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2014-09-22 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Broken deps for i386 -- [PyQuante] PyQuante-libint-1.6.4-11.fc22.1.i686 requires libint(x86-32) = 0:1.1.6-2.fc21 [Sprog] Sprog-0.14-27.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.18.0) [askbot] askbot-0.7.48-13.fc21.noa

F-21 Branched report: 20140922 changes

2014-09-22 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Mon Sep 22 07:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [APLpy] APLpy-0.9.8-5.fc21.noarch requires pywcs [PyKDE] PyKDE-3.16.6-14.fc20.armv7hl requires sip-api(10) >= 0:10.0 [PyQuante] PyQuante-libint-

Re: [RETRACTION] Re: Unofficial Poll: Flock 2015 (North America) Bids

2014-09-22 Thread Matthias Runge
On 22/09/14 02:36, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > (Sorry for top-posting) > > I've been informed that there is an *official* poll coming shortly from the > Flock Planning Committee. Please disregard this thread and await that poll. > > To make it a bit more complicate: could we have more specifi

GNOME 3.14.0 megaupdate

2014-09-22 Thread Kalev Lember
Hi all, Here we are, final 3.14.0 this week! Same deal as with the 3.13.92 update last week: use 'fedpkg build --target f21-gnome' for builds or alternatively list your builds in the spreadsheet and I'll pick them up for the megaupdate. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtzJKpbiGX1zdGJ

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 14:44 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: >>> > Then file a bug report against rsyslog and provide a patch which fixes >>> > the default log filtering in Fedora to your expectation but leave >>> > systemd out of it. >> wow - in any other case the systemd developers saying that >> the

Re: [RETRACTION] Re: Unofficial Poll: Flock 2015 (North America) Bids

2014-09-22 Thread Stephen Gallagher
> On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: > >> On 22/09/14 02:36, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> >> (Sorry for top-posting) >> >> I've been informed that there is an *official* poll coming shortly from the >> Flock Planning Committee. Please disregard this thread and await that poll

Re: [HEADS-UP] jsoncpp update

2014-09-22 Thread Miloslav Trmač
- Original Message - > I going to update jsoncpp to the latest github commit in rawhide. This is an > ABI > break with no soname change. That’s rather risky, any of the users could break without any RPM dependency failure. Could you at least file a bug against every package using jsoncp

Re: [Test-Announce] 2014-09-22 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2014-09-22 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, 2014-09-21 at 19:55 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > * Anything else? The dual boot release criteria? Would be nice to get those finalized as soon as possible. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://a

Re: [Test-Announce] 2014-09-22 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2014-09-22 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Sun, 2014-09-21 at 19:55 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> * Anything else? > > The dual boot release criteria? Would be nice to get those finalized as > soon as possible. Hmm? I haven't seen anything on devel list about that. josh -

[POC-change] Fedora packages point of contact updates

2014-09-22 Thread nobody
Change in package status over the last 168 hours 8 packages were orphaned flickrnet [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by palango .NET library to interact with the Flickr API https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/22/2014 12:58 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: i suggest you get rid of that arrogance and some other developers too because it's the reason for the subject and proves that you *do not* care about users as long you have not the same opinion you are the one demanding a friendly tone from me, well

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 15:55 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > On 09/22/2014 12:58 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> i suggest you get rid of that arrogance and some other developers >> too because it's the reason for the subject and proves that you >> *do not* care about users as long you have not the same o

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Miloslav Trmač
(stripping systemd-devel) - Original Message - > Am 22.09.2014 um 14:44 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > > This is simply untrue as "journalctl -o export" will show you. > > where is it in the message? > the process is "systemd" > > how to distinct between user sessions and systemn boot?

Re: [RETRACTION] Re: Unofficial Poll: Flock 2015 (North America) Bids

2014-09-22 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > > On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Matthias Runge > > wrote: > > > >> On 22/09/14 02:36, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> > >> (Sorry for top-posting) > >> > >> I've been informed that there is an *official* poll coming sho

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 16:25 schrieb Miloslav Trmač: > (stripping systemd-devel) > > - Original Message - >> Am 22.09.2014 um 14:44 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: >>> This is simply untrue as "journalctl -o export" will show you. >> >> where is it in the message? >> the process is "systemd" >>

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Seg, 2014-09-22 at 16:08 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > no you refuse to understand that *nobody* wants to split > out *all* systemd logs because just the excessive *user > session* logging and that this messages should not exist > at all in a non-debugging environment IIUC , this messages doesn

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 16:48 schrieb Sérgio Basto: > On Seg, 2014-09-22 at 16:08 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> no you refuse to understand that *nobody* wants to split >> out *all* systemd logs because just the excessive *user >> session* logging and that this messages should not exist >> at all in a

Re: [RETRACTION] Re: Unofficial Poll: Flock 2015 (North America) Bids

2014-09-22 Thread Haïkel
Proposals are supposed to provide travel costs from pre-determined airports at the *targeted* period. If I trust informations from the proposals, SLC would be too expensive to cover travel expenses for EMEA folks. @+ H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproje

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Seg, 2014-09-22 at 17:00 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 22.09.2014 um 16:48 schrieb Sérgio Basto: > > On Seg, 2014-09-22 at 16:08 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> no you refuse to understand that *nobody* wants to split > >> out *all* systemd logs because just the excessive *user > >> sess

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 17:18 schrieb Sérgio Basto: > On Seg, 2014-09-22 at 17:00 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 22.09.2014 um 16:48 schrieb Sérgio Basto: >>> On Seg, 2014-09-22 at 16:08 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: no you refuse to understand that *nobody* wants to split out *all* syste

Re: rpath/runpath in binaries

2014-09-22 Thread Rex Dieter
Paulo César Pereira de Andrade wrote: > Hi, > > I missed the memo about it not being a fatal error now (rpmlint still > tells it > is an error), but just in case, before attempting to enforce it a > package review, Note that not *all* RPATHs are bad. In general, those that match these nee

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/22/2014 02:25 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: (stripping systemd-devel) - Original Message - >Am 22.09.2014 um 14:44 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > >This is simply untrue as "journalctl -o export" will show you. > >where is it in the message? >the process is "systemd" > >how to dis

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Miloslav Trmač
- Original Message - > For example if you want to see just error messages in the journal you > use "journalctl -p 3" or "journalctl -b -p 3" if you want it only from > last boot ( add boot id if you want to from specific boot ) or you add > "journalctl -b -p 3 -u httpd.service" if you wan

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 18:35 schrieb Miloslav Trmač: > - Original Message - >> For example if you want to see just error messages in the journal you >> use "journalctl -p 3" or "journalctl -b -p 3" if you want it only from >> last boot ( add boot id if you want to from specific boot ) or you ad

[Bug 1142195] Update perl-POE in several branches

2014-09-22 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1142195 --- Comment #1 from Fedora Update System --- perl-POE-1.356-1.fc20 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 20. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-POE-1.356-1.fc20 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list fo

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread DJ Delorie
> For the journal you always keep all log history in it's original > state On low-bandwidth systems, like laptops or diskless nodes, it's a performance hit to generate the log entry in the first place. It's really important to be able to configure the system to *generate* a minimal amount of com

Re: [HEADS-UP] jsoncpp update

2014-09-22 Thread Rex Dieter
Sébastien Willmann wrote: > I going to update jsoncpp to the latest github commit in rawhide. This is > an ABI break with no soname change. Why is there no soname change? (ie, there probably should be) -- Rex -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Haïkel
Please avoid cross-posting in the middle of a thread without contextualization. Regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/22/2014 04:35 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >For example if you want to see just error messages in the journal you >use "journalctl -p 3" or "journalctl -b -p 3" if you want it only from >last boot ( add boot id if you want to from specific boot ) or you add >"journalctl -b -p 3 -u httpd.ser

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 19:37 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > > On 09/22/2014 04:35 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >>> >For example if you want to see just error messages in the journal you >>> >use "journalctl -p 3" or "journalctl -b -p 3" if you want it only from >>> >last boot ( add boot id if you want

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 19:51 schrieb Reindl Harald: > Am 22.09.2014 um 19:37 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: >> >> On 09/22/2014 04:35 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > For example if you want to see just error messages in the journal you > use "journalctl -p 3" or "journalctl -b -p 3" if you want it

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/22/2014 04:53 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: For the journal you always keep all log history in it's original state On low-bandwidth systems, like laptops or diskless nodes, it's a performance hit to generate the log entry in the first place. It's really important to be able to configure the syst

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/22/2014 06:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: # Log systemd-logind to /var/log/secure :programname, isequal, "systemd-logind" -/var/log/secure :programname, isequal, "systemd-logind" stop :msg, contains, "Starting Session" stop :msg, contains, "Started Session" stop :msg, contains, "S

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 21:00 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > On 09/22/2014 06:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> # Log systemd-logind to /var/log/secure >> :programname, isequal, "systemd-logind" -/var/log/secure >> :programname, isequal, "systemd-logind" stop >> :msg, contains, "Starting Sessi

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 21:05 schrieb Reindl Harald: > Am 22.09.2014 um 21:00 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: >> On 09/22/2014 06:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> # Log systemd-logind to /var/log/secure >>> :programname, isequal, "systemd-logind" -/var/log/secure >>> :programname, isequal, "sys

Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-09-23)

2014-09-22 Thread Honza Horak
WG meeting will be at 13:00 UTC (14:00 London, 15:00 Brno, 9:00 Boston, 22:00 Tokyo) in #fedora-meeting on Freenode. = Topics = * Recommendation for running Koschei for all Fedora packages * Follow-up: language specific mirrors for Fedora Playground compliant packages * Follow-up: SCLs, building a

[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Virt Test Day is Thu Sep 25!

2014-09-22 Thread Cole Robinson
Hey all, The Fedora 21 Virt Test Day is this coming Thu Sep 25. Check out the test day landing page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2014-09-25_Virtualization If you're interested in trying out some new virt functionality, there's step by step instructions for: * Q35 Chipset * Import AA

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-22 Thread Matthew Miller
Seriously, both of you: this back and forth (and particularly the personal squabbling!) do not help us with Fedora development, which is what this list is for. If there's a problem somewhere here which we can address, let's talk about technical problems and solutions. Or if there are upstream issue

Re: [RETRACTION] Re: Unofficial Poll: Flock 2015 (North America) Bids

2014-09-22 Thread Matthias Runge
On 22/09/14 17:18, Haïkel wrote: > Proposals are supposed to provide travel costs from pre-determined > airports at the *targeted* period. > If I trust informations from the proposals, SLC would be too expensive > to cover travel expenses for EMEA folks. > A brief look revealed, a trip e.g. to Cap

F21/F22: xorg-x11-drv: which for SiS?

2014-09-22 Thread Felix Miata
xorg-x11-drv-sis seems to have disappeared. Did that happen on purpose? It still exists as a selelection in Bugzilla. Xorg is looking for sis module but cannot find it. Gfxchip here is Z7/Z9 (XG20 core). Is it now supposed to be using some other (not installed) driver? Before today's upgrade, X sti

Re: F21/F22: xorg-x11-drv: which for SiS?

2014-09-22 Thread David Airlie
- Original Message - > From: "Felix Miata" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Tuesday, 23 September, 2014 4:50:46 PM > Subject: F21/F22: xorg-x11-drv: which for SiS? > > xorg-x11-drv-sis seems to have disappeared. Did that happen on purpose? It > still exists as a selelection i