2016 à 16:32, Remi Collet a écrit : > Hi, > > See: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/php71 > > I plan to build it (7.1.0RC6 which should be the last RC before 7.1.0) > next week. > > All extensions should be compatible. > I will take care of the mass rebuild. Mass rebuild done:

Re: [HEADS UP] Retiring mozjs31

2016-11-14 Thread Kalev Lember
On 11/14/2016 11:54 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > Hi, > > At this point, nothing uses mozjs31, so I'm going to retire it in > Rawhide and orphan for F24 / F25. It was used by 0 A.D. (the reason > why we packaged it), but nowadays upstream migrated to mozjs38. Hi Igor, Can you transfer it to me plea

Re: No arch broken dependency issue

2016-11-14 Thread Pavel Raiskup
On Sunday, November 13, 2016 4:28:26 PM CET Jeremy Newton wrote: > Hi, > I was wondering if any of the RPM guru's know how to fix an issue I'm having. > > I keep getting this email: > >orthorobot has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: > >On ppc64le: > >orthorobot-1.1-4.fc26.noarch re

Re: RFC (round 2): Change the default hostname for Fedora 26+

2016-11-14 Thread Samuel Rakitničan
Since I like to use terminal a lot, I would prefer if you keep it short! If you must include branding I would prefer shorter version of "Fed" or "fed" so ideally something like "fed12345". ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Re: RFC (round 2): Change the default hostname for Fedora 26+

2016-11-14 Thread Samuel Rakitničan
> Since I like to use terminal a lot, I would prefer if you keep it short! > > If you must include branding I would prefer shorter version of "Fed" or > "fed" so ideally something like "fed12345". Shorter hostname is not only useful when typing commands, but anywhere else where it is used. For e

Re: RFH: Annotating ELF binaries

2016-11-14 Thread Dave Love
Nick Clifton writes: > Hello Everyone, > > We (the tools team at Red Hat) are working on a project to add > annotations to ELF binaries, so that we can answer various questions > about them. We have set up a wiki page about the project here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Toolchain/Wat

Re: rpm vs --compress-debug-sections=zlib

2016-11-14 Thread Vít Ondruch
As a follow up, I opened ticket to add compressed debug section support to RPM [1] and asked Ruby upstream to make this flag configurable [2]. Vít [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1394759 [2] https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12934 Dne 10.11.2016 v 16:25 Vít Ondruch napsal(a

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 11/11/2016 11:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2016-11-11 at 08:33 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> Just to address this specifically, I am referring to Apple's penchant for >> stuffing their machines with hardware from vendors that don't play well with >> open-source (for example, swit

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 11/13/2016 01:46 PM, Ms Sanchez wrote: > > > On 11/11/16 14:33, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> >> Just to address this specifically, I am referring to Apple's penchant for >> stuffing their machines with hardware from vendors that don't play well with >> open-source (for example, switching to wif

Re: MP3 in Fedora by default?

2016-11-14 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 11/13/2016 03:38 AM, Ms Sanchez wrote: > > > On 12/11/16 20:32, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 18:26 +0100, Ms Sanchez wrote: >>> Oh..! Now I see why the new didn't reach me, I'm not in the legal >>> list. >>> So, Fedora 25 will come with MP3 decoders by default, right? Th

Re: RFC: Change the default hostname for Fedora 26+

2016-11-14 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 11/13/2016 02:01 PM, Ms Sanchez wrote: > To me, the default hostname should be fedora-xx. There are thousands if not > millions of computers using Fedora so it's quite anonymous. > I don't think copying Windows behaviour is a good idea, they aren't known for > their security > Well, in or

Re: [HEADS UP] Retiring mozjs31

2016-11-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: > On 11/14/2016 11:54 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: >> Hi, >> >> At this point, nothing uses mozjs31, so I'm going to retire it in >> Rawhide and orphan for F24 / F25. It was used by 0 A.D. (the reason >> why we packaged it), but nowadays upstream m

Re: RFC (round 2): Change the default hostname for Fedora 26+

2016-11-14 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 11/12/2016 01:14 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 11:17:39AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> On 11 November 2016 at 22:20, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 01:20:26PM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> I can't think of

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 11/11/2016 11:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> On Fri, 2016-11-11 at 08:33 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >>> Just to address this specifically, I am referring to Apple's penchant for >>> stuffing their machines with hardware from ve

Re: GitPython update blocked by rpkg - how can this be resolved?

2016-11-14 Thread Peter Robinson
>>> On 11/10/2016 09:42 PM, Barry Scott wrote: >>> In this bug >>> >>>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1360797 >>> >>> It is implied that rpkg has an unspecified problem with GitPython 2.0. >>> >>> This is preventing the maintainer from updating to the any GitPython 2 >>> release. >>

Re: RFC: Change the default hostname for Fedora 26+

2016-11-14 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 11/12/2016 12:03 AM, Glen Turner wrote: > >> RFC 2606[1] reserves several TLDs that may never be registered for >> public usage. Out of those, going with >> Fedora-.localhost >> seems like the best bet. > > The *reason* localhost is a reserved name is to discourage its use in > DNS na

Re: GitPython update blocked by rpkg - how can this be resolved?

2016-11-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: On 11/10/2016 09:42 PM, Barry Scott wrote: In this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1360797 It is implied that rpkg has an unspecified problem with GitPython 2.0. This is preventing the

Re: [HEADS-UP] PHP 7.1 coming to rawhide next week

2016-11-14 Thread Remi Collet
Le 14/11/2016 à 12:16, Remi Collet a écrit : > For now, interbase and pdo_firebird extensions are FTBFS, since Firebird > 3, so I have disabled the sub-package, under investigation. Fixed. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Reviews Weekly

2016-11-14 Thread nobody
Start Date: 2016-11-07 10:08:01.526840 End Date: 2016-11-14 10:08:01.526840 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek : 6 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1376932 python3-markupsafe https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1370533 python-django-pgjson https://bug

[POC-change] Fedora packages point of contact updates

2016-11-14 Thread nobody
Change in package status over the last 168 hours 14 packages were orphaned - GLee [f23, master, f25, f24] was orphaned by hicham GL Easy Extension library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/GLee authd [f2

Re: RFC (round 2): Change the default hostname for Fedora 26+

2016-11-14 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 14.11.16 08:13, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote: > One way to address this might be for systemd to provide an API for what > Lennart > is suggesting and market that as "the correct way to generate a > machine-id-derived string". > > Basically, I see the function looking som

Use of %{?_isa}

2016-11-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Here are three packages, none of them using %{?_isa} in their spec files: (a) libvirt http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/libvirt.git/tree/libvirt.spec (b) libguestfs http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/libguestfs.git/tree/libguestfs.spec (c) qemu http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/c

Fedora 25 compose report: 20161114.n.0 changes

2016-11-14 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-25-20161113.n.0 NEW: Fedora-25-20161114.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 2 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 0 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0.00 B Size of dropped packages:0.00 B Size of

Re: RFC (round 2): Change the default hostname for Fedora 26+

2016-11-14 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 11/14/2016 09:05 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 14.11.16 08:13, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> One way to address this might be for systemd to provide an API for what >> Lennart >> is suggesting and market that as "the correct way to generate a >> machine-id-deriv

Re: Use of %{?_isa}

2016-11-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Here are three packages, none of them using %{?_isa} in their spec files: > > (a) libvirt > http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/libvirt.git/tree/libvirt.spec > (b) libguestfs > http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/libguestfs.

Re: RFC: Change the default hostname for Fedora 26+

2016-11-14 Thread Lukas Zapletal
> Thoughts on how to generate these random strings are of course up for > discussion. Given that initial machine creation may have limited available I am fighting against human unreadable names in hostnames (specifically in datacenters) and I created a little tool [1] that generates human readabl

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: Broken dependencies: vim-syntastic

2016-11-14 Thread Pavel Raiskup
On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:55:48 PM CET Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > First off, the guidelines have: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Noarch_with_unported_dependencies > > I've been assuming that you're talking about the BuildRequires: case. > If you're just talking

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20161114.n.0 changes

2016-11-14 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20161113.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20161114.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 55 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0.00 B Size of dropped packages:0.00 B

Re: Touchpad data needed - 5 min of effort

2016-11-14 Thread Kamil Paral
> [Disclaimer: sorry if you've seen this one before, I posted it to desktop@ > but I only got one recording. That's not quite enough to call it a dataset, > let alone do any analysis on it. Please do consider the minimal effort > required on your behalf.] > > Are you using a touchpad frequently du

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: >> On Thu, 2016-11-10 at 13:31 -0800, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2016-11-1 0/f25-final-gono-go-meeting.2016-11-10-17.00.log.html >>> >>> >

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 5:33 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Just to address this specifically, I am referring to Apple's penchant for > stuffing their machines with hardware from vendors that don't play well with > open-source (for example, switching to wifi-only devices and shipping Broadcom > c

Fedora 25-20161114.n.0 compose check report

2016-11-14 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Cloud_base qcow2 x86_64 Cloud_base raw-xz x86_64 Failed openQA tests: 3/101 (x86_64), 1/17 (i386) New failures (same test did not fail in 25-20161113.n.0): ID: 48050 Test: x86_64 universal install_delete_pata@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/48050

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: Broken dependencies: vim-syntastic

2016-11-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:55:48 PM CET Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >> First off, the guidelines have: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Noarch_with_unported_dependencies >> >> I've been assuming that you're talk

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 5:01 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Certainly. My point is that I don't feel that we are necessarily responsible > for > working around their antagonism either. Yes, it would be nice if Fedora > supported all hardware ever made. But the simple truth is that Apple tries >

Re: 2 packages seeking new point of contact

2016-11-14 Thread Bastien Nocera
- Original Message - > Greetings. > > Due to https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1639 we have orphaned 2 packages > that need a new point of contact: > > rpms/authd -- A RFC 1413 ident protocol daemon ( master f25 f24 f23 ) > rpms/python-gudev -- Python (PyGObject) bindings to the GUD

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 11/10/2016 10:09 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: FWIW, I did not really get the sense at all that people were voting for it as a blocker purely on the grounds that "we can get a fix in at the last minute". A one week slip might feel short to you, I dunno, but I think most release process people t

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 14 November 2016 at 12:06, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 11/10/2016 10:09 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > FWIW, I did not really get the sense at all that people were voting for > it as a blocker purely on the grounds that "we can get a fix in at the > last minute". A one week slip might feel s

Re: Announcement: Python 3 port of livecd-creator (was: Re: Announcement: DNF port of livecd-creator)

2016-11-14 Thread John Florian
On Sun, 2016-11-13 at 05:03 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Hi, FYI, Neal Gompa has now put up a Copr with the DNF + Python 3 version of the livecd-tools: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/ngompa/livecd-creator/ This is interesting news for me. I'm a long time user (in an employed capacity

Re: Announcement: Python 3 port of livecd-creator (was: Re: Announcement: DNF port of livecd-creator)

2016-11-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:17 PM, John Florian wrote: > On Sun, 2016-11-13 at 05:03 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Hi, > > FYI, Neal Gompa has now put up a Copr with the DNF + Python 3 version of the > livecd-tools: > https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/ngompa/livecd-creator/ > > > > This is i

Fedora Rawhide-20161114.n.0 compose check report

2016-11-14 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Cloud_base qcow2 x86_64 Atomic qcow2 x86_64 Cloud_base raw-xz x86_64 Atomic raw-xz x86_64 Kde raw-xz armhfp Failed openQA tests: 61/101 (x86_64), 16/17 (i386), 1/2 (arm) Old failures (same test failed in Rawhide-20161113.n.0): ID: 48111 Test: x86_64 Everything-boo

Re: Urgent call for testing: OS X dual boot

2016-11-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > Hi Adam, > > using a 2010 Macbook Pro installing F25 beta does work without errors. What's the filename of the ISO you're testing and how was the install media created? I don't know that it matters, but we should track it in case it's

Stuck PPC64 build

2016-11-14 Thread Jerry James
Is anybody around who can check what's going on with a PPC64 build that appears to be stuck? I noticed that fflas-ffpack has not built successfully on ppc64 recently, so I kicked off a scratch build last night to try to diagnose the problem. It finished fairly quickly on ppc64le, but is still go

Re: Stuck PPC64 build

2016-11-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:03:33PM -0700, Jerry James wrote: > Is anybody around who can check what's going on with a PPC64 build > that appears to be stuck? I noticed that fflas-ffpack has not built > successfully on ppc64 recently, so I kicked off a scratch build last > night to try to diagnose

Re: devel Digest, Vol 153, Issue 91

2016-11-14 Thread Ben Williams
I will give it a try I am sure i will be making a new batch of updated F24 lives later this week -- Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 12:35:37 -0500 From: Neal Gompa Subject: Re: Announcement: Python 3 port of livecd-creator (was: Re: Announcement: DNF port of livecd-

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2016-11-14 at 12:06 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 11/10/2016 10:09 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > FWIW, I did not really get the sense at all that people were voting > > for > >  it as a blocker purely on the grounds that "we can get a fix in at > > the > > last minute". A one week s

Re: Urgent call for testing: OS X dual boot

2016-11-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > And you do hit the bug with Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-25-1.2.iso ? Ahh OK so nevermind. Plus also this was a dual disk installation that almost certainly excluded the volume macOS is on, because it wouldn't have been selected as a des

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Fabio Alessandro Locati
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 08:01:07AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > So I assert that while support for Apple hardware is desirable, I don't > believe > that the lack of it should prevent us from shipping Fedora for all the other > hardware that we do support. Hi, That is exactly what I was tryi

Re: Stuck PPC64 build

2016-11-14 Thread Patrick マルタインアンドレアス Uiterwijk
Hi, > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:03:33PM -0700, Jerry James wrote: > > puiterwijk possibly. Yes. For now, you can just ping me on IRC, or create a ticket on https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure to get a PPC64(LE) instance on our Infrastructure cloud. In the near future, we hope to open up

Re: Announcement: Python 3 port of livecd-creator (was: Re: Announcement: DNF port of livecd-creator)

2016-11-14 Thread John Florian
On Mon, 2016-11-14 at 12:35 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:17 PM, John Florian mailto:john.flor...@dart.biz>> wrote: On Sun, 2016-11-13 at 05:03 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Hi, FYI, Neal Gompa has now put up a Copr with the DNF + Python 3 version of the livecd-tools: https

Re: Stuck PPC64 build

2016-11-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 12:03:33 -0700 Jerry James wrote: > Is anybody around who can check what's going on with a PPC64 build > that appears to be stuck? I noticed that fflas-ffpack has not built > successfully on ppc64 recently, so I kicked off a scratch build last > night to try to diagnose the

Re: Stuck PPC64 build

2016-11-14 Thread Dan Horák
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 12:03:33 -0700 Jerry James wrote: > Is anybody around who can check what's going on with a PPC64 build > that appears to be stuck? I noticed that fflas-ffpack has not built > successfully on ppc64 recently, so I kicked off a scratch build last > night to try to diagnose the

Re: Stuck PPC64 build

2016-11-14 Thread Dan Horák
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 12:03:33 -0700 Jerry James wrote: > Is anybody around who can check what's going on with a PPC64 build > that appears to be stuck? I noticed that fflas-ffpack has not built > successfully on ppc64 recently, so I kicked off a scratch build last > night to try to diagnose the

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Andreas Tunek
2016-11-14 14:01 GMT+01:00 Stephen Gallagher : > On 11/13/2016 01:46 PM, Ms Sanchez wrote: >> >> >> On 11/11/16 14:33, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >>> >>> Just to address this specifically, I am referring to Apple's penchant for >>> stuffing their machines with hardware from vendors that don't play we

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Andreas Tunek wrote: > 2016-11-14 14:01 GMT+01:00 Stephen Gallagher : >> On 11/13/2016 01:46 PM, Ms Sanchez wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 11/11/16 14:33, Stephen Gallagher wrote: Just to address this specifically, I am referring to Apple's penchant for stuff

Re: Touchpad data report

2016-11-14 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 07:40:21PM -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Hi Peter, > This is Luya Tshimbalanga, one of Fedora Design Team member. I am > sending you the data you need. thanks, much appreciated. I should've mentioned: please reply to me off-list with the data, no need to load up devel@

Re: Touchpad data needed - 5 min of effort

2016-11-14 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 10:45:10AM -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: > > [Disclaimer: sorry if you've seen this one before, I posted it to desktop@ > > but I only got one recording. That's not quite enough to call it a dataset, > > let alone do any analysis on it. Please do consider the minimal effort > >

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Andreas Tunek
2016-11-14 22:26 GMT+01:00 Josh Boyer : > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Andreas Tunek > wrote: >> 2016-11-14 14:01 GMT+01:00 Stephen Gallagher : >>> On 11/13/2016 01:46 PM, Ms Sanchez wrote: On 11/11/16 14:33, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Just to address this specificall

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2016-11-14 at 22:13 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote: > It not only means > that the work people did developing and testing the features where > wasted The change in question clearly was *not* tested as regards OS X, because the logic is very clearly broken and could not possibly have worked pro

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Andreas Tunek
2016-11-14 22:57 GMT+01:00 Adam Williamson : > On Mon, 2016-11-14 at 22:13 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote: >> It not only means >> that the work people did developing and testing the features where >> wasted > > The change in question clearly was *not* tested as regards OS X, > because the logic is ver

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > If the features were developed and tested during the creation of the > release, why would they fail criteria at the last minute? Bit rot. That particular code is being modified, and there's no testing on hardware affected by those changes befo

sphinx build crashing on ppc64

2016-11-14 Thread Orion Poplawski
Anyone else seeing errors like this? reading sources... [ 27%] api/astropy.modeling.functional_models.Sersic1D reading sources... [ 27%] api/astropy.modeling.functional_models.Sersic2D Sphinx Documentation subprocess failed with return code -11 I'm seeing it on ppc64 with python-astropy - filed h

Re: sphinx build crashing on ppc64

2016-11-14 Thread Dan Horák
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 15:57:14 -0700 Orion Poplawski wrote: > Anyone else seeing errors like this? > > reading sources... [ 27%] > api/astropy.modeling.functional_models.Sersic1D reading sources... > [ 27%] api/astropy.modeling.functional_models.Sersic2D Sphinx > Documentation subprocess failed wi

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 10:52:15PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote: > AFAIK, you have been able to install Fedora on Intel Macs since 2008 > (that was when I first tried). To not be able to install Fedora on > (Intel) Macs is a regression. > > > Also, there is a large difference between shipping a rele

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2016-11-14 at 14:30 -0800, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > If the features were developed and tested during the creation of the > > release, why would they fail criteria at the last minute? > > Bit rot. That particular code is being modified

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Modularity WG

2016-11-14 Thread jkurik
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Modularity WG on 2016-11-15 from 15:00:00 to 16:00:00 UTC At fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Meeting for the Modularity Working Group. More information available at: [Modularity Working Group wiki page](https://

Re: Should we stop stripping static libraries?

2016-11-14 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On Monday 14 November 2016 02:18 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > Do you suggest that gcc should invoke ld with -S, unless gcc was invoked > with some -g flags or -s? Ideal behaviour would be to make ld smarter about debuginfo but I don't know if that is doable, so this should do. >> Otherwise we need

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: Broken dependencies: vim-syntastic

2016-11-14 Thread Pavel Raiskup
On Monday, November 14, 2016 4:37:57 PM CET Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:55:48 PM CET Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >> First off, the guidelines have: > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#N

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Andreas Tunek
2016-11-15 1:06 GMT+01:00 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek : > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 10:52:15PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote: >> AFAIK, you have been able to install Fedora on Intel Macs since 2008 >> (that was when I first tried). To not be able to install Fedora on >> (Intel) Macs is a regression. >>

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2016-11-15 at 07:35 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote: > If something is in the release criteria I expect the feature to be > present in the release. If the feature in question has worked for ~20 > Fedora releases it is not my first priority to test, unless there is > specific communication otherw