Re: allowing programs to open ports

Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >Uhm no. You seem to be wanting a fight over something, and I have no >mood to engage. I hope you have a more pleasant holidays than what >your tone indicates you are currently having. The idea of making two calls to open a port seemed like a bad design to me, so I prop

Re: allowing programs to open ports

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Björn Persson wrote: > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >>Uhm no. You seem to be wanting a fight over something, and I have no >>mood to engage. I hope you have a more pleasant holidays than what >>your tone indicates you are currently having. > > The idea of making two

Re: allowing programs to open ports

Am 22.12.2014 um 10:10 schrieb drago01: On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Björn Persson wrote: Stephen John Smoogen wrote: Uhm no. You seem to be wanting a fight over something, and I have no mood to engage. I hope you have a more pleasant holidays than what your tone indicates you are current

Re: kvm: vcpu unhandled rdmsr:

On 19/12/2014 22:56, poma wrote: > > > host-model is buggy (I'd say a failed experiment). Can you try host-passthrough? That said, crashing the host is not something that should happen. Can you get a vmcore or at least an abrt report? Paolo -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedor

Re: no error handling in Yum any more?

Maybe it's caused by buggy sctiptlets, I met this weeks ago on dbus. -- Yours sincerely, Christopher Meng http://cicku.me -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: "Workstation" Product defaults to wide-open firewall

On 12/09/2014 04:32 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: Is it really so awful to ask a user: "Do you want to expose Eclipse to the network ?" (of course worded in a better way than my poor English skills can do). Probably not, but it's not implementable in the current state of things. Understood. Do we

Re: allowing programs to open ports

On 12/21/2014 05:28 PM, Björn Persson wrote: Alternatively, cut out the packet filter and have GlibC ask the user whether the call to bind or connect shall be allowed to succeed (or automatically allow or deny the call if so configured). This has the advantage that the program is informed that i

rawhide report: 20141222 changes

Compose started at Mon Dec 22 05:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for i386 -- [3Depict] 3Depict-0.0.16-3.fc22.i686 requires libmgl.so.7.2.0 [Sprog] Sprog-0.14-27.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.18.0) [aeskulap] aes

Re: allowing programs to open ports

Am 22.12.2014 um 11:49 schrieb Florian Weimer: On 12/21/2014 05:28 PM, Björn Persson wrote: Alternatively, cut out the packet filter and have GlibC ask the user whether the call to bind or connect shall be allowed to succeed (or automatically allow or deny the call if so configured). This has

Wine d3d and opencl

Hi, Axel Davy did some patches to wine for getting mesa d3d support[0]. I've prepared patch for Fedora wine package[1]. I'd like to get feedback about fedora package patch and probably merge it to fedora rawhide. I'm working in this direction to complete F22 change[2]. Also, when compiled wine on

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Yes, I looked at that bug report and the somewhat terse response. I thought > I'd post here first before I went the bugzilla route. > > Based upon the information I discovered tonight it seems a bit puzzling it > isn't included. Seriously,

Re: Wine d3d and opencl

On 12/22/2014 08:04 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: Axel Davy did some patches to wine for getting mesa d3d support[0]. I've prepared patch for Fedora wine package[1]. I'd like to get feedback about fedora package patch and probably merge it to fedora rawhide. I'm working in this direction to complete F

Re: Wine d3d and opencl

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 12/22/2014 08:04 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: >> >> Axel Davy did some patches to wine for getting mesa d3d support[0]. >> I've prepared patch for Fedora wine package[1]. I'd like to get >> feedback about fedora package patch and probabl

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

Incredulous yes, angry no. I came here instead of bugzilla because I thought the issue needed a wider audience - especially since it's made its way into the linux media. IMO the decision to exclude F2FS was a mistake. The arguments stated as to why it wasn't included don't really stand up to scru

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

On 12/22/14 8:16 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: >> Yes, I looked at that bug report and the somewhat terse response. I thought >> I'd post here first before I went the bugzilla route. >> >> Based upon the information I discovered tonight it seems a

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: Please don't top post. > Incredulous yes, angry no. I came here instead of bugzilla because I > thought the issue > needed a wider audience - especially since it's made its way into the linux > media. > IMO the decision to exclude F2FS was

Re: no error handling in Yum any more?

On 12/21/2014 10:59 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > I started a yum upgrade process. When it reached 342/784 (@avahi) over half > an hour ago, the screen writing from the process simply halted. Ps on another > tty shows Yum is still running. Disk space and RAM are ample. Top shows > virtually no CPU in us

Re: no error handling in Yum any more?

On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 05:59:50 +0100, Felix Miata wrote: > I started a yum upgrade process. When it reached 342/784 (@avahi) over half > an hour ago, the screen writing from the process simply halted. During F20->F21 upgrade I had to run along something like while sleep 1;do killall systemct

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > Really? It's very disappointing that a single module that isn't used > for anything in Fedora itself is disabled? I understand the desire to > want to tinker, but to be very disappointed in this is... well it's > odd. > You're really deflect

Re: no error handling in Yum any more?

On 22/12/14 17:07, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 05:59:50 +0100, Felix Miata wrote: I started a yum upgrade process. When it reached 342/784 (@avahi) over half an hour ago, the screen writing from the process simply halted. During F20->F21 upgrade I had to run along something like

Re: kvm: vcpu unhandled rdmsr:

On 22.12.2014 10:25, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > > > On 19/12/2014 22:56, poma wrote: >> >> >> > > host-model is buggy (I'd say a failed experiment). Can you try > host-passthrough? Yeah, I switched to cpu mode='host-passthrough', but ultimately any CPU compatible mode wasn't decisive.

[POC-change] Fedora packages point of contact updates

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Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

Trying to turn this discussion into something more productive and deliberately ignoring the negativity: What is the present position/plan for f2fs in Fedora? Is there any hardware out there that uses it? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/

Re: no error handling in Yum any more?

On 22/12/14 17:20, Tom Hughes wrote: On 22/12/14 17:07, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 05:59:50 +0100, Felix Miata wrote: I started a yum upgrade process. When it reached 342/784 (@avahi) over half an hour ago, the screen writing from the process simply halted. During F20->F21 upgr

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Josh Boyer > wrote: >> >> Really? It's very disappointing that a single module that isn't used >> for anything in Fedora itself is disabled? I understand the desire to >> want to tinker, but to be very d

Re: no error handling in Yum any more?

On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 18:20:01 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > The fix is to kill the dbus-daemon process - after that the systemctl calls > will still fail but will do so quickly rather than slowly. OK, goot to know. > You will also won't be able to do a clean reboot so will have to resort to > someth

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Naheem Zaffar wrote: > Trying to turn this discussion into something more productive and > deliberately ignoring the negativity: :) > What is the present position/plan for f2fs in Fedora? We'll likely enable it after looking at it a bit more. We'll deal with t

Re: no error handling in Yum any more?

On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 18:28:58 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > The evidence to look for to see if you are hitting this problem is messages > in the journal like this: > > Dec 05 09:08:21 gosford.compton.nu systemd[1]: Assertion 'path' failed at > ../src/shared/cgroup-util.c:913, function cg_is_empty_rec

Re: allowing programs to open ports

On 22 December 2014 at 01:26, Björn Persson wrote: > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > >Uhm no. You seem to be wanting a fight over something, and I have no > >mood to engage. I hope you have a more pleasant holidays than what > >your tone indicates you are currently having. > > The idea of making tw

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > > Is there any hardware out there that uses it? > > Aside from the hardware already mentioned in this thread, which Fedora > doesn't run on, there might be some generic ARM boards that could use > it. One use that quickly comes to mind is USB

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

On 12/22/14 12:12 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Josh Boyer > wrote: > > > Is there any hardware out there that uses it? > > Aside from the hardware already mentioned in this thread, which Fedora > doesn't run on, ther

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > Ah. I see. To you this is just a single instance of some wider > problem. Sure, OK. I'm not comfortable flipping on random > filesystems as soon as they show up. Similarly, I don't think it's > helpful to enable random drivers from staging

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

Hi On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > Well, I don't think the majority of folks would agree that F2FS is "some > random filesystem". > You'll either turn it on, or explain why not. The community can then > judge for themselves. > That is not how it works. The default po

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

The XFStest scenario assumes that Fedora is being somewhat innovative... in this instance we're not. We're playing catch-up. The horse has already left the barn. The longer we delay, the sillier we look. The requirement is obvious. The bugzilla on it is active. They'll either turn it on, or ex

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

Hi On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > The XFStest scenario assumes that Fedora is being somewhat innovative... > in this instance we're not. We're playing catch-up. > The horse has already left the barn. The longer we delay, the sillier we > look. The requirement is obvio

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

What exactly more do you propose? Re-create the wheel? Tests have already been run. A URL has already been posted in the bugzilla record showing a video where Dave Chinner discusses it. It's being used in consumer devices now. There is nothing to convince. The facts speak for themselves. They

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

On 22 December 2014 at 12:19, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > What exactly more do you propose? Re-create the wheel? Tests have > already been run. A URL has already been posted in the bugzilla record > showing a > video where Dave Chinner discusses it. It's being used in consumer > devices now. Ther

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > No they do not have all the information needed. What they know is that > some other distribution ships it and that it works in a device using a > custom kernel. How does it work on a normal drive, how does it not work, > how are the

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

Am 22.12.2014 um 20:57 schrieb Gerald B. Cox: On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: No they do not have all the information needed. What they know is that some other distribution ships it and that it works in a device using a custom kernel. How does it work o

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

Hi On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > If no one else was using this, that would be another thing. You're also > making up rules that weren't applied to other products which are included > in Fedora; > It applies to filesystems enabled in Fedora. Someone has to do the w

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > *wow* and i am accused to be abusive repeatly? LOL... Yeah, it's kind of hard to gauge when to just shut-up in this group. I don't believe that I said anything abusive, and that was not my intent. If I hurt someones feelings, I am truly

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 11:57 -0800, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: > No they do not have all the information needed. What they know > is that some other distribution ships it and that it works in > a device using

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

Please accept my apologies. My initial post was sufficient to make my point. On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 11:57 -0800, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Stephen John Smoogen > > wrote: > > No they

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Please accept my apologies. My initial post was sufficient to make my > point. Your post had sufficient information for us to reevaluate F2FS, yes. Thanks for that. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fe

Re: Why isn't F2FS support in the Kernel?

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > Your post had sufficient information for us to reevaluate F2FS, yes. > Thanks for that. > You're very welcome. Glad I could help. Thanks for keeping an open mind and taking the time to reevaluate. It is much appreciated. -- devel mailing l

Re: trusted apps and trusted networks (was: 5tFTW: Fedora 21, 22, and 19, firewall discussion, and holiday break)

Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > User A wants to be notified of all programs opening ports even if he is > going to whitelist them. > User B does not want to be notified and could care less about security. > etc. User C does not want to be notified either, but just wants everything blocked silently.

[Test-Announce] New Fedora 22 Nightly compose test event: 20141222

Once again I noticed a new nightly test event was 'needed' while testing relval changes! So the new testing nightly is 20141222. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_22_Rawhide_20141222_Installation https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_22_Rawhide_20141222_

Provides question

Cobbler ships a tftp server written in python that integrates with (and requires) cobbler. Cobbler requires a tftp server, and it would be nice to be able to install either the cobbler-tftpd or tftp-server package to satisfy that dependency. Could I have cobbler-tftp provide tftp-server, or w

Re: Provides question

On 12/22/2014 09:21 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: Cobbler ships a tftp server written in python that integrates with (and requires) cobbler. Cobbler requires a tftp server, and it would be nice to be able to install either the cobbler-tftpd or tftp-server package to satisfy that dependency. Could

Re: Provides question

On 12/23/2014 05:30 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 12/22/2014 09:21 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: Cobbler ships a tftp server written in python that integrates with (and requires) cobbler. Cobbler requires a tftp server, and it would be nice to be able to install either the cobbler-tftpd or tftp-se