Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 22.9.2015 v 00:00 Owen Taylor napsal(a): > On Thu, 2015-09-17 at 23:26 +0200, Germano Massullo wrote: >> Il 17/09/2015 21:13, Andrew Lutomirski ha scritto: >>> To clarify: did you get blasted by music or by video conference >>> sounds? If the music volume got louder, then it sounds like either

package naming question: IT++

2015-09-22 Thread Marco Driusso
Hi all, I have a question about the right name to give to a package of the IT++ library (package review request here -> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1264686, any review - and also sponsorship, I need one! - is welcome). Some info: - the actual name of the library is 'IT++', ac

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-22 Thread Matej Stuchlik
- Original Message - > From: "Matthew Miller" > To: "Fedora Development List" > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:07:40 PM > Subject: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat > > Fedora-Cloud-Base-20141203-21.x86_64.qcow2: 151M > Fedora-Cloud-Base-23_Be

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-22 Thread drago01
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Matej Stuchlik wrote: > [...] > When it comes to python3, one way to shave off ~9MiB from python3-libs, and > possibly quite a bit more overall, would be to not install both optimized and > unoptimized bytecode, as we do now, but just the unoptimized one (the > p

Re: package naming question: IT++

2015-09-22 Thread Igor Gnatenko
I think you want to use just plain itpp On Tue, Sep 22, 2015, 10:40 AM Marco Driusso wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a question about the right name to give to a package of the IT++ > library (package review request here -> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1264686, any review - and > al

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-22 Thread Matej Stuchlik
- Original Message - > From: "drago01" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 11:20:27 AM > Subject: Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal > anything) bloat > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Matej Stuchlik wro

Re: package naming question: IT++

2015-09-22 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 10:40:13AM +0200, Marco Driusso wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a question about the right name to give to a package of the IT++ > library (package review request here -> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1264686, any review - and also > sponsorship, I need one! - i

Re: package naming question: IT++

2015-09-22 Thread Christopher Meng
In line with tarball name, it's better to use itpp. No +1 for libitpp if itpp had been there for several years. -- Yours sincerely, Christopher Meng http://awk.io -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread Bastien Nocera
- Original Message - > On Mon, 2015-09-21 at 18:00 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > > There is danger to the ears if an application assumes that 100% > > volume > > is a safe volume and blindly sets its volume to 100% without user > > input. But that only affects that application - one applica

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread kendell clark
hi I'm ambivolent on the subject. If flat volumes become a problem, I know how to turn them off. However, I think because of all the complaints here by people who have a very good track record and don't complain often, this seems to bear out what I've been trying to say. That this should be fixed i

Re: OpenMesh soname bump in rawhide

2015-09-22 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 21/09/15 17:34 -0700, Susi Lehtola wrote: Hi, I'm updating OpenMesh in rawhide to version 4.1, which bumps the soname. Only IQmol seems to use OpenMesh, which I'm rebuilding soon after. IQmol is currently broken on rawhide and can't be built against Boost 1.59, see https://github.com/nut

Re: package naming question: IT++

2015-09-22 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 22/09/15 10:40 +0200, Marco Driusso wrote: So I think we have two options: 1) use 'itpp' as the name of the package, which corresponds to the include dir name, but not to the lib file name (libitpp.so); in this All libraries start with "lib" but that doesn't mean the package that provides

F-23 Branched report: 20150922 changes

2015-09-22 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Sep 22 07:15:03 UTC 2015 Broken deps for armhfp -- [apache-scout] apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:uddi-ws) apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-22 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 5:36 AM, Matej Stuchlik wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "drago01" > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" < > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 11:20:27 AM > > Subject: Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread drago01
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Owen Taylor wrote: > On Thu, 2015-09-17 at 23:26 +0200, Germano Massullo wrote: >> Il 17/09/2015 21:13, Andrew Lutomirski ha scritto: >> > >> > To clarify: did you get blasted by music or by video conference >> > sounds? If the music volume got louder, then it so

Re: package naming question: IT++

2015-09-22 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On 22/09/15 10:40 +0200, Marco Driusso wrote: > >> So I think we have two options: >> 1) use 'itpp' as the name of the package, which corresponds to the >> include dir name, but not to the lib file name (libitpp.so); in this >> > > All lib

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-22 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 5:36 AM, Matej Stuchlik wrote: >> >> Also note that it's possibly not just 9MB. For instance python3-boto, also >> on this list, would >> save 4.7MB, python3-pip 2.9MB. In general most python packages could go >> down in

rawhide report: 20150922 changes

2015-09-22 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Sep 22 05:15:03 UTC 2015 Broken deps for i386 -- [IQmol] IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_serialization.so.1.58.0 IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_iostreams.so.1.58.0 IQmol-2.3.0

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-22 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Tuesday, 22 September 2015 at 03:26, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Matthew Miller > wrote: [...] > > But *that* said, the current packaging means that grub2 adds 70MB on > > disk — about 12% of the entire cloud image. I'm not saying grub2 is > > evil, just that this is

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2015-09-21)

2015-09-22 Thread Michael J Gruber
> The following packages require above mentioned packages: > Depending on: flickcurl (1), status change: 2015-09-11 (1 weeks ago) > darktable (maintained by: madko, germano) > darktable-1.6.8-2.fc24.i686 requires libflickcurl.so.0 > darktable-1.6.8-2.fc24.src requi

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-22 Thread Matej Stuchlik
- Original Message - > From: "Ville Skyttä" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 1:36:09 PM > Subject: Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal > anything) bloat > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Neal Gompa wr

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2015-09-21)

2015-09-22 Thread Christopher Meng
I released ownership of flickcurl, because I don't use it anymore. I still hold epel branches, if someone wants to step in, welcome. -- Yours sincerely, Christopher Meng http://awk.io -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fe

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-22 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Matej Stuchlik wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Ville Skyttä" >> >> Also, be careful with measuring space savings when working with *.pyo. >> It is a common case that *.pyc and *.pyo are identical, and when they >> are rpmbuild already hardlinks the

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-22 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Ville Skyttä wrote: > > BTW I just had a peek into some Arch Linux Python 3.5 packages, and it > seems they contain *no* identical *.pyc and corresponding *.opt-1.pyc > files. This is bad news wrt the hardlinking. I haven't found any > *.opt-2.pyc files to play wit

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-22 Thread Matej Stuchlik
- Original Message - > From: "Ville Skyttä" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 2:43:33 PM > Subject: Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal > anything) bloat > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Matej Stuchlik

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-22 Thread Matej Stuchlik
- Original Message - > From: "Ville Skyttä" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 3:03:24 PM > Subject: Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal > anything) bloat > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Ville Skyttä wr

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 05:31 -0500, kendell clark wrote: > hi > I'm ambivolent on the subject. If flat volumes become a problem, I > know > how to turn them off. However, I think because of all the complaints > here by people who have a very good track record and don't complain > often, this seems t

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 07:26:52PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > For the cloud image, extlinux actually works. The problem pops up with > any image intended for baremetal whre UEFI Secure Boot support is > needed, and right now GRUB2 does and extlinux doesn't, so any "atomic" > image would need GRUB

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 05:07:58AM -0400, Matej Stuchlik wrote: > When it comes to python3, one way to shave off ~9MiB from > python3-libs, and possibly quite a bit more overall, would be to not > install both optimized and unoptimized bytecode, as we do now, but > just the unoptimized one (the per

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 17.09.15 20:59, Germano Massullo (germano.massu...@gmail.com) wrote: > Today I had a scary experience with the audio of my computer. > I was listening to music with Amarok, using my headphones... The KMix > volume level was ~ 35%. When I logged into a video conference > application, the vo

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread Germano Massullo
Il 22/09/2015 03:43, Rex Dieter ha scritto: > Germano Massullo wrote: > >> Il 21/09/2015 21:45, Thomas Daede ha scritto: >>> Is there currently a bug open for this? I'd rather it not get lost. >> I think that a FESCo ticket would be more appropriate. > I think it would be premature to appeal to FES

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 15:51 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 17.09.15 20:59, Germano Massullo (germano.massu...@gmail.com) > wrote: > > > Today I had a scary experience with the audio of my computer. > > I was listening to music with Amarok, using my headphones... The > > KMix > > volume

Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-22 Thread Dennis Gilmore
Fedora 23 Beta Release Announcement === The Fedora 23 Beta is here, right on schedule for our planned October final release! Want to help make Fedora 23 be the best release ever, or just want to get a sneak peek? Download the prerelease from our Get Fedora site and

Fedora 23 Branched 20150922 compose check report

2015-09-22 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Cloud disk raw i386 Cloud disk raw x86_64 Cloud_atomic disk raw x86_64 Generic boot i386 Generic boot x86_64 No images in this compose but not 23 Branched 20150921 Images in 23 Branched 20150921 but not this: Cloud disk raw i386 Cloud_atomic disk raw x86_64 Generic boot

Re: Trying to contact package maintainer for boinc-client

2015-09-22 Thread Laurence
Thanks I have tried to contact him too but no response so far. On 21.09.2015 12:23, Germano Massullo wrote: The actual BOINC working mantainer is Mattia Verga -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http

Re: Additional information in email about Koji garbage collection?

2015-09-22 Thread Dave Johansen
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:19:46 -0700 > Dave Johansen wrote: > > > Would it be possible to add more information to the emails sent to > > notify about Koji Garbage Collection ( > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Koji/GarbageCollection )? > > I wo

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-22 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Matej Stuchlik wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Ville Skyttä" >> >> Managed to fiddle around some more and looks like the above is a false >> concern, many *.pyc, *.opt-1.pyc and *.opt-2.pyc are identical. >> So, https://github.com/rpm-software-mana

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-22 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > Fedora 23 Beta Release Announcement > === > > The Fedora 23 Beta is here, right on schedule for our planned > October final release! Want to help make Fedora 23 be the best > release ever, or just want to get

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-22 Thread Richard Hughes
On 22 September 2015 at 16:16, Neal Gompa wrote: > Looks like Fedora 23 is shaping up to be an exciting release! It does, but not exciting enough to use HTML email. Can you switch your email client to use text emails please. Richard. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://a

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-22 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 22.9.2015 v 17:30 Richard Hughes napsal(a): > On 22 September 2015 at 16:16, Neal Gompa wrote: >> Looks like Fedora 23 is shaping up to be an exciting release! > It does, but not exciting enough to use HTML email. Can you switch > your email client to use text emails please. > > Richard. Cont

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-22 Thread Eric Griffith
Suggested way to upgrade from 22 to 23? Fresh install? Fedup? Change release ver for dnf? Did the new dnf upgrade tool get packaged? On Sep 22, 2015 11:49 AM, "Vít Ondruch" wrote: > Dne 22.9.2015 v 17:30 Richard Hughes napsal(a): > > On 22 September 2015 at 16:16, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> Looks l

Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta for AARCH64 and POWER!

2015-09-22 Thread Peter Robinson
Fedora 23 Beta Release Announcement for AARCH64 and POWER architectures === The Fedora 23 Beta is here for AARCH64 and POWER architectures, right on schedule for our planned October final release! Want to help make Fedora 23 be th

Re: Trying to contact package maintainer for boinc-client

2015-09-22 Thread Mattia Verga
Il 22/09/2015 16:12, Laurence ha scritto: Thanks I have tried to contact him too but no response so far. On 21.09.2015 12:23, Germano Massullo wrote: The actual BOINC working mantainer is Mattia Verga I'm no more a maintainer of boinc-client. And I didn't received any email from you... I a

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-22 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 12:13 -0400, Eric Griffith wrote: > Suggested way to upgrade from 22 to 23? Fresh install? Fedup? Change > release ver  for dnf? Did the new dnf upgrade tool get packaged? `dnf install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade` `dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=23` `dnf system-upgra

Fedora Rawhide 20150922 compose check report

2015-09-22 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Images in this compose but not Rawhide 20150921: Robotics live x86_64 Robotics live i386 No images in Rawhide 20150921 but not this. Failed openQA tests: 49 of 52 ID: 3285Test: x86_64 workstation_live default_install@uefi ID: 3284Test: x86_64 worksta

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-22 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 22/09/15 18:02, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 12:13 -0400, Eric Griffith wrote: >> Suggested way to upgrade from 22 to 23? Fresh install? Fedup? Change >> release ver for dnf? Did the new dnf upgrade tool get packaged? > > `dnf install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade` > `dnf syste

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 06:21:00PM +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote: > I just used dnf distro-sync as per: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_22_-.3E_Fedora_23 > > This went fine, and I'm now typing this on F23 beta. > What are the main advantages of system-upgrade? > Sho

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 09:56 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 15:51 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Thu, 17.09.15 20:59, Germano Massullo (germano.massu...@gmail.com) > > wrote: > > > > > Today I had a scary experience with the audio of my computer. > > > I was listenin

Re: grub2 wiki page

2015-09-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > On Mon, 2015-09-21 at 19:20 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> 2. Also under "install the bootloader files" it lists the shim >> package, but this should be shim-signed in order to include the >> shim.efi that's been signed by the Microsoft si

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-22 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 13:33 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 06:21:00PM +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote: > > I just used dnf distro-sync as per: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_22 > > _-.3E_Fedora_23 > > > > This went fine, and I'm now typing t

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 01:18:30PM -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 13:33 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 06:21:00PM +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote: > > > I just used dnf distro-sync as per: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yu

Re: Additional information in email about Koji garbage collection?

2015-09-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:13:45 -0700 Dave Johansen wrote: > Can I open a ticket requesting this feature enhancement? If so, is > https://fedorahosted.org/koji/wiki the right place? Sure. kevin pgpgx7prf6ern.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproj

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread kendell clark
hi If this is true, then why have I had no luck getting PA developers to do anything? Not to complain, but I've been on their irc channel several time. If I get a response at all, it's to shrug and tell me to bug whatever app it is that's misbehaving. This is all well and good if the app is both fr

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread kendell clark
hi Just a polite request. I'm having trouble following the thread because there are so many intermingled responses, with different bits of it quoted and commented on. Would everyone mind putting their responses either on the top or the bottom of the message? Top would be better for me, but I also d

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 16:31 -0500, kendell clark wrote: > hi > Just a polite request. I'm having trouble following the thread because > there are so many intermingled responses, with different bits of it > quoted and commented on. Would everyone mind putting their responses > either on the top or t

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread kendell clark
hi Oops? My apologies. I didn't mean to accuse anyone in particular of causing my problem. It makes it easier if someone either top or bottom posts, but I'm certainly not going to insist on it. I also need to figure out how to just reply to the list, rather than to the person who sent the message a

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2015 um 23:58 schrieb kendell clark: Oops? My apologies. I didn't mean to accuse anyone in particular of causing my problem. It makes it easier if someone either top or bottom posts no it does not, nobody needs the whole thread in each message see my reponse - the context is very cle

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 18:21 +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote: > On 22/09/15 18:02, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 12:13 -0400, Eric Griffith wrote: > > > Suggested way to upgrade from 22 to 23? Fresh install? Fedup? > > > Change > > > release ver for dnf? Did the new dnf upgrade tool

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 13:33 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 06:21:00PM +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote: > > I just used dnf distro-sync as per: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_22 > > _-.3E_Fedora_23 > > > > This went fine, and I'm now typing t

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 16:58 -0500, kendell clark wrote: > hi > Oops? My apologies. I didn't mean to accuse anyone in particular of > causing my problem. It makes it easier if someone either top or bottom > posts, but I'm certainly not going to insist on it. I also need to > figure out how to just r

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-22 Thread Richard Shaw
On an related note... I just tried doing a "dnf --enablerepo=updates testing update fedup" on my Fedora 21 box and fedup was replaced by the dnf upgrade plugin so the information at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading Is no longer correct, the dnf upgrade method should be used to upgrade F

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 17:38 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > On an related note... > > I just tried doing a "dnf --enablerepo=updates testing update fedup" > on my > Fedora 21 box and fedup was replaced by the dnf upgrade plugin so the > information at: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading >

Heads up: glibmm/gtkmm now requires -std=c++11

2015-09-22 Thread Kalev Lember
Hi, A quick heads up to anybody who might run into cryptic build errors when building apps that use glibmm/gtkmm: Latest glibmm/gtkmm stack in rawhide and F23 now uses C++11 features in header files. This means when building other programs that use those headers, the C++ compiler needs to be in C

Re: Heads up: glibmm/gtkmm now requires -std=c++11

2015-09-22 Thread Mamoru TASAKA
Kalev Lember wrote on 09/23/2015 09:35 AM: Hi, A quick heads up to anybody who might run into cryptic build errors when building apps that use glibmm/gtkmm: Latest glibmm/gtkmm stack in rawhide and F23 now uses C++11 features in header files. This means when building other programs that use tho

Re: Heads up: glibmm/gtkmm now requires -std=c++11

2015-09-22 Thread Josh Stone
On 09/22/2015 05:49 PM, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: > Kalev Lember wrote on 09/23/2015 09:35 AM: >> Hi, >> >> A quick heads up to anybody who might run into cryptic build errors when >> building apps that use glibmm/gtkmm: >> >> Latest glibmm/gtkmm stack in rawhide and F23 now uses C++11 features in >> he

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/22/2015 07:33 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 06:21:00PM +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote: I just used dnf distro-sync as per: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_22_-.3E_Fedora_23 This went fine, and I'm now typing this on F23 beta. What are the m

Help with a font package

2015-09-22 Thread Jerry James
I've got a package that has started bundling a font, namely Roboto Slab. I'd like to do things the right way and make this a separate package, but I've never done a font package before and could use a little hand holding. The home page for this font seems to be https://www.google.com/fonts/specim

Re: Help with a font package

2015-09-22 Thread Christopher Meng
Personally hate Google's way on open source, especially distribution. This font is intended to be used in Google Keep, however it's not included in roboto family. Here is the link to the source: https://github.com/google/fonts/tree/master/apache/robotoslab -- Yours sincerely, Christopher Meng

Re: Help with a font package

2015-09-22 Thread Parag Nemade
Hi, On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Jerry James wrote: > I've got a package that has started bundling a font, namely Roboto > Slab. I'd like to do things the right way and make this a separate > package, but I've never done a font package before and could use a > little hand holding. > > The ho