Re: F21/F22: xorg-x11-drv: which for SiS?

2014-09-24 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi Felix, > xorg-x11-drv-sis seems to have disappeared. Did that happen on purpose? It > still exists as a selelection in Bugzilla. Xorg is looking for sis module but > cannot find it. Gfxchip here is Z7/Z9 (XG20 core). Is it now supposed to be > using some other (not installed) driver? Before tod

F-21 Branched report: 20140924 changes

2014-09-24 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Sep 24 07:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [PyQuante] PyQuante-libint-1.6.4-11.fc21.1.armv7hl requires libint(armv7hl-32) = 0:1.1.6-2.fc21 [askbot] askbot-0.7.48-13.fc21.noarch requires python-d

Re: Django 1.4 and 1.5 retired in Fedora 21 [Was: F-21 Branched report: 20140923 changes]

2014-09-24 Thread Matthias Runge
On 23/09/14 14:23, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Django 1.4 and 1.5 have been retired from the Fedora collection in > Fedora 21 in favor of the two supported branches, 1.6 and 1.7. > Thank you Stephen, I'm guilty to have missed to send this heads-up mail. > On 09/23/2014 07:34 AM, Fedora Branched

rawhide report: 20140924 changes

2014-09-24 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Broken deps for i386 -- [PyQuante] PyQuante-libint-1.6.4-11.fc22.1.i686 requires libint(x86-32) = 0:1.1.6-2.fc21 [Sprog] Sprog-0.14-27.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.18.0) [askbot] askbot-0.7.48-13.fc21.noa

Time to retire PVM?

2014-09-24 Thread Richard Shaw
I wanted to get some input before initiating the retirement process. PVM upstream seems to be dead, version 3.4.6 was release in 2009. Also, the entire build is pretty much non-compliant to the packaging guidelines. The entire source is copied to the buildroot and compiled in place. Does anyone

Re: F-21 Branched report: 20140924 changes

2014-09-24 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:12:14AM +, Fedora Branched Report wrote: > [cduce] > cduce-0.5.5-9.fc21.armv7hl requires ocaml(Camlp4) = > 0:ebd368022fd2bc7b305a42902efa4c90 > [ocaml-bisect] > ocaml-bisect-1.3-3.fc21.armv7hl requires ocaml(Camlp4) = > 0:ebd368022fd2bc7b305a42902efa4c90

Installing shared libraries in spec file

2014-09-24 Thread Lalatendu Mohanty
Hi All, Recently we came across a issue i.e. bz [1] , where ldconfig returned error as below on Fedora 20 machine (same issue is present in other Fedora variants too). /"yum remove glusterfs-libs" giving some Non-fatal POSTUN scriptlet failure. /sbin/ldconfig: relative path `0' used to build

Re: Installing shared libraries in spec file

2014-09-24 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Hello, the “-p /sbin/ldconfig” syntax triggers a special behavior in RPM if the scriptlet is otherwise empty . In your case, the “%post libs” scriptlet also actually, surprising as it may seem, includes the following lines: > ##--

Re: Installing shared libraries in spec file

2014-09-24 Thread Lalatendu Mohanty
On 09/24/2014 07:42 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: Hello, the “-p /sbin/ldconfig” syntax triggers a special behavior in RPM /if the scriptlet is otherwise empty/. In your case, the “%post libs” scriptlet also actually, surprising as it may seem, includes the following lines: ##-

How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There has been some discussion in various forums lately about how we will handle fedup upgrades from Fedora 20 to Fedora 21 products. Several suggestions have been made that warrant discussion: * Upgrades from Fedora 20 remain non-productized. They

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > There has been some discussion in various forums lately about how we > will handle fedup upgrades from Fedora 20 to Fedora 21 products. > > Several suggestions have been made that warrant discussion: > > * Upgrad

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/24/2014 12:22 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > - Original Message - There has been some discussion in > various forums lately about how we will handle fedup upgrades from > Fedora 20 to Fedora 21 products. > > Several suggestions have been m

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:16:06PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > I think either the first option (easy) or the last option (requiring > fedup changes) will be preferable. In the selectable case, I think > that fedup should operate as a non-productized upgrade unless > otherwise specified at the

Re: F21/F22: xorg-x11-drv: which for SiS?

2014-09-24 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 21:35 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Adam Jackson wrote on 2014-09-23 12:45 (GMT-0400): > > That's the fbdev X driver, pointed at either vesafb or uvesafb kernel > > driver. Which I suppose will get you a high-res console, but isn't > > especially great for mode selection in X.

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.09.2014 um 18:16 schrieb Stephen Gallagher: > There has been some discussion in various forums lately about how we > will handle fedup upgrades from Fedora 20 to Fedora 21 products. > > Several suggestions have been made that warrant discussion: > > * Upgrades from Fedora 20 remain non-pr

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2014-09-24)

2014-09-24 Thread Matthew Miller
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday (today!) at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2014-09-24 17:00 UTC' We only have on

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.09.2014 um 18:22 schrieb Jaroslav Reznik: >> Maybe we can go with first option and say, upgrades to products are not >> supported, please reinstall. It's new beginning and say non-productized >> update support will be gone in F22 timeframe and only productized updates >> will be allowed don

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/24/2014 12:22 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > - Original Message - There has been some discussion in > > various forums lately about how we will handle fedup upgrades from > > Fedora 20 to Fedora 21 pro

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > Ah, you're right. On the other hand I think all spins are somehow > desktop related (at least now), so moving spins to use workstation > as the base is probably desirable > No. It is not. Workstation is GNOME based. Most spins are f

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > Hi > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > > Ah, you're right. On the other hand I think all spins are somehow > desktop related (at least now), so moving spins to use workstation > as the base is probably desirable > > No. It is not. Work

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Kalev Lember
On 09/24/2014 06:16 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > There has been some discussion in various forums lately about how we > will handle fedup upgrades from Fedora 20 to Fedora 21 products. > > Several suggestions have been made that warrant discus

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 09/24/2014 11:28 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: Fourth option might be to make all installations that have gnome-shell installed become Workstation, and leave others non-productized. This is hardly a guarantee. I have several servers that get a default Fedora install and I don't bother removing X

Re: Django 1.4 and 1.5 retired in Fedora 21 [Was: F-21 Branched report: 20140923 changes]

2014-09-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 12:39:35 +0200 Matthias Runge wrote: > On 23/09/14 14:23, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Django 1.4 and 1.5 have been retired from the Fedora collection in > > Fedora 21 in favor of the two supported branches, 1.6 and 1.7. > > > > Thank you Stephen, > > I'm guilty to have mis

Minutes from Wednesday's (again) incredibly brief FESCo Meeting (2014-09-24)

2014-09-24 Thread Matthew Miller
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-09-24) === Meeting started by mattdm at 17:00:50 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-09-24/fesco.2014-09-24-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary ---

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 18:29:11 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 24.09.2014 um 18:16 schrieb Stephen Gallagher: > > There has been some discussion in various forums lately about how we > > will handle fedup upgrades from Fedora 20 to Fedora 21 product

[perl-YAML/f21] (6 commits) ...Update to 1.12

2014-09-24 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 8201039... Perl 5.20 rebuild (*) a2f2ffe... Update to 1.10 (*) ba7ae7c... Update to 1.11 (*) dcf7207... Perl 5.20 rebuild (*) fa5e58c... Perl 5.20 re-rebuild of bootstrapped packages (*) 19c5e98... Update to 1.12 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branc

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.09.2014 um 19:12 schrieb Dennis Gilmore: > I have updated a few machines by running "yum --releasever=21 install > fedora-release" then "yum distro-sync" and not had any issues. As I > understand this thread it is soley about what to do in the case of > using fedup only. in which case we nee

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-09-25 16:00 UTC)

2014-09-24 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2014-09-25 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2014-09-25 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2014-09-25 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2014-09-25 1

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread drago01
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > - Original Message - >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> There has been some discussion in various forums lately about how we >> will handle fedup upgrades from Fedora 20 to Fedora 21 products. >> >> Several su

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 24 September 2014 10:16, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > There has been some discussion in various forums lately about how we > will handle fedup upgrades from Fedora 20 to Fedora 21 products. > > Several suggestions have been made that warrant di

Re: [RETRACTION] Re: Unofficial Poll: Flock 2015 (North America) Bids

2014-09-24 Thread Máirín Duffy
On 09/23/2014 02:37 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: On 22/09/14 17:18, Haïkel wrote: Proposals are supposed to provide travel costs from pre-determined airports at the *targeted* period. If I trust informations from the proposals, SLC would be too expensive to cover travel expenses for EMEA folks.

Multiple directory ownership including filesystem package

2014-09-24 Thread Till Maas
Hi, I noticed that mulitple packages own /etc/bash_completion.d/ even though it is nowadays part of the filesystem package. From what I read from the Guidelines, it is not clear to me whether it is prohibited or not. Should it be fixed? Here is a current list for Fedora 19: repoquery --whatprovid

'Branch freeze policy' and 'Change deadline' naming change proposal

2014-09-24 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi, folks! I'm currently like two months behind on devel@ - apologies if I've missed anything relevant. A discussion in #anaconda this morning made it clear that folks have trouble following our full release cycle, and particularly the various kinds of 'freeze' that exist. So, there is a page na

Re: 'Branch freeze policy' and 'Change deadline' naming change proposal

2014-09-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 12:41:17 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: ...snip... > AFAICS, the "Branch freeze" kicks in at the point we enable Bodhi on > the Branched tree, which is usually a couple of weeks after forking > it from Rawhide. For instance, on the F21 schedule - > https://fedoraproject.org/wik

Re: Multiple directory ownership including filesystem package

2014-09-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 21:36:15 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed that mulitple packages own /etc/bash_completion.d/ even though > it is nowadays part of the filesystem package. From what I read from the > Guidelines, it is not clear to me whether it is prohibited or not. https://fedorapr

Re: 'Branch freeze policy' and 'Change deadline' naming change proposal

2014-09-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-09-24 at 14:46 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 12:41:17 -0700 > Adam Williamson wrote: > > ...snip... > > > AFAICS, the "Branch freeze" kicks in at the point we enable Bodhi on > > the Branched tree, which is usually a couple of weeks after forking > > it from Rawhid

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 12:27:04 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:16:06PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > I think either the first option (easy) or the last option (requiring > > fedup changes) will be preferable. In the selectable case, I think > > that fedup should opera

Re: 'Branch freeze policy' and 'Change deadline' naming change proposal

2014-09-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:02:41 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2014-09-24 at 14:46 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 12:41:17 -0700 > > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > ...snip... > > > > > AFAICS, the "Branch freeze" kicks in at the point we enable Bodhi > > > on the Branch

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 17:14:40 -0400 Simo Sorce wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 12:27:04 -0400 > Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:16:06PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > I think either the first option (easy) or the last option > > > (requiring fedup changes) will be pref

Re: 'Branch freeze policy' and 'Change deadline' naming change proposal

2014-09-24 Thread Christopher
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi, folks! > > I'm currently like two months behind on devel@ - apologies if I've > missed anything relevant. > > A discussion in #anaconda this morning made it clear that folks have > trouble following our full release cycle, and particul

Re: 'Branch freeze policy' and 'Change deadline' naming change proposal

2014-09-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 17:22:29 -0400 Christopher wrote: > That page only describes policy, it doesn't really connect policy to > actions one could take, or offer any explanation about what is > actually "frozen", and is very confusing. What can a package owner do > in git? What shouldn't they do? W

Re: 'Branch freeze policy' and 'Change deadline' naming change proposal

2014-09-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-09-24 at 17:22 -0400, Christopher wrote: > > > That page only describes policy, it doesn't really connect policy to > actions one could take, or offer any explanation about what is actually > "frozen", and is very confusing. What can a package owner do in git? What > shouldn't they do?

Re: Installing shared libraries in spec file

2014-09-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 20:09:51 +0530, Lalatendu Mohanty wrote: > On 09/24/2014 07:42 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > Hello, > > the “-p /sbin/ldconfig” syntax triggers a special behavior in RPM /if > > the scriptlet is otherwise empty/. In your case, the “%post libs” > > scriptlet also actually, su

Re: [RETRACTION] Re: Unofficial Poll: Flock 2015 (North America) Bids

2014-09-24 Thread Matthias Runge
On 24/09/14 19:54, Máirín Duffy wrote: >> E.g. in June, flights to Boston are US$ 850 vs US$ 1400 in August. Maybe >> it's a good idea to move the conference out of main holiday season? > > Are you located in EMEA or APAC? Because Flock alternates between North > America and EMEA I think partially

Re: Django 1.4 and 1.5 retired in Fedora 21 [Was: F-21 Branched report: 20140923 changes]

2014-09-24 Thread Matthias Runge
On 24/09/14 19:01, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > ...snip... > > Fedora Infrastructure only runs it on RHEL6 currently. > > I don't know off hand if it runs on newer django, but can take a look. > > It would be nice to get it running on rhel7/epel7. > > kevin > > Kevin, I totally agree. askbot ups