Hi,
the 0.4.10 is out in F20 updates [0] now. Rawhide builds are hitting a
problem in python-pillow or something [1].
See the release notes[2] and the blog post[3] for more information about
the release.
Ales
[0] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dnf-0.4.10-1.fc20
[1] http://kojipkgs
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 15:58:18 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > I ended up running scan-build from clang-analyzer and found
> > more memory leaks, null pointer deferences and other issues that cppcheck
> > doesn't find. I am going to try and
Hello
I have several issues wth Fedora 20. Not bugs but shortcomings in the
installer or packages who _must_ be in the DVD or default installations and
aren't.
Is that the place for submitting them?
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On 2. 1. 2014 at 13:14:41, jfm...@free.fr wrote:
> Hello
>
> I have several issues wth Fedora 20. Not bugs but shortcomings in the
> installer or packages who _must_ be in the DVD or default installations and
> aren't. Is that the place for submitting them?
I'd recommend you bugzilla as the best
look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444565.html
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444563.html
please realize that a drop-in replacement *first* needs to be *really*
drop-in an
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On 12/27/2013 05:06 PM, Philip Prindeville wrote:
> I’m seeing the following after an update (via yum) from F19 to F20:
>
> time->Tue Dec 24 16:05:44 2013 type=SYSCALL
> msg=audit(1387926344.492:5867): arch=c03e syscall=1 success=no exit=-13
On 2 January 2014 15:28, Reindl Harald wrote:
> look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready
DNF isn't due to replace yum until F22.
> please realize that a drop-in replacement *first* needs to be *really*
> drop-in
It's not a drop-in replacement. This is my last email
I should have made clear it is for Fedora 21. AS I saisd it is not about bugs
but about design flaws so I am not sure bugzilla is an adequate channel.
- Mail original -
De: "Jan Zelený"
À: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Cc: jfm...@free.fr
Envoyé: Jeudi 2 Janvier 2014 14:50:47
Objet: Re:
Am 02.01.2014 16:51, schrieb Richard Hughes:
> On 2 January 2014 15:28, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready
>
> DNF isn't due to replace yum until F22.
which may arrive in 2014 givern that F20 was released 2013/12
that's why i start to co
signed completely.
using fed since core, it makes me stupid, to rethink after every update.
one system is deleted, cause it never was stable after an upgrade.
regards,
joern rink
Am 02.01.2014 17:01 schrieb "Reindl Harald" :
> Am 02.01.2014 16:51, schrieb Richard Hughes:
> > On 2 January 2014 1
On 2. 1. 2014 at 16:59:09, jfm...@free.fr wrote:
> I should have made clear it is for Fedora 21. AS I saisd it is not about
> bugs but about design flaws so I am not sure bugzilla is an adequate
> channel.
>
>
> - Mail original -
> De: "Jan Zelený"
> À: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Cc
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 04:28:59PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444565.html
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444563.html
>
> please
Am 02.01.2014 17:35, schrieb Richard W.M. Jones:
> On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 04:28:59PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready
>>
>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444565.html
>> https://lists.fedoraproject.o
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 18:50 +0100, Phil Knirsch wrote:
>> Hi everyone.
>>
>> During last weeks Base WG discussion about package set and self hosting
>> of Base we came to a point where especially the self hosting of Base
>> would currently l
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 05:54:00PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> to prevent that the same as with GRUB2 and systemd way too early
> made it in a stable release happening again - and after that get
> again "why are you open your mouth now and not due testing" back
I'm sure that Ales will welcome pa
why are *that* agressive?
Am 02.01.2014 18:16, schrieb Richard W.M. Jones:
> On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 05:54:00PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> to prevent that the same as with GRUB2 and systemd way too early
>> made it in a stable release happening again - and after that get
>> again "why are you
On 01/02/2014 06:16 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 05:54:00PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
to prevent that the same as with GRUB2 and systemd way too early
made it in a stable release happening again - and after that get
again "why are you open your mouth now and not due te
I unretired the el6 branch and took ownership for a package I maintain.
Now I'm getting the $subject build error when I do a fedpkg build.
Scratch builds are successful.
Is there some built-in delay between unretiring before I can do builds
or is there another step I've missed (and don't fin
Sent from my Google Nexus 5
On Jan 2, 2014 8:36 AM, "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 04:28:59PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready
> >
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444565.h
Am 02.01.2014 18:30, schrieb Petr Viktorin:
> On 01/02/2014 06:16 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 05:54:00PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> to prevent that the same as with GRUB2 and systemd way too early
>>> made it in a stable release happening again - and after that get
Hi
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:43 AM, Martin Milata wrote:
> You might be interested in mock-with-analysis [1], mock wrapper that can
> run several static analyzers on unmodified SRPMs and extract the results
> in machine-readable format.
>
> Martin
>
> [1] https://github.com/fedora-static-analysis
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 12:32:14PM -0500, Kaleb KEITHLEY wrote:
> I unretired the el6 branch and took ownership for a package I maintain.
>
> Now I'm getting the $subject build error when I do a fedpkg build.
> Scratch builds are successful.
Please be specific in your question/bug reports. I ass
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 00:31:18 +0100
Sandro Mani wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just updated libwebp in rawhide, which involves a soname bump.
> Dependencies are
>
> ImageMagick-6.8.7.0-2.fc21.src.rpm
> SDL2_image-2.0.0-3.fc21.src.rpm
> dmapd-0.0.55-5.fc21.src.rpm
> gdal-1.10.1-2.fc21.src.rpm
> gthumb-3.
Hi
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> FYI, for next time, can you either provide more notice (evening of a
> holiday week with just a few hours before rawhide composes isn't much),
> or line up a provenpackager(s) that are willing to rebuild everything
> for you?
>
> You als
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444565.html
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444563.html
>
> please realize th
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Richard Vickery
wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Reindl Harald
> wrote:
>>
>> look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready
>>
>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444565.html
>> https://lists.fedora
On 01/02/2014 02:25 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Richard Vickery
wrote:
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Reindl Harald
wrote:
look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444565.h
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Richard Vickery
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Reindl Harald
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready
> >>
> >>
> https://lists.fedor
Am 02.01.2014 20:25, schrieb Dan Mashal:
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Richard Vickery
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Reindl Harald
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready
>>>
>>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/20
On 02.01.2014 20:36, Steve Clark wrote:
> Also at least yum stood for something - Yellowdog Updater, Modified - as
> opposed to being some
> nonsensical conglomeration of letters. The only thing I am aware of that dnf
> means is "did not finish".
Did Not Finish
Do Not Forget
Does Not Follow
Dat
On 02.01.2014 20:25, Dan Mashal wrote:
> I don't understand what the learning curve is? It works exactly the
> same as yum. Typing 'dnf' instead of 'yum' is a learning curve?
Really?
> I'm confused.
Of course.
You write as if you never even tried it. :)
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On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> the bahvior is obviously not (or *not yet*) identical and the viewpoint
> what are not often used bordercases may vary and depend on the environment
> as i pointed out "yum -y remove kernel" is a regular task here after
> machines
> are
can we *please* agree that discussions @devel are
*technical* without noise (smalltalk and joke-posts)
Am 02.01.2014 21:18, schrieb poma:
> On 02.01.2014 20:25, Dan Mashal wrote:
>
>> I don't understand what the learning curve is? It works exactly the
>> same as yum. Typing 'dnf' instead of 'yum'
Am 02.01.2014 21:21, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Reindl Haraldwrote:
> the bahvior is obviously not (or *not yet*) identical and the viewpoint
> what are not often used bordercases may vary and depend on the environment
> as i pointed out "yum -y remove kernel" is
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 01:14:41PM +0100, jfm...@free.fr wrote:
> I have several issues wth Fedora 20. Not bugs but shortcomings in the
> installer or packages who _must_ be in the DVD or default installations
> and aren't. Is that the place for submitting them?
Or, maybe discuss what you want he
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 03:21:37PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> I agree with that and the kernel removal behavior isn't the only
> difference. I mean, how often would one run dnf remove glibc on purpose
> and the significant amount of accidental runs of yum that caused serious
> problems resulte
Hi
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> This one is clearly one of those "doomed to repeat history" things in
> motion.
>
> Protected packages was first implemented * as a yum plugin because Seth
> thought it was kind of crazy and shouldn't be core functionality, but then
>
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Fedora Rawhide Report
> Compose finisheded at Thu Jan 2 11:27:28 UTC 2014
>
I thought this typo was already fixed?
Rahul
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> On 12/27/2013 05:24 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Orion Poplawski
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is anyone interested in taking on python-boto, please?
>>
>>
>> I can, although I won't be able to do anything beyon
Le jeudi 02 janvier 2014 à 16:08 -0500, Rahul Sundaram a écrit :
> Hi
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> This one is clearly one of those "doomed to repeat history"
> things in
> motion.
>
> Protected packages was first impleme
Hi
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Michael Scherer wrote:
> It could be implemented as a plugin and still installed by default.
>
It could be but I doubt that is the proposed change here. They just don't
want to deal with the functionality at all and seem to have some sort of
philosophical arg
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 07:58:06PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-12-26 at 19:07 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2013-12-26 at 18:51 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > Time for another PSA...
> > >
> > > It appears libevdev 0.6 breaks the library's ABI without bumping the
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> This one is clearly one of those "doomed to repeat history" things in
> motion.
It seems to me that dbf has to strike an impossible balance.
Asking that dnf supports every yum behavior would negate the benefit
of having dnf, which is to bre
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 14:03:54 -0500
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> >
> > FYI, for next time, can you either provide more notice (evening of a
> > holiday week with just a few hours before rawhide composes isn't
> > much), or line up a pro
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 16:26:26 -0500
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Fedora Rawhide Report
>
> > Compose finisheded at Thu Jan 2 11:27:28 UTC 2014
> >
>
> I thought this typo was already fixed?
Ah, I see it's nit-pick day. :)
I did commit the fix to git. However, rawhid
Am 02.01.2014 23:09, schrieb Martin Langhoff:
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Matthew Miller
> wrote:
>> This one is clearly one of those "doomed to repeat history" things in
>> motion.
>
> It seems to me that dbf has to strike an impossible balance.
not necessarily
> Asking that dnf suppo
On 02.01.2014 19:50, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 00:31:18 +0100
Sandro Mani wrote:
Hi,
I've just updated libwebp in rawhide, which involves a soname bump.
Dependencies are
ImageMagick-6.8.7.0-2.fc21.src.rpm
SDL2_image-2.0.0-3.fc21.src.rpm
dmapd-0.0.55-5.fc21.src.rpm
gdal-1.10.1-2
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> with my software-developer hat on the opposite is true
I discussed yum internals quite a bit with Seth in past years. Every
change I proposed met a wall of backwards compatibility. Turns out
that there are many very specific corner cases, and
I have a nice booter setup and a nice _main_ Linux installation. Last thing I
would want is a distribution I am _testing_, that is Fedora 20 forces on me it
will be my main installation and forces me to choose between installing Grub on
the MBR or not at all.
In addition it didn't detect my ot
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 23:28:44 +0100
Sandro Mani wrote:
> Apologies, will do so next time. Btw, did I miss it or is the soname
> bump procedure for package maintainers not really described in any
> fedora wiki page?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainer_responsibilities#Notify_others
On 02.01.2014 23:37, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 23:28:44 +0100
Sandro Mani wrote:
Apologies, will do so next time. Btw, did I miss it or is the soname
bump procedure for package maintainers not really described in any
fedora wiki page?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maint
Am 02.01.2014 23:29, schrieb Martin Langhoff:
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> with my software-developer hat on the opposite is true
>
> I discussed yum internals quite a bit with Seth in past years. Every
> change I proposed met a wall of backwards compatibility. Turn
>5 PM, poma wrote:
> On 02.01.2014 20:36, Steve Clark wrote:
>
>> Also at least yum stood for something - Yellowdog Updater, Modified - as
>> opposed to being some
>> nonsensical conglomeration of letters. The only thing I am aware of that dnf
>> means is "did not finish".
>
> Did Not Finish
> D
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:28 PM, yersinia wrote:
> >5 PM, poma wrote:
> > On 02.01.2014 20:36, Steve Clark wrote:
> >
> >> Also at least yum stood for something - Yellowdog Updater, Modified -
> as opposed to being some
> >> nonsensical conglomeration of letters. The only thing I am aware of
> th
On 01/02/2014 04:36 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:28 PM, yersinia mailto:yersinia.spi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>5 PM, poma mailto:pomidorabelis...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> On 02.01.2014 20:36, Steve Clark wrote:
>
>> Also at least yum stood for something - Yell
[Third try to send this email. The Gmail Android app has a lovely UI
to select the sender address, but it doesn't do anything :(.]
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Garrett Holmstrom
wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
>> On 12/27/2013 05:24 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wro
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 15:36:11 -0800
Subject: Re: dnf versus yum
From: richard.vicker...@gmail.com
To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:28 PM, yersinia wrote:
>5 PM, poma wrote:
> On 02.01.2014 20:36, Steve Clark wrote:
>
>> Also at least yum stood for something -
On 03.01.2014 01:06, Bob Arendt wrote:
> As a runner, DNF already has a specific meaning for me.
> If you're picking random letters for a project to avoid
> existing collisions, you might also consider tossing the
> set back into the bag they have a well-established meaning
> in other domains. Ju
Hi,
Adam Williamson wrote:
> As a 'meta' note, I think a factor that contributes to all of the above
> factors may be a lack of understanding outside a very few people as to
> precisely how the entire fedup process works: speaking personally, I
> certainly wasn't acquainted with all the subtleties
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 02:18:52AM +0100, poma wrote:
> On 03.01.2014 01:06, Bob Arendt wrote:
>
> > As a runner, DNF already has a specific meaning for me.
> > If you're picking random letters for a project to avoid
> > existing collisions, you might also consider tossing the
> > set back into th
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 02:18:52AM +0100, poma wrote:
> > On 03.01.2014 01:06, Bob Arendt wrote:
> >
> > > As a runner, DNF already has a specific meaning for me.
> > > If you're picking random letters for a project to avoid
> > > existing c
Matthew Miller wrote:
> Or, maybe discuss what you want here on this list, and why you feel
> certain things are shortcomings or "musts". There certainly _are_
> shortcomings, but some of them are the result of tradeoff design decisions
> that don't have an easy answer. And what "must" be on the DV
On 03.01.2014 02:31, Richard Vickery wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 02:18:52AM +0100, poma wrote:
>>> On 03.01.2014 01:06, Bob Arendt wrote:
>>>
As a runner, DNF already has a specific meaning for me.
If you're picking random
Hi,
I need python-sphinx-theme-better to build the python-pillow docs,
review is here [1]. Should be very quick and easy. Happy to review in
exchange.
Thanks,
Sandro
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048045
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Steve Clark wrote:
> Also at least yum stood for something - Yellowdog Updater, Modified - as
> opposed to being some nonsensical conglomeration of letters. The only
> thing I am aware of that dnf means is "did not finish".
The point of this thread is that the development apparently indeed Did Not
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 02:40:33AM +0100, poma wrote:
> On 03.01.2014 02:31, Richard Vickery wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 02:18:52AM +0100, poma wrote:
> >>> On 03.01.2014 01:06, Bob Arendt wrote:
> >>>
> As a runner, DNF a
The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing:
Age URL
621
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5620/bugzilla-3.4.14-2.el6
135
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11274/ssmtp-2.61-21.el6
77
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDO
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:18 PM, poma wrote:
>
>
> "Yum" has sentimental value and is practically a trademark, so
> 1. yuma - Yellowdog Updater, Modified Again
> 2. yum2 - Yellowdog Updater, Modified II
> 3. yumrelo - Yellowdog Updater, Modified Reloaded
> 6. yum-ng - Yellowdog Updater, Modified NG
On 01/02/2014 06:52 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 02:40:33AM +0100, poma wrote:
On 03.01.2014 02:31, Richard Vickery wrote:
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 02:18:52AM +0100, poma wrote:
On 03.01.2014 01:06, Bob Arendt wrote:
Hi,
To me, this is the real showstopper:
http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html#keepcache-configuration-option-dropped
(By the way, how does PackageKit-hawkey behave there?)
The keepcache=0 default in Fedora is IMHO a CRITICAL DATA LOSS BUG and I
ALWAYS change that broken default to 1 on m
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Sandro Mani wrote:
> python-webm-0.2.2-2.fc20.src.rpm
Fixed in python-webm-0.2.2-5.fc21
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=487623
Thanks,
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Am 03.01.2014 03:05, schrieb Kevin Kofler:
> To me, this is the real showstopper:
> http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html#keepcache-configuration-option-dropped
> (By the way, how does PackageKit-hawkey behave there?)
>
> The keepcache=0 default in Fedora is IMHO a CRITICAL DATA LOSS BUG
Swap with: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1006860
WIll be "Ready" soon.
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Am 03.01.2014 03:12, schrieb Reindl Harald:
>
> Am 03.01.2014 03:05, schrieb Kevin Kofler:
>> To me, this is the real showstopper:
>> http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html#keepcache-configuration-option-dropped
>> (By the way, how does PackageKit-hawkey behave there?)
>>
>> The keepcache
Reindl Harald wrote:
> uhm "It has been disabled in Fedora and there has been no real use cases
> indicated" says who and with what real world expierience? look above!
They clearly haven't looked very far for use cases, indeed.
Another important use case (and another reason why keepcache=1 should
Chuck Anderson wrote:
> How about:
>
> fu - Fedora Updater.
> fum - Fedora Updater, Modified.
>
> fu has a positive connotation: "fu, a particle or suffix that can mean
> "intensity" [1].
Maybe to you… To me, it means either "F… You!" or just "FU**". ^^
"FUBAR" also comes to my mind.
Really, i
On 03.01.2014 00:28, yersinia wrote:
> I do not think it is nice to speak so bad about a project. The
> objective are clear,if something can be improved everyone can or must
> contribute.The criticisms are useless.We are talking about open source
> software, do not forget.
"…, do not forget." :)
On 03.01.2014 02:28, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> fu has a positive connotation: "fu, a particle or suffix that can mean
> "intensity" [1].
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_fu
http://goo.gl/CiwB5U
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Am 03.01.2014 03:54, schrieb poma:
> On 03.01.2014 02:28, Chuck Anderson wrote:
>
>> fu has a positive connotation: "fu, a particle or suffix that can mean
>> "intensity" [1].
>
>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_fu
>
> http://goo.gl/CiwB5U
*please* stop this useless joke-posts damaging
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 03:16:10 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > root@buildserver:~]$ cat /buildserver/repo-cache.sh
> > #!/usr/bin/bash
> > basearch=`uname -i`
> > releasever=`rpm -q --qf "%{version}\n" fedora-release`
> > for g in `ls -1b /var/cache/yum`
> > do
> > if [ -d /var/cache/yum/$g/package
On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 02:22 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > As a 'meta' note, I think a factor that contributes to all of the above
> > factors may be a lack of understanding outside a very few people as to
> > precisely how the entire fedup process works: speaking
On 3 January 2014 04:32, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Reindl Harald wrote:
>> uhm "It has been disabled in Fedora and there has been no real use cases
>> indicated" says who and with what real world expierience? look above!
>
> They clearly haven't looked very far for use cases, indeed.
>
> Another impor
Am 03.01.2014 06:18, schrieb Adam Williamson:
> On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 02:22 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> That leads us to the question of why we don't simply endorse the direct yum
>> (or dnf) method, which people do understand…
>
> Only if you like asking and answering the same question twenty
On Sex, 2014-01-03 at 02:22 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > As a 'meta' note, I think a factor that contributes to all of the above
> > factors may be a lack of understanding outside a very few people as to
> > precisely how the entire fedup process works: speaking
On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 06:46 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 03.01.2014 06:18, schrieb Adam Williamson:
> > On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 02:22 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >> That leads us to the question of why we don't simply endorse the direct
> >> yum
> >> (or dnf) method, which people do understand
On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 02:48 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Steve Clark wrote:
> > Also at least yum stood for something - Yellowdog Updater, Modified - as
> > opposed to being some nonsensical conglomeration of letters. The only
> > thing I am aware of that dnf means is "did not finish".
>
> The poi
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