Re: Fedora Rawhide 20151216 compose check report

2015-12-18 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 16.12.2015 v 23:07 Adam Williamson napsal(a): > might be a good idea to keep that gsettings-desktop-schemas > build out of rawhide until we get a shell release > since the old shell won't start with the new schemas If there is so tight relation between gsettings-desktop-schemas and gnome-she

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Glibc locale subpackaging

2015-12-18 Thread Vít Ondruch
Why there are no lang specific subpackages? Then English could be recomended and the rest suggested and Anaconda would install the appropriate language subpackage during installation. Vít Dne 18.12.2015 v 08:56 Jan Kurik napsal(a): > = Proposed System Wide Change: Glibc locale subpackaging = >

Re: orphaning radiusclient-ng

2015-12-18 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
Hello Scott,  I saw that you assumed maintainership of radiusclient-ng in devel. This is a dead package since a decade now which has been replaced by other software. Please orphan it so that it will be dropped from fedora. If you have software which relies on it please use one of the libraries repl

Re: no systemd in containers: Requires -> Recommends

2015-12-18 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > It doesn't help that there doesn't seem to be a way to use systemd's > own container technologies to do these things in a more lightweight, > yet compatible fashion. nspawn currently only does OS style > containers, where you have another PID 1 inside. Hmm? I have a fedora 23 container o

Re: no systemd in containers: Requires -> Recommends

2015-12-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 17.12.15 22:22, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote: > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 02:35:03PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > > "HH" == Harald Hoyer writes: > > > > HH> The preset enablement would be missing. > > > > Couldn't systemd simply apply presets when it is insta

rawhide report: 20151218 changes

2015-12-18 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Dec 18 05:15:02 UTC 2015 Broken deps for i386 -- [IQmol] IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_serialization.so.1.58.0 IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_iostreams.so.1.58.0 IQmol-2.3.0

grub2 password and docs

2015-12-18 Thread Reindl Harald
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2#Setting_a_password_for_interactive_edit_mode _ If you wish to password-protect GRUB2's interactive edit mode but you do not want to require users to enter a password to do a plain, simple, ordinary boot, create /etc/grub.d/01_use

Re: grub2 password and docs

2015-12-18 Thread Reindl Harald
besides that the wiki is completly outdated "grub2-setpassword" only works on english machines https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1292830 if /etc/grub.d/01_users would containa comment that "/boot/grub2/user.cfg" (who knows prefix just staring at the source of that file) just needs t

Re: no systemd in containers: Requires -> Recommends

2015-12-18 Thread Neil Horman
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:18:10PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 17.12.2015 um 22:11 schrieb Neil Horman: > >On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:04:48PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > >>Am 17.12.2015 um 22:00 schrieb Neil Horman: > >>>On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 03:39:17PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: >

Re: python-mongoengine maintainer absent

2015-12-18 Thread Randy Barlow
Matthias Runge wrote: > Eduardo participated at the latam-ambassadors-meeting a few days > ago[1]. His nickname is echevemaster. Hi Matthias, thanks for the tip! I had actually been trying to see if I could catch him while he was online for a while, but we don't seem to be online during the same h

Re: no systemd in containers: Requires -> Recommends

2015-12-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.12.2015 um 15:39 schrieb Neil Horman: On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:18:10PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: What I hear you saying is that on a system that has nothing better to do, the primary monitoring process wakes up periodically to check on various system aspects (cron jobs, journal rotat

Re: no systemd in containers: Requires -> Recommends

2015-12-18 Thread Neil Horman
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 01:27:33AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 04:13:06PM -0800, Brendan Conoboy wrote: > > On 12/17/2015 01:43 AM, Harald Hoyer wrote: > > >For docker containers, or containers, which don't want systemd, the current > > >"Requires: systemd" i

Re: no systemd in containers: Requires -> Recommends

2015-12-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.12.2015 um 15:44 schrieb Neil Horman: On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 01:27:33AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: For some packages "reduced capacity" because of lack of systemd.rpm means "doesn't even get started as expected" or "crashes on start with permission errors" or "cannot writ

Re: python-mongoengine maintainer absent

2015-12-18 Thread Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado
Hi Randy, I just spoke with the maintainer, seems that just needs a rebuild in py3; sorry for not answer this month, I have been a bit disconnected due to personal errands. I will make you maintainer, fas? On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Randy Barlow wrote: > Matthias Runge wrote: >> Eduardo par

Re: no systemd in containers: Requires -> Recommends

2015-12-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.12.2015 um 16:36 schrieb g...@cfware.com: I have no experience with containers so forgive me if I'm missing something. Why couldn't you just have a 'microinit.rpm' in a separate dnf repo, put 'Obsoletes: systemd' into that package? This way people who are building hundreds of contain

Re: no systemd in containers: Requires -> Recommends

2015-12-18 Thread git
I have no experience with containers so forgive me if I'm missing something. Why couldn't you just have a 'microinit.rpm' in a separate dnf repo, put 'Obsoletes: systemd' into that package? This way people who are building hundreds of containers that do not require systemd can use the repo con

Re: no systemd in containers: Requires -> Recommends

2015-12-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 03:36:21PM -, g...@cfware.com wrote: > I have no experience with containers so forgive me if I'm missing > something. Why couldn't you just have a 'microinit.rpm' in a separate > dnf repo, put 'Obsoletes: systemd' into that package? This way people > who are building hun

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Glibc locale subpackaging

2015-12-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 10:20:47AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Why there are no lang specific subpackages? Then English could be > recomended and the rest suggested and Anaconda would install the > appropriate language subpackage during installation. That's the suggestion, isn't it? See: > > It

Fedora Rawhide 20151218 compose check report

2015-12-18 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Kde disk raw armhfp Cloud_atomic disk raw x86_64 Images in this compose but not Rawhide 20151217: Design_suite live x86_64 Workstation live x86_64 Workstation live i386 Soas live x86_64 Kde live i386 Scientific_kde live x86_64 Workstation disk raw armhfp Scientific_kde l

Re: Fedora Rawhide 20151218 compose check report

2015-12-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2015-12-18 at 16:18 +, Fedora compose checker wrote: >  > Failed openQA tests: 2 of 61 > > ID: 1261 Test: i386 kde_live default_install > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1261 > ID: 1259 Test: x86_64 kde_live default_install > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/

Re: python-mongoengine maintainer absent

2015-12-18 Thread Randy Barlow
Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado wrote: > Hi Randy, I just spoke with the maintainer, seems that just needs a > rebuild in py3; sorry for not answer this month, I have been a bit > disconnected due to personal errands. I will make you maintainer, fas? Hey Eduardo! I am very pleased to get in tou

[INPUT REQUESTED] Fedora Policy on generated code

2015-12-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please keep responses on the devel@ list. CCed to the Council list for visibility and discussion of how this fits with our "Freedom" foundation. == Premise == Some upstream distribute tarballs that include code and content that has been generated at

Re: grub2 password and docs

2015-12-18 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > besides that the wiki is completly outdated "grub2-setpassword" only works on > english machines https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1292830 > > if /etc/grub.d/01_users would containa comment that "/boot/grub2/user.cfg" > (who kno

Re: grub2 password and docs

2015-12-18 Thread Eric Griffith
Grub2-mkconfig works fine on F23. Maybe not for complex operations but for general modifications to /etc/default/grub it creates a perfectly working grub.cfg On Dec 18, 2015 14:31, "Andrew Lutomirski" wrote: > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Reindl Harald > wrote: > > > > besides that the wiki

Re: [INPUT REQUESTED] Fedora Policy on generated code

2015-12-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
I think that there are few "classes" of pregenerated code (depending on what it is used for) that deserve completely different handling. 0. Build scripts 1. Documentation, artwork, fonts, and other "content" 2. Anything code that is executed by users For clases 0. and 1. we have to be able to ver

Re: grub2 password and docs

2015-12-18 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Eric Griffith wrote: > Grub2-mkconfig works fine on F23. Maybe not for complex operations but for > general modifications to /etc/default/grub it creates a perfectly working > grub.cfg Sure, but do we support grub2-mkconfig? If yes, why don't we use it for real.

Re: grub2 password and docs

2015-12-18 Thread Eric Griffith
Fedora, officially, supports Grubby. There was a different thread saying "This is silly, why are we sticking with grubby?" and what I got out of that thread was: there's some use case that grub2-mkconfig doesnt support, but that grubby does, and Fedora wants to support that use case. Frankly, the f

Re: grub2 password and docs

2015-12-18 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Eric Griffith wrote: > Fedora, officially, supports Grubby. There was a different thread saying > "This is silly, why are we sticking with grubby?" and what I got out of that > thread was: there's some use case that grub2-mkconfig doesnt support, but > that grubby

Re: [INPUT REQUESTED] Fedora Policy on generated code

2015-12-18 Thread Lars Seipel
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 02:13:54PM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > 2) Do we require that whatever tools are necessary to generate this > code is packaged in Fedora (with all the legal and policy requirements > that this implies)? If we do not, do we require that the code used by > upstream is fre

Re: Fedora Rawhide 20151218 compose check report

2015-12-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On December 18, 2015 9:36:02 AM PST, "Marek Doležel" wrote: >Tried to boot live-workstation on real hw and got kernel panic, same >for >qemu > > > >Best regards, >Marek Dolezel > >On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Adam Williamson >> wrote: > >> On Fri, 2015-12-18 at 16:18 +, Fedora compose che

Re: grub2 password and docs

2015-12-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.12.2015 um 20:30 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: besides that the wiki is completly outdated "grub2-setpassword" only works on english machines https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1292830 if /etc/grub.d/01_users would containa

Re: [INPUT REQUESTED] Fedora Policy on generated code

2015-12-18 Thread Ian Kent
On Sat, 2015-12-19 at 00:34 +0100, Lars Seipel wrote: > There may be reasonable exceptions, but I'd consider them pretty > rare. > Even outside of the context of licensing, I think the concept of > "preferred form for modification" is a useful one here. That's what > should be in the SRPM and shoul