Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-16 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 10/16/2013 12:51 AM, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> This is one of these passionate threads I enjoy reading because I >> usually learn something interesting, and I also enjoy people being >> passionate about stuff. But this tim

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-16 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 23:51:18 +0200, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: >> $ rpm -V libreoffice-core >> prelink: /tmp/#prelink#.TZlaPL: Recorded 92 dependencies, now seeing -1 > > Repeating for the third time in this thread: > This is a known prelink B

Re: prelink performance gains [summary]

2013-10-16 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 09:20:02 +0200, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: > I understand, but what bothers me isn't the prelink bug but prelink > itself being installed by default (for what it does regardless of the > bug). What exactly bothers you? It (generally) speeds up programs startup. As a summary I s

Re: Taking owner ship of mod_scgi: re-review, and rutorrent review swap

2013-10-16 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
I'll review mod_scgi, if you're interested I need a review for this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=vcsh Dridi On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Hi, > > mod_scgi was orphaned quite a while back since it wouldn't build on new > releases, with the new apache. I fo

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-16 Thread Florian Weimer
On 10/15/2013 10:01 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: I have tested a possibly real world script: rm *;sync;(time for i in `seq 0 89`;do mplayer &>/dev/null -nosound -vo png -ss $i -endpos 0 video.mp4;mv 0001.png $i.png;done) 2>&1|grep ^real|tee -a /tmp/times without prelink: 6.220s 6.212

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-16 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 10/16/2013 10:17 AM, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 10/16/2013 12:51 AM, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: Hi, This is one of these passionate threads I enjoy reading because I usually learn something interesting, and I also enjoy people being p

Re: Software management: Call for RFEs results!

2013-10-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 15. 10. 2013 at 09:40:41, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 01:15:26PM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote: > > Not to be only negative here, take a look at the COPR initiative, I expect > > it will solve the problem you are talking about by offering external > > repositories that will be easi

Re: Software management: Call for RFEs results!

2013-10-16 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 16.10.2013 10:04, Jan Zelený napsal(a): On 15. 10. 2013 at 09:40:41, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 01:15:26PM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote: Not to be only negative here, take a look at the COPR initiative, I expect it will solve the problem you are talking about by offering exter

Re: LVM thin provisioning and virt-manager

2013-10-16 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 09:13:35PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Oct 15, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 04:04:28PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> I'm happy to hear it argued I should instead use the LV space for a > >> regular partition formatted e

Re: Code Hosting, Development Tools and Open Source

2013-10-16 Thread Kamil Paral
> With the conversation we've been having and the persona developments, I > propose the following: > > - create FAS groups for git-taskbot-core and git-taskbot-tasks which >will control access to the git repos What will git-taskbot-tasks be used to? I thought we were going to have decentral

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-16 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
Resending since the last attempt bounced. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 03:21:31PM +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:27:36PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > >> Do you really run "gnome-open --help" 1000 times per reasonable unit of > > >> time (or ever)? Please stop using bo

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-16 Thread Florian Weimer
On 10/15/2013 10:04 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: On 10/15/2013 09:10 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Jan Kratochvil said: It depends, for example in this case prelink saves 33% of time (and battery): i=0;time while [ $i -lt 1000 ];do /usr/bin/gnome-open --help &>/dev/null;i=$[$i+1];d

Re: Automounting of the root partition in the initramfs

2013-10-16 Thread Juerg Haefliger
>> All, >> >> The (admittedly hacky) dracut-modules-growroot package installs a >> dracut script that runs in the pre-pivot stage. It unmounts the root >> partition, extends it to the maximum possible size and then tries to >> remount it. What I noticed in F20 is that as soon as the >> repartitioni

Re: Software management: Call for RFEs results!

2013-10-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 16. 10. 2013 at 10:46:01, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 16.10.2013 10:04, Jan Zelený napsal(a): > > On 15. 10. 2013 at 09:40:41, Matthew Miller wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 01:15:26PM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote: > >>> Not to be only negative here, take a look at the COPR initiative, I > >>> expec

F-20 Branched report: 20131016 changes

2013-10-16 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Oct 16 09:15:03 UTC 2013 Broken deps for armhfp -- [blueman] blueman-1.23-7.fc20.armv7hl requires obex-data-server >= 0:0.4.3 blueman-1.23-7.fc20.armv7hl requires gvfs-obexftp [bwm-ng] bwm-ng-0.6

Re: Source file audit - 2013-09-30

2013-10-16 Thread Pavel Alexeev
04.10.2013 01:35, Kevin Fenzi пишет: > Here's attached another run of my sources/patches url checker. > Please fix any packages you are responsible for in rawhide, and other > branches as other changes permit. > > - There are 3067 lines in this run. Up from 1007 last run. > (Which was 2.5 years a

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-10-15)

2013-10-16 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo > meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. > > To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at > http://fedorapro

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-10-16)

2013-10-16 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/15/2013 05:29 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 15:19 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the >> FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on >> irc.freenode.n

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-10-15)

2013-10-16 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/16/2013 08:24 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > - Original Message - >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the >> FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meetin

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-16 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 11:56:44 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > So even in that totally artificial case, we gain very little, > considering the trouble that prelink is. After all the discussion I have listed the current known issues: prelink performance gains [summary] https://lists.fe

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-16 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 02:42:37PM +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 11:56:44 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > > So even in that totally artificial case, we gain very little, > > considering the trouble that prelink is. > > After all the discussion I have listed the current known is

[Test-Announce] 2013-10-10 Fedora Gnome Test Day review

2013-10-16 Thread Jan Sedlak
Last Thursday was Gnome Test Day [1]. Thanks to all of you who attended, whether you tested Gnome, helped people on IRC or helped us with Test Day management. I want to thank namely to Alexander Todorov, who helped us with management and to Matthias Claasen for being on IRC for people to help. Tog

Re: There used to be a way to minimize the address section on Thunderbird

2013-10-16 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/15/2013 08:55 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 15/10/13 13:41, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > >> This seems to have gone a way from Fedora 20/21 thunderbird. >> >> rpm -q thunderbird thunderbird-24.0-3.fc21.x86_64 >> >> Is this intended? Is this a bug? I

Re: Bug 950189: Missing icon for qt-creator

2013-10-16 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > Hi, > > I apologize for escalating this to devel, but I think that after 6 > months it is time this [1] finally got fixed: it is just a matter of > changing the icon name in the desktop file of qt-creator to reflect the > new icon name. This is one of those trivial t

Re: Software management: Call for RFEs results!

2013-10-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 10:04:55AM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote: > > I won't speak for Michael, but I think the answer is no. COPRs fills a > > need, but it's _too_ wild west (no package signatures, for example). We > > need to support multiple language runtimes and native upstream packaging > > *in* Fe

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-16 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 14:45:00 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > why waste time and energy to fix things with little to no benefit IIRC compiler team spends 1.5 year to get 1% of performane gain. Here you have almost ready feature with up to ... questionable but it is in a range of percents in some real

Re: Bug 950189: Missing icon for qt-creator

2013-10-16 Thread Sandro Mani
On 16.10.2013 14:51, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - Hi, I apologize for escalating this to devel, but I think that after 6 months it is time this [1] finally got fixed: it is just a matter of changing the icon name in the desktop file of qt-creator to reflect the new icon

Re: Software management: Call for RFEs results!

2013-10-16 Thread Tom Hughes
On 16/10/13 13:57, Matthew Miller wrote: We have a mantra of "upstream! upstream! upstream!" for software development and patches. In the olden days, we didn't do that for packaging, because there was no consistent upstream packaging at all (just the occasional upstream shipping terrible distro-

Re: Review Request 55: milestone_info uses hardcoded bugzilla url instead of using config value

2013-10-16 Thread Martin Krizek
On Oct. 14, 2013, 5:08 p.m., Martin Krizek wrote: > > Overall, looks good other than my question about url munging vs. changing > > how the settings are done. Thoughts? I updated the diff according to conversation on IRC. - Martin ---

Re: Review Request 55: milestone_info uses hardcoded bugzilla url instead of using config value

2013-10-16 Thread Martin Krizek
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard-tflink.rhcloud.com/r/55/ --- (Updated Oct. 16, 2013, 1:16 p.m.) Review request for blockerbugs. Bu

Re: Review Request 55: milestone_info uses hardcoded bugzilla url instead of using config value

2013-10-16 Thread Martin Krizek
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard-tflink.rhcloud.com/r/55/ --- (Updated Oct. 16, 2013, 1:17 p.m.) Review request for blockerbugs. Bu

Re: prelink performance gains [summary]

2013-10-16 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > What exactly bothers you? It (generally) speeds up programs startup. > > As a summary I see prelink has some bugs: > * -y has false mismatches: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=666143 > * %preun does not unprelink: > https://b

Re: Bug 950189: Missing icon for qt-creator

2013-10-16 Thread Rex Dieter
Sandro Mani wrote: > Thanks for your reply. Being a regular QtCreator user, I'm happy to help > out if help is needed (i.e., comaintain and handle smaller issues like > this one). Would that be appreciated? yes! :) -- rex -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedora

Re: Automounting of the root partition in the initramfs

2013-10-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 01:17:25PM +0200, Juerg Haefliger wrote: > >> All, > >> > >> The (admittedly hacky) dracut-modules-growroot package installs a > >> dracut script that runs in the pre-pivot stage. It unmounts the root > >> partition, extends it to the maximum possible size and then tries to

Re: Software management: Call for RFEs results!

2013-10-16 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: > Ok then, talk to FPC about this. Personally I'd be against creating the wild > west from Fedora itself and I'd rather like to have have it in COPRs. Fedora > should keep its high standard of Software packaging (which usually doesn't > apply for

Broken dependencies: perl-MIME-Lite-HTML

2013-10-16 Thread buildsys
perl-MIME-Lite-HTML has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-MIME-Lite-HTML-1.24-4.fc18.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.0) On i386: perl-MIME-Lite-HTML-1.24-4.fc18.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.0) On armhfp: perl-MIME-Lite-HTML-1.2

Broken dependencies: slic3r

2013-10-16 Thread buildsys
slic3r has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: slic3r-0.9.10b-2.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.3) On i386: slic3r-0.9.10b-2.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.3) On armhfp: slic3r-0.9.10b-2.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_

Broken dependencies: perl-Language-Expr

2013-10-16 Thread buildsys
perl-Language-Expr has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2) On i386: perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2) On armhfp: perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.

[Bug 919030] perl-Glib-Object-Introspection seems to have a big-endian problem, self tests fail on s390* and ppc*

2013-10-16 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=919030 Karsten Hopp changed: What|Removed |Added Version|19 |20 --- Comment #2 from Karsten Hopp --

quotacheck, quotaoff, and quotaon are going to be usr-moved

2013-10-16 Thread Petr Pisar
To finish usr-move, I'm going to change quota package in that way. /sbin/quotacheck, /sbin/quotaoff, and /sbin/quotaon files will be moved under /usr. This may affect init scripts enabling quotas and SELinux file auto-labeling. This will be done in rawhide only. Please speak now, or be quiet fo

Re: Bug 950189: Missing icon for qt-creator

2013-10-16 Thread Sandro Mani
On 16.10.2013 15:32, Rex Dieter wrote: Sandro Mani wrote: Thanks for your reply. Being a regular QtCreator user, I'm happy to help out if help is needed (i.e., comaintain and handle smaller issues like this one). Would that be appreciated? yes! :) Ok! acls requested. Sandro -- devel mail

[Bug 919030] perl-Glib-Object-Introspection seems to have a big-endian problem, self tests fail on s390* and ppc*

2013-10-16 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=919030 Daniel Berrange changed: What|Removed |Added External Bug ID||CPAN 89552 -- You are receiving thi

[Bug 1019827] slic3r is missing dependency perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.3) and failed to install

2013-10-16 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1019827 Miro Hrončok changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution|---

[Bug 993353] slic3r: FTBFS in rawhide

2013-10-16 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=993353 Miro Hrončok changed: What|Removed |Added CC||bblas...@redhat.com --- Comment #3 from

[Bug 1009919] perl-5.18: Regexp::Grammars does not work due to bug in perl

2013-10-16 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1009919 Miro Hrončok changed: What|Removed |Added CC||mhron...@redhat.com --- Comment #4 fro

Re: quotacheck, quotaoff, and quotaon are going to be usr-moved

2013-10-16 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/16/2013 09:49 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: > To finish usr-move, I'm going to change quota package in that way. > /sbin/quotacheck, /sbin/quotaoff, and /sbin/quotaon files will be moved > under /usr. > > This may affect init scripts enabling quotas a

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-16 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2013-10-16 at 14:58 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 14:45:00 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > why waste time and energy to fix things with little to no benefit > > IIRC compiler team spends 1.5 year to get 1% of performane gain. > Here you have almost ready feature with u

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.10.2013 14:42, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 11:56:44 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >> So even in that totally artificial case, we gain very little, >> considering the trouble that prelink is. > > After all the discussion I have listed the current known issues: > prelink

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.10.2013 14:58, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 14:45:00 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> why waste time and energy to fix things with little to no benefit > > IIRC compiler team spends 1.5 year to get 1% of performane gain. > Here you have almost ready feature with up to ... qu

Re: prelink performance gains [summary]

2013-10-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.10.2013 09:44, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 09:20:02 +0200, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: >> I understand, but what bothers me isn't the prelink bug but prelink >> itself being installed by default (for what it does regardless of the >> bug). > > What exactly bothers you? It (

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.10.2013 15:20, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 15:11:13 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> you really do not understand the difference between faster *running* >> code and some micro-seconds at *startup* of the application? > > You do not understand overall system performance is in

File Net-Patricia-1.22.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by orion

2013-10-16 Thread Orion Poplawski
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Net-Patricia: ef838f7512b050ca4b35d742f9565b3b Net-Patricia-1.22.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mai

[perl-Net-Patricia] Update to 1.22

2013-10-16 Thread Orion Poplawski
commit 4a1f1c8bd81015f10cb873a6fa7f5870cb588e6e Author: Orion Poplawski Date: Wed Oct 16 09:54:51 2013 -0600 Update to 1.22 .gitignore |1 + perl-Net-Patricia.spec |6 -- sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --

[Bug 1019657] perl-Net-Patricia-1.22 is available

2013-10-16 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1019657 Orion Poplawski changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution|---

Re: Anyone else using and interested in co-maintaining sogo?

2013-10-16 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
I'm using sogo on RHEL6 at work, and would gladly help maintaining it for Fedora. But, I've been expecting this would be a difficult job because I thought SOGo/inverse maintained their own patched gnustep, sope or something like that. Is that not the case? For RHEL6 we're using sope 4.9 from SOGo

Re: Anyone else using and interested in co-maintaining sogo?

2013-10-16 Thread Sandro Mani
On 16.10.2013 18:13, Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote: I'm using sogo on RHEL6 at work, and would gladly help maintaining it for Fedora. But, I've been expecting this would be a difficult job because I thought SOGo/inverse maintained their own patched gnustep, sope or something like that. Is that not th

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 09:57:37AM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > Yup, prelink screws up rpm -V pretty badly. To me, this line _alone_ should end the conversation. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedorapr

Re: LVM thin provisioning and virt-manager

2013-10-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 16, 2013, at 3:25 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > You could try using one or more of these qcow2 options: > > compat=1.1 > preallocation=metadata > lazy_refcounts=on > > eg: > > qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b backing -o preallocation=metadata,compat=1.1 > snapshot > > I would gues

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-10-17 16:00 UTC)

2013-10-16 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2013-10-17 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2013-10-17 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2013-10-17 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2013-10-17 1

Re: Alternative to Debian origins?

2013-10-16 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Ter, 2013-10-15 at 15:19 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > In Debian distributions exist file: >/etc/dpkg/origins/default > which is symlink to >/etc/dpkg/origins/debian > with content: >Vendor: Debian >Vendor-URL: http://www.debian.org/ >Bugs: debbugs://bugs.debian.org Hi, p

some people let packages in f20-updates-candidate

2013-10-16 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi, The recent builds of docker-io and azureus never reach updates-testing of Fedora 20 repoquery --releasever=20 --enablerepo=updates-testing docker-io azureus azureus-0:5.0.0.0-2.fc20.noarch when we have azureus-5.1.0.0-1.fc20 built on 2013-10-05 19:17:29 and docker-io built 2013-10-05 01:

Re: LVM thin provisioning and virt-manager

2013-10-16 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 01:09:25PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > Caching mode was none in all prior cases. Note that cache=none is almost never useful. It bypasses the host cache so you don't get the benefit of having lots of free host memory, plus causes endless pain because of filesystems that d

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-10-17 16:00 UTC)

2013-10-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 15:13:45 -0400, James Antill wrote: > If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to > this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, > e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during > the open floor topic. Note that a

Re: some people let packages in f20-updates-candidate

2013-10-16 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2013-10-16 at 20:39 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > What I can do those packages enter in F20 ? Bodhi updates have to be created by a human, and then other humans need to provide sufficient karma. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailma

Re: some people let packages in f20-updates-candidate

2013-10-16 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qua, 2013-10-16 at 15:53 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > On Wed, 2013-10-16 at 20:39 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > What I can do those packages enter in F20 ? > > Bodhi updates have to be created by a human, and then other humans need > to provide sufficient karma. But since humans fail th

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2013-10-16)

2013-10-16 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 === #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-10-16) === Meeting started by sgallagh at 18:00:18 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-10-16/fesco.2

Re: LVM thin provisioning and virt-manager

2013-10-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 16, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 01:09:25PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Caching mode was none in all prior cases. > > Note that cache=none is almost never useful. It bypasses the host > cache so you don't get the benefit of having lots of free

Re: LVM thin provisioning and virt-manager

2013-10-16 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 02:24:59PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Oct 16, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 01:09:25PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> Caching mode was none in all prior cases. > > > > Note that cache=none is almost never useful. It by

Re: F21/F22 System Wide Change: Python 3 as the Default Implementation

2013-10-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:05:52PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > El Mon, 14 Oct 2013 02:19:15 -0400 (EDT) > Bohuslav Kabrda escribió: > > - Original Message - > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > El Thu

Re: LVM thin provisioning and virt-manager

2013-10-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 16, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > I made the suggested cache change for both LVM and qcow2; and created the > qcow2 file as suggested (adding lazy_refcount): > > Fedora 20 default standard partition guided install (ext4) to an LV takes > 18m02s. Firstboot systemd-analyze

BEAST to be patched in NSS

2013-10-16 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 FESCo met today to address the NSS BEAST patch that left all software using NSS vulnerable to the BEAST[0] vulnerability. The decision was made to implement the patch that fixes this vulnerablity in F19 and F20. There are some programs that may

Re: Anyone else using and interested in co-maintaining sogo?

2013-10-16 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
Ludovic, could you please comment on the status here? Can we build SOGo and all it's dependencies from upstream gnustep, SOPE, etc.. or are there special "SOGo"-versions of these we'll need? And what is the relationship between SOPE 2.0.7 from http://www.sogo.nu/files/downloads/SOGo/Sources/ and

Re: BEAST to be patched in NSS

2013-10-16 Thread Elio Maldonado
- Original Message - From: "Eric H. Christensen" To: devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:33:06 PM Subject: BEAST to be patched in NSS -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 FESCo met today to address the NSS BEAST patch that left all soft

Re: some people let packages in f20-updates-candidate

2013-10-16 Thread Jochen Schmitt
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 08:59:17PM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > But since humans fail there , who or how can create Bodhi updates for > them ? The easies way to create an update is to go to your working directory and ensure, that you are in the correct branch. After then you can call fedpkg upda

Re: some people let packages in f20-updates-candidate

2013-10-16 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qua, 2013-10-16 at 23:57 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 08:59:17PM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > But since humans fail there , who or how can create Bodhi updates for > > them ? > > The easies way to create an update is to go to your working directory > and ensure,

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-16 Thread Robert Relyea
On 10/15/2013 11:52 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:25:10 +0200, Paul Wouters wrote: >> - complexity >> - complicated prelink blacklists >> - complicated cron job exclusion with sysconfig > You can always make your software development life more simple by giving up on > some usef

Re: some people let packages in f20-updates-candidate

2013-10-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:12:11 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Qua, 2013-10-16 at 23:57 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 08:59:17PM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > > But since humans fail there , who or how can create Bodhi updates for > > > them ? > > > > The easies wa

Re: Software management: Call for RFEs results!

2013-10-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tom Hughes wrote: > That hasn't stopped us saying that they don't provide a good experience > to Fedora users however, and that it is better to repackage things as > RPMs so that our users only have to deal with a single interface to > installing and updating packages and that they will get a set o

Re: Software management: Call for RFEs results!

2013-10-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Vít Ondruch wrote: > Sorry, this has nothing to do with FPC yet. RPM/YUM/DNF should first > provide reasonable support. For example this issue [1] could take us > closer as a first approximation. > > Vít > > > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=845247 Parallel-installing multiple v

Re: some people let packages in f20-updates-candidate

2013-10-16 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qui, 2013-10-17 at 00:37 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:12:11 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > On Qua, 2013-10-16 at 23:57 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 08:59:17PM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > > > > But since humans fail there , who

Re: BEAST to be patched in NSS

2013-10-16 Thread Elio Maldonado Batiz
Oops, I pasted too much is hard to read. The diff lines that matter are # This patch is currently meant for stable branches -# Patch29: nss-ssl-cbc-random-iv-off-by-default.patch +Patch29: nss-ssl-cbc-random-iv-off-by-default.patch . # activate for stable and beta branche

Re: some people let packages in f20-updates-candidate

2013-10-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 01:50:34AM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > Why docker-io, don't have any Bodhi request ? This is by request of Docker upstream. The initial version we built was heavily patched in an experimental way. That experiment was merged upstream into the upcoming 0.7 release, but that

Re: aarch64 support bugs obsolete?

2013-10-16 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 10/13/2013 1:34 PM, Till Maas wrote: Hi, some time ago several bugs regarding aarch64 support were opened. According to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922257#c1 most of the bugs seem to be wrong. Nevertheless, there was no status update at least in the bugs created for my packag

Re: aarch64 support bugs obsolete?

2013-10-16 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 10/16/2013 07:15 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: If your package uses the %configure macro, I would feel free to close them as either invalid or fixed as that macro handles it. If your package doesn't, you have more checking/work to do. Thanks for replying- this slipped through my inbox. You ca

Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-16 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Hello developers and packagers, I recently received an email from the reporter[1] from rhbz #913289. related to the sponsorship. The review was done. One of sponsors promised to take care of that step which never came to fruition. It has been

Re: Differences between Fakeroot and Mock & Suggested method

2013-10-16 Thread Matt Eskes
Rich, Matthew, and Richard Thanks for your guys' input. It's good to know that I can turn here, when I have to and not have it seem that I'm asking a silly question. I will try to keep everyone abreast of progress and once I'm ready for review, I'll let you all know. Thanks again. M -- devel

Re: BEAST to be patched in NSS

2013-10-16 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2013-10-16 at 19:08 -0700, Elio Maldonado Batiz wrote: > Oops, I pasted too much is hard to read. The diff lines that matter > are > > # This patch is currently meant for stable branches > -# Patch29: nss-ssl-cbc-random-iv-off-by-default.patch > +Patch29: nss-ssl-cbc-ran

Re: Source file audit - 2013-09-30

2013-10-16 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 10/03/2013 03:35 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Here's attached another run of my sources/patches url checker. Please fix any packages you are responsible for in rawhide, and other branches as other changes permit. Lines in the output are of three forms: - BADURL:base-file-name:$PACKAGENAME This me

Re: aarch64 support bugs obsolete?

2013-10-16 Thread Alec Leamas
On 2013-10-17 04:30, Brendan Conoboy wrote: On 10/16/2013 07:15 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: If your package uses the %configure macro, I would feel free to close them as either invalid or fixed as that macro handles it. If your package doesn't, you have more checking/work to do. Thanks for rep

Re: aarch64 support bugs obsolete?

2013-10-16 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:16:40 +0200 Alec Leamas wrote: > > Thanks for replying- this slipped through my inbox. You can also > > see > if your package was built successfully by visiting > > > http://arm-temp.ausil.us/pub/fedora-arm/stage4/http://arm-temp.ausil.us/pub/fedora-arm/stage4/ > > > Hm,

Re: aarch64 support bugs obsolete?

2013-10-16 Thread Christopher Meng
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Alec Leamas wrote: > Hm, I get 404 on that URL?! http://arm-temp.ausil.us/pub/fedora-arm/stage4/ Yours sincerely, Christopher Meng Always playing in Fedora Project http://cicku.me -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject