Resending since the last attempt bounced.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 03:21:31PM +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:27:36PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > >> Do you really run "gnome-open --help" 1000 times per reasonable unit of
> > >> time (or ever)?  Please stop using bogus comparisons and highly
> > >> contrived tests.  They do nothing to help your argument.
> > > 
> > > This isn't totally invalid.  I assume that some shell scripts with tight 
> > > loops are the only thing that actually
> > > benefits from prelinking today. People write those, unfortunately.
> > 
> > it is - they are *not* loading a lot of dynmaic linked libraries
> 
> It is spawning a program a bunch of times, which results in program
> load time becoming all the more relevant.  Shell scripts that spawn
> multiple programs in tight loops are not exactly uncommon, so please
> don't pretend that they don't exist.
> 
> > [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ldd /usr/bin/bash
> >         linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007fffc9764000)
> >         libtinfo.so.5 => /lib64/libtinfo.so.5 (0x00007f99b21aa000)
> >         libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f99b1fa6000)
> >         libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007f99b1be4000)
> >         /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f99b23ee000)
> > 
> > > I'm attaching a deliberately badly written script which should be fairly 
> > > representative, alas.  I can' benchmark it
> > > right now because the system isn't idle, but if someone else wants to 
> > > have a go at it, be my guest.
> > 
> > if you *only* can measure it if your system is *idle* than you have what we 
> > called
> > "maske dby noise" already in this thread and that is *not* significant
> 
> You haven't understood the point of the statement - a benchmark
> measurement is reliable only if the 'before' and 'after' measurements
> are done in identical conditions.  In that context, an idle system is
> the ideal pre-condition.  That point has nothing to do with whether
> the performance improvement is evident when the system is under any
> amount of load.
> 
> Siddhesh
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