It is actually documented here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F24_bugs#DNF_might_remove_essential_system_packages_if_you_used_PackageKit_.28GNOME_Software.2C_KDE_Apper.29_in_the_past
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= Proposed Self Contained Change: Koji Generates Installation Media =
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* Jay Greguske
Extend Koji with a new feature that allows users to create
installation media for various architectures.
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Hi,
Just noticed this change on rawhide...
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS#L29
* systemd-logind will now by default terminate user processes that are
part of the user session scope unit (session-XX.scope) when the user
logs out. This behavior is controlled by the Kill
OLD: Fedora-24-20160526.n.1
NEW: Fedora-24-20160527.n.0
= SUMMARY =
Added images:10
Dropped images: 6
Added packages: 0
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages: 0
Downgraded packages: 0
Size of added packages: 0.00 B
Size of dropped packages:0.00 B
Size of
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 5:51 AM, Dominique Martinet
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just noticed this change on rawhide...
> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS#L29
> * systemd-logind will now by default terminate user processes that are
> part of the user session scope unit (session-XX.sco
On 05/27/2016 11:51 AM, Dominique Martinet wrote:
> Just noticed this change on rawhide...
> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS#L29
> * systemd-logind will now by default terminate user processes that are
> part of the user session scope unit (session-XX.scope) when the user
Missing expected images:
Workstation live i386
Cloud_base raw-xz x86_64
Xfce raw-xz armhfp
Cloud_base raw-xz i386
Atomic raw-xz x86_64
Minimal raw-xz armhfp
Workstation live x86_64
Failed openQA tests: 8/66 (x86_64), 4/16 (i386)
ID: 19199 Test: x86_64 Everything-boot-iso install_default
UR
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 11:51:42AM +0200, Dominique Martinet wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just noticed this change on rawhide...
> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS#L29
> * systemd-logind will now by default terminate user processes that are
> part of the user session scope unit (sessi
Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said:
> Also note that running jobs in a systemd service has advantages on the
> server: better accounting, more transparency, logs are easier to read.
> The (old) default of allowing left-over session processes to live on
> seems especially bad on a s
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 08:51:23AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> This breaks the storage of ssh-agent credentials for te one-time
> enabling of SSH credentials for access on running hosts.
You mean you start ssh-agent somewhere during the first login and then
access it from any process from f
On 27/05/16 14:02, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
It's two lines: [Login]\nKillUserProcesses=no. But please consider
switching to the new mode of using systemd-run instead.
How do I run screen with systemd-run?
I tried "systemd-run --user -t screen" but as soon as I detach from the
scree
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 08:09:33AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said:
> > Also note that running jobs in a systemd service has advantages on the
> > server: better accounting, more transparency, logs are easier to read.
> > The (old) default of allowing
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 02:16:45PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 27/05/16 14:02, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> >It's two lines: [Login]\nKillUserProcesses=no. But please consider
> >switching to the new mode of using systemd-run instead.
>
> How do I run screen with systemd-run?
>
> I t
Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said:
> You still can start a one-off task under screen, you just need to
> invoke it in one the different ways described in
> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-run.html#Examples
This should not be made a default unless programs
On Fri, 27.05.16 08:09, Chris Adams (li...@cmadams.net) wrote:
> Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said:
> > Also note that running jobs in a systemd service has advantages on the
> > server: better accounting, more transparency, logs are easier to read.
> > The (old) default of allow
Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said:
> I am pretty sure we should consider it our duty as Fedora developers
> to improve the Linux platform, and I am pretty sure that properly
> cleaning up processes on logout is a step towards that, not against
> it.
When you "clean up" by killing things t
On 27/05/16 14:19, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 02:16:45PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
On 27/05/16 14:02, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
It's two lines: [Login]\nKillUserProcesses=no. But please consider
switching to the new mode of using systemd-run instead.
H
On 27/05/16 15:25, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said:
I am pretty sure we should consider it our duty as Fedora developers
to improve the Linux platform, and I am pretty sure that properly
cleaning up processes on logout is a step towards that, not against
it.
When
Once upon a time, Tom Hughes said:
> On 27/05/16 15:25, Chris Adams wrote:
> >When you "clean up" by killing things that are designed to run after
> >logout, you are being over-zealous. It is incumbent upon you to fix
> >your cleanup methods to handle this case, not the thousands of users
> >to c
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 03:26:45PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 27/05/16 14:19, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 02:16:45PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
> >>On 27/05/16 14:02, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >>
> >>>It's two lines: [Login]\nKillUserProcesses=no. But p
On 27/05/16 15:48, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 03:26:45PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
>
>> Which works fine except that the scope remains even after the screen
>> has exited...
>
> Hm, it shouldn't I think. Seems to work fine here. How
> are you running the command and
On 27/05/16 16:04, Tom Hughes wrote:
On 27/05/16 15:48, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 03:26:45PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
Which works fine except that the scope remains even after the screen
has exited...
Hm, it shouldn't I think. Seems to work fine here. How
are
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 09:36:58AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Tom Hughes said:
> > On 27/05/16 15:25, Chris Adams wrote:
> > >When you "clean up" by killing things that are designed to run after
> > >logout, you are being over-zealous. It is incumbent upon you to fix
> > >your
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 27/05/16 15:48, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 03:26:45PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
>>
>>> Which works fine except that the scope remains even after the screen
>>> has exited...
>>
>> Hm, it shouldn't I think. Se
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 08:09:33AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
>> Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said:
>> > Also note that running jobs in a systemd service has advantages on the
>> > server: better accounting, more transparency, logs are easier t
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
>
> Either the scope code is buggy or has IMO very strange behavior:
>
> $ systemd-run --user --scope echo foo
> Running scope as unit run-4980.scope.
> foo
>
> $ systemctl --user status run-4980.scope
> ● run-4980.scope - /usr/bin/echo foo
On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2016 16:42:05 +0200
> Dominique Martinet wrote:
>
> ...snip...
>
>> The question is, should fedora's lists be configured to rewrite the
>> from ? I'm pretty sure mailman 3.1 can handle it, if we want it to.
>>
>> I haven't seen
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 04:06:36PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 27/05/16 16:04, Tom Hughes wrote:
> >On 27/05/16 15:48, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >>On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 03:26:45PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
> >>
> >>>Which works fine except that the scope remains even after the screen
On Fri, 27 May 2016 15:54:34 +
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> The problem was that samba-client-libs was dependent on
> libsystemd-daemon.so, which has been replaced by libsystemd.so.
> It was recompiled on the 23rd, but it's not available in rawhide.
> Something strange is going on her
Once upon a time, Andrew Lutomirski said:
> Unfortunately, gmail and others are blazing ahead with breaking
> everything before ARC will be ready.
To be fair, Google is just enforcing what others ask them to enforce.
Yahoo is the one that is setting a DMARC record that says to reject
messages wit
On Fri, 2016-05-27 at 15:54 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> The problem was that samba-client-libs was dependent on
> libsystemd-daemon.so, which has been replaced by libsystemd.so.
> It was recompiled on the 23rd, but it's not available in rawhide.
> Something strange is going on he
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 09:05:04AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> It's easy to know when this is the case, as the 'compose report' mails
> are sent to this very list...there is always a 'compose report' when a
> compose completes, so if you don't see one for a few days, it means
> composes are fai
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Andrew Lutomirski said:
>> Unfortunately, gmail and others are blazing ahead with breaking
>> everything before ARC will be ready.
>
> To be fair, Google is just enforcing what others ask them to enforce.
> Yahoo is the one t
Dominique Martinet wrote:
> Just noticed this change on rawhide...
> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS#L29
> * systemd-logind will now by default terminate user processes that are
> part of the user session scope unit (session-XX.scope) when the user
> logs out. This be
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Charalampos Stratakis wrote:
> It is actually documented here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F24_bugs#DNF_might_remove_essential_system_packages_if_you_used_PackageKit_.28GNOME_Software.2C_KDE_Apper.29_in_the_past
>
>
Thanks, I updated Bug 1259865 with
On Fri, 2016-05-27 at 18:15 +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> Dominique Martinet wrote:
> >
> > Just noticed this change on rawhide...
> > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS#L29
> > * systemd-logind will now by default terminate user processes
> > that are
> > part of the user
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 06:15:08PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> Dominique Martinet wrote:
> > Just noticed this change on rawhide...
> > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS#L29
> > * systemd-logind will now by default terminate user processes that are
> > part of the user se
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:58 AM Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Fri, 27.05.16 08:09, Chris Adams (li...@cmadams.net) wrote:
>
> > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said:
> > > Also note that running jobs in a systemd service has advantages on the
> > > server: better accounting, more
Hi all,
Tuesday May 31st 2016 is an important day on the Fedora 24 schedule[1], with
significant cut-offs.
Tuesday is the Final Freeze[2]. This means that only packages which
fix accepted blocker or freeze exception bugs[3][4] will be marked as
'stable' and included in the Final composes. Other
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 06:15:08PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
>> Dominique Martinet wrote:
>> > Just noticed this change on rawhide...
>> > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS#L29
>> > * systemd-logind will
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 08:09:33AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
>> Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said:
>> > Also note that running jobs in a systemd service has advantages on the
>> > server: better accounting, mor
Missing expected images:
Kde live i386
Server dvd i386
Server boot x86_64
Server dvd x86_64
Kde live x86_64
Cloud_base raw-xz x86_64
Cloud_base raw-xz i386
Server boot i386
Atomic raw-xz x86_64
Kde raw-xz armhfp
Minimal raw-xz armhfp
Failed openQA tests: 2/6 (x86_64), 1/1 (i386)
ID: 19280
perl-Data-Alias has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Data-Alias-1.20-2.fc24.x86_64 requires libperl.so.5.22()(64bit)
perl-Data-Alias-1.20-2.fc24.x86_64 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.22.1)
On i386:
perl-Data-Alias-1.20-2.fc24.i686 requires libperl.s
perl-TryCatch has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-TryCatch-1.003002-9.fc24.x86_64 requires libperl.so.5.22()(64bit)
perl-TryCatch-1.003002-9.fc24.x86_64 requires
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.22.1)
On i386:
perl-TryCatch-1.003002-9.fc24.i686 requires libp
On 27 May 2016 17:29, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Charalampos Stratakis <
cstra...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> It is actually documented here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F24_bugs#DNF_might_remove_essential_system_packages_if_you_used_PackageKit_.28GNOME_S
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 11:15 AM, James Hogarth
wrote:
> On the bug you said a dnf reinstall ... that's not the best thing to do...
> you need to dnf mark installed as per the earlier comments on the bug
Wouldn't the reinstall accomplish that? I agree, the solution in the
release notes is conc
On Fri, 27 May 2016, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 09:05:04AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
It's easy to know when this is the case, as the 'compose report' mails
are sent to this very list...there is always a 'compose report' when a
compose completes, so if you don'
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 08:51:23AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> This breaks the storage of ssh-agent credentials for te one-time
>> enabling of SSH credentials for access on running hosts.
>
> You mean you start ssh-agent
On Fri, 27 May 2016, Chris Murphy wrote:
It seems to me systemd should be able to know the difference between
a program that's zombie or unresponsive but isn't doing anything or is
unresponsive but is doing something; and if not then some way for
programs to say "hey wait just a minute, I need
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Rich Mattes wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 06:15:08PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> >> Dominique Martinet wrote:
> >> > Just noticed this change on rawhide...
> >> > https://github.com/
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2016-05-27)
===
Meeting started by paragan at 16:01:04 UTC. The full logs are available
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On 27 May 2016 19:25, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 11:15 AM, James Hogarth
wrote:
>>
>> On the bug you said a dnf reinstall ... that's not the best thing to
do... you need to dnf mark installed as per the earlier comments on the bug
>
>
> Wouldn't the reinstall accomplish
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