Re: Orphaning of freemind and all my remaining Java packages

2013-08-29 Thread Johannes Lips
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Johannes Lips wrote: > Hi all, > > I finally came to the conclusion, that I no longer want to invest time and > effort in keeping all my Java packages in good shape. I don't have the time > anymore to unbundle all the bundled libraries and keep a dozen downstream

Re: bisect on fedora kernels

2013-08-29 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 07:54 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: > On 29 August 2013 01:53, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > > >> Just to follow up, thanks, your instructions for building worked fine > >> (I'd worried it wouldn't be so straightforward). Thought I'd

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Packages depending on retired packages

2013-08-29 Thread 80
By mere curiosity, why didn't we follow the usual renaming process (and avoid losing the previous history in git) ? It was just an upstream rename due to a trademark issue. H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of

Re: Running a command in spec file?

2013-08-29 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
Quoting Dave Johansen (2013-08-28 21:58:38) > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Remi Collet wrote: > > > > Le 28/08/2013 18:09, Dave Johansen a écrit : > > > I'm trying to make a spec file that uses the devtoolset in RHEL 5/6 ( > > > rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2013-0175.html ) but I haven't been ab

Re: Dear Fedora Packagers!

2013-08-29 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 28.8.2013 16:27, Miloslav Trmač napsal(a): On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Thanks for your interest. It is a reoccuring problem that both the rename request submitter *and* the reviewer get the Obsoletes tags wrong. Perhaps the guidelines should be more clear, then

Re: Builder update

2013-08-29 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 29.8.2013 08:05, Panu Matilainen napsal(a): For a practical example of the timescale of this "process" as things have been so far: opt-in install-time macro-expansion of scriptlets was implemented upstream in March 2010 and has been in Fedora since F15. Yet this relatively trivial thing *

Re: Dear Fedora Packagers!

2013-08-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 09:04:23 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > I've highlighted the %{?dist} tag issue. see if this is better now: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Renaming.2FReplacing_Existing_Packages > Any change like that could help. :) Thanks for the effort! -- devel ma

Re: Running a command in spec file?

2013-08-29 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 29.8.2013 10:19, Stanislav Ochotnicky napsal(a): Quoting Dave Johansen (2013-08-28 21:58:38) On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Remi Collet wrote: Le 28/08/2013 18:09, Dave Johansen a écrit : I'm trying to make a spec file that uses the devtoolset in RHEL 5/6 ( rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-20

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-08-29 16:00 UTC)

2013-08-29 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Jeu 29 août 2013 01:11, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit : >> #topic #336 Please clarify the General Naming Guidelines for packages >> .fpc 336 >> https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/336 BTW Fedora font packages allow lowercase naming only. The notion that tarball naming reflects in any accurate way

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Packages depending on retired packages

2013-08-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 09:57:18 +0200, 80 wrote: > By mere curiosity, why didn't we follow the usual renaming process (and > avoid losing the previous history in git) ? > It was just an upstream rename due to a trademark issue. The rename process may have been followed, but the renamed packages have

Re: Running a command in spec file?

2013-08-29 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 08/29/2013 10:19 AM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: %{?scl:scl enable %{scl} "} # this is a shell command 1 command 2 ... %{?scl:"} Just one command with this syntax. If you need more command, you have to use heredoc as Vít said in this thread. -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCE, RHCDS Red Hat, Software

Re: Orphaning of freemind and all my remaining Java packages

2013-08-29 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
Quoting Johannes Lips (2013-08-29 09:00:28) > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Johannes Lips > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I finally came to the conclusion, that I no longer want to invest time and > > effort in keeping all my Java packages in good shape. I don't have the time > > anymore to un

Re: Builder update

2013-08-29 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 08/29/2013 11:47 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 29.8.2013 08:05, Panu Matilainen napsal(a): For a practical example of the timescale of this "process" as things have been so far: opt-in install-time macro-expansion of scriptlets was implemented upstream in March 2010 and has been in Fedora since

Re: [RFC] Easiest making kernel rpms from upstream git

2013-08-29 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 08/28/2013 08:31 PM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: > On 08/28/2013 07:23 PM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: >> Today I've wrote article w/ many notes about bisecting kernel [0], but >> I've used make bzImage, make install and the same commands bypassing RPM >> and I have IMHO good idea to write utility, that w

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Packages depending on retired packages

2013-08-29 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:53:53PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: > Package(co)maintainers > === > directfb orphan, kwizart >

Re: Running a command in spec file?

2013-08-29 Thread Dave Johansen
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > On 08/29/2013 10:19 AM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > >> %{?scl:scl enable %{scl} "} >> # this is a shell >> command 1 >> command 2 >> ... >> %{?scl:"} >> > > Just one command with this syntax. If you need more command, you have to > use he

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Packages depending on retired packages

2013-08-29 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:09:12AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > And retiring packages is too difficult in Fedora. The process is > complex or not known by all packagers: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life > > Some retire only in pkgdb (some create orph

[perl-XML-LibXML/f18] Rebuilt with newer libxml2

2013-08-29 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
commit a304e69913df90663d87b3c3474d0d346ec8ac45 Author: Jitka Plesnikova Date: Thu Aug 29 12:52:54 2013 +0200 Rebuilt with newer libxml2 perl-XML-LibXML.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-XML-LibXML.spec b/perl-XML-LibXML.spec index 0

Re: Running a command in spec file?

2013-08-29 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 08/29/2013 12:04 PM, Dave Johansen wrote: So does that mean that this is the correct statement to put in the .spec file? %{?scl:scl enable %{scl} "} source /opt/rh/devtoolset-1.1/enable %{?scl:"} What is the %{?scl} macro doing? And am I using it correctly in the above? This scriplet: %{?

Re: Running a command in spec file?

2013-08-29 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 29.8.2013 11:17, Miroslav Suchý napsal(a): On 08/29/2013 10:19 AM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: %{?scl:scl enable %{scl} "} # this is a shell command 1 command 2 ... %{?scl:"} Just one command with this syntax. If you need more command, you have to use heredoc as Vít said in this thread.

Re: bisect on fedora kernels

2013-08-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:32 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 07:54 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: >> On 29 August 2013 01:53, Josh Boyer wrote: >> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> >> >> Just to follow up, thanks, your instructions for building worked fine >> >>

[Bug 903609] perl-XML-LibXSLT-1.80 is available

2013-08-29 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=903609 --- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System --- perl-XML-LibXSLT-1.80-1.fc18 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 18. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-XML-LibXSLT-1.80-1.fc18 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on t

Re: bisect on fedora kernels

2013-08-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:32 AM, Igor Gnatenko > wrote: >> On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 07:54 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: >>> On 29 August 2013 01:53, Josh Boyer wrote: >>> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >>> >>> >> Just to follow

Multiple Loopback Interfaces

2013-08-29 Thread John Chludzinski
I need to used multiple loopback addresses (interfaces) for an server application that communicates with multiple clients running on the same machine. Since a loopback interface short circuits the network stack (looping back in the IP layer) it is a more efficient means of communication, hence bet

Multiple Loopback Interfaces

2013-08-29 Thread John Chludzinski
I need to used multiple loopback addresses (interfaces) for an server application that communicates with multiple clients running on the same machine. Since a loopback interface short circuits the network stack (looping back in the IP layer) it is a more efficient means of communication, hence bet

Re: bisect on fedora kernels

2013-08-29 Thread Ian Malone
On 29 August 2013 13:32, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> Strange. The source is definitely still on that machine. I'll look >> into why it's not showing up on the webpage. > > Ok, you can clone it with: > > git clone git://fedorapeople.org/~jwboyer/koj

Re: Rebuilding in dependency order

2013-08-29 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 08/22/2013 07:35 PM, Björn Persson wrote: Miroslav Suchy wrote: On 08/22/2013 06:47 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Well, I noticed the rebuild was running only some times. I assume when they were there to launch the builds in that batch? Is there any way all the builds could be listed and just fire

File qpid-proton-0.5.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by mcpierce

2013-08-29 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-qpid_proton: fb2dc704e4d2727d664966f301bfb017 qpid-proton-0.5.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailma

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-29 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 08/22/2013 05:15 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: What things we do _now_ could be improved with the investment of some effort? Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will affect the mass re

Re: Multiple Loopback Interfaces

2013-08-29 Thread Juan Orti Alcaine
El Jueves, 29 de agosto de 2013 06:38:00 John Chludzinski escribió: > I need to used multiple loopback addresses (interfaces) for an server > application that communicates with multiple clients running on the same > machine. Since a loopback interface short circuits the network stack > (looping ba

Re: Multiple Loopback Interfaces

2013-08-29 Thread Neil Horman
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 06:34:57AM -0700, John Chludzinski wrote: > I need to used multiple loopback addresses (interfaces) for an server > application that communicates with multiple clients running on the same > machine. Since a loopback interface short circuits the network stack > (looping back

Re: Multiple Loopback Interfaces

2013-08-29 Thread Neil Horman
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 03:55:32PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 29.08.2013 15:53, schrieb Neil Horman: > > you can use the ip utility to create dummy network devices on top of your > > loopback device, but the better question is - why? Having multiple clients > > and > > servers on a si

Fedora 20 Alpha TC2 AMI's

2013-08-29 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, images for Alpha TC2 have been uploaded to us-east-1 i386: eb82cf82 x86_64: ami-1583ce7c Happy Testing Dennis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIfVnoACgkQkSxm47BaWfcaYwCgmIms/nBOFUld5PjzM89hxZLp

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Packages depending on retired packages

2013-08-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:52:25 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > I guess you won't get responses to packages that are orphaned, because > then the bug report is assigned to the orphan user. Only few were orphaned when filing the bugs. I just didn't think about using the pkgdb API to fetch the list. > > D

Re: Multiple Loopback Interfaces

2013-08-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote: > In IPv4 you can get any IP in the 127.0.0.0/8 subnet for the lo interface. And in current fedora, they are already assigned to localhost. You can ping 127.0.0.22 if you want. AIUI, you can bind to it freely, too. m -- martin.langh

Re: Fedora 20 Alpha TC2 AMI's

2013-08-29 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 09:11:01AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > images for Alpha TC2 have been uploaded to us-east-1 > i386: eb82cf82 > x86_64: ami-1583ce7c Thanks Dennis! Booted one up and it looks good at very first glance. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ -- devel mail

[Bug 999370] perl-POE-Test-Loops-1.352 is available

2013-08-29 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=999370 Petr Šabata changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED|CLOSED Fixed In Version|

Re: Rebuilding in dependency order

2013-08-29 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 08/29/2013 07:42 AM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: You make it sound like Peter has a tool for rebuilding in dependency order. I need such a thing. Can it be made to work for other things than Perl? It can take a list of packages and count dependencies, so it could be used for different languag

Re: Multiple Loopback Interfaces

2013-08-29 Thread John Chludzinski
Both 127.0.0.7 and 127.0.0.10 exist in /etc/hosts for the client apps to use when connecting to the server.The clients use both gethostbyname() and getservbyname() for connecting. Currently, there are *no* multiple loopback interfaces defined. I wrote my own example TCP socket code to test

Re: Multiple Loopback Interfaces

2013-08-29 Thread Neil Horman
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 08:32:56AM -0700, John Chludzinski wrote: > Both 127.0.0.7 and 127.0.0.10 exist in /etc/hosts for the client apps to > use when connecting to the server.The clients use both > gethostbyname() and getservbyname() for connecting. Currently, there > are *no* multiple loopb

Review Request 47: Remove extra messages during sync

2013-08-29 Thread Tim Flink
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard-tflink.rhcloud.com/r/47/ --- Review request for blockerbugs. Bugs: 411 https://fedorahosted.org/

Re: EPEL pypy 2.1; sandbox, with shared library

2013-08-29 Thread Guo, Dan (WorldQuant)
Thank you, Kevin. I will re-subscribe with dan@worldquant.com. Will do what you suggest. Thanks, Dan -Original Message- From: Kevin Fenzi [mailto:ke...@scrye.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:13 PM To: EPEL Development List Cc: Guo, Dan (WorldQuant); 'Ralph Angenendt' Subject

Re: Multiple Loopback Interfaces

2013-08-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.08.2013 15:53, schrieb Neil Horman: > you can use the ip utility to create dummy network devices on top of your > loopback device, but the better question is - why? Having multiple clients > and > servers on a single system doesn't in any way require multiple loopback > interfaces. just

Re: Multiple Loopback Interfaces

2013-08-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.08.2013 15:38, schrieb John Chludzinski: > I need to used multiple loopback addresses (interfaces) for an server > application that communicates with multiple clients running on the same > machine. Since a loopback interface short circuits the network stack > (looping back in the IP layer)

Re: Multiple Loopback Interfaces

2013-08-29 Thread Reindl Harald
BTW: try to ping 127.0.0.1, 127.0.0.2, 127.0.0.3 here they are pingable as default the instruction below if only needed if the application checks that a configured IP exists via ifconfig or lookalike Am 29.08.2013 15:46, schrieb Reindl Harald: > Am 29.08.2013 15:38, schrieb John Chl

Re: Multiple Loopback Interfaces

2013-08-29 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 15:46 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 29.08.2013 15:38, schrieb John Chludzinski: > > I need to used multiple loopback addresses (interfaces) for an server > > application that communicates with multiple clients running on the same > > machine. Since a loopback interface

Where does loopback short circuit ?

2013-08-29 Thread John Chludzinski
I've had a debate with some co-workers about whether or not a message that's sent to the loopback interface makes it way into the IP layer and is fragmented before flowing back up the network stack.  Does it?   ---John -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraprojec

Re: Where does loopback short circuit ?

2013-08-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:02:27AM -0700, John Chludzinski wrote: > I've had a debate with some co-workers about whether or not a message > that's sent to the loopback interface makes it way into the IP layer and > is fragmented before flowing back up the network stack.  Does it? Can you please no

Re: Builder update

2013-08-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 09:05:24 +0300 Panu Matilainen wrote: ...snip... > Let me say AWESOME one more time :) :) I actually didn't know that this was so much of a bottleneck for you folks. ;( Anyhow, glad we can move forward and hopefully get things rolling faster. > > Of course it does mea

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Packages depending on retired packages

2013-08-29 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 04:15:15PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Undead and all builds obsoleted: > > drupal6-drush > obsoleted by: php-drush-drush > jaxen-bootstrap > obsoleted by: jaxen > joystick > obsoleted by: linuxconsoletools > kdirstat >

X2Go - plea for reviewers

2013-08-29 Thread Orion Poplawski
So, after some quick initial progress, we seemed to have stalled out on the X2Go package reviews. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA, Boulder/CoRA Office FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane

X2Go - plea for reviewers

2013-08-29 Thread Orion Poplawski
So, after some quick initial progress, we seemed to have stalled out on the X2Go package reviews. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. See: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/X2Go#Scope for packages to review. -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222

Re: Where does loopback short circuit ?

2013-08-29 Thread Les Howell
On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 18:04 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:02:27AM -0700, John Chludzinski wrote: > > I've had a debate with some co-workers about whether or not a message > > that's sent to the loopback interface makes it way into the IP layer and > > is fragmented b

Re: Where does loopback short circuit ?

2013-08-29 Thread Neil Horman
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 01:06:23PM -0700, Les Howell wrote: > On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 18:04 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:02:27AM -0700, John Chludzinski wrote: > > > I've had a debate with some co-workers about whether or not a message > > > that's sent to the loopb

Re: Builder update

2013-08-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On 29 Aug 2013 18:12, "Kevin Fenzi" wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 09:05:24 +0300 > Panu Matilainen wrote: > > ...snip... > > > Let me say AWESOME one more time :) > > :) > > I actually didn't know that this was so much of a bottleneck for you > folks. ;( > > Anyhow, glad we can move forward and

Re: Builder update

2013-08-29 Thread Jay Greguske
On 08/29/2013 01:10 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 09:05:24 +0300 > Panu Matilainen wrote: > > ...snip... > >> Let me say AWESOME one more time :) > > :) > > I actually didn't know that this was so much of a bottleneck for you > folks. ;( > > Anyhow, glad we can move forward a

Re: Builder update

2013-08-29 Thread Peter Robinson
> > > I'm not saying this was a bad idea, but the Koji developers now have to > test on both RHEL 6 and Fedora now. Let this message serve as a warning > to them if they did not already know. ;) They already were anyway due to the ARM builders in secondary so they've been getting reports from us

Re: Fedora 20 Alpha TC2 AMI's

2013-08-29 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 09:11:01AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> images for Alpha TC2 have been uploaded to us-east-1 >> i386: eb82cf82 >> x86_64: ami-1583ce7c > > Thanks Dennis! Booted one up and it looks good at very first glance. > > --

Re: Fedora 20 Alpha TC2 AMI's

2013-08-29 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 03:21:36PM -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > >> i386: eb82cf82 > >> x86_64: ami-1583ce7c > > Thanks Dennis! Booted one up and it looks good at very first glance. > How does one bring one down? You can download the same images in raw.xz or qcow2 format from http://alt.fedorapr

Re: Fedora 20 Alpha TC2 AMI's

2013-08-29 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 03:21:36PM -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: >> >> i386: eb82cf82 >> >> x86_64: ami-1583ce7c >> > Thanks Dennis! Booted one up and it looks good at very first glance. >> How does one bring one down? > > You can download t

Self Introduction

2013-08-29 Thread Matias Kreder
Hello friends, I have been part of the Fedora Project for several years (mainly as an Ambassador) and now I've decided to join the Packaging team! I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina, I work for IBM and I only have to pass 1 exam (RH401) to become a RHCA. I have been using Linux since the 90's. Star

Re: Builder update

2013-08-29 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:59:44 -0400 Jay Greguske escribió: > On 08/29/2013 01:10 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 09:05:24 +0300 > > Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > > ...snip... > > > >> Let me say AWESOME one more time :) > > > > :) >

Re: Running a command in spec file?

2013-08-29 Thread Dave Johansen
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > On 08/29/2013 12:04 PM, Dave Johansen wrote: > >> So does that mean that this is the correct statement to put in the .spec >> file? >> >> %{?scl:scl enable %{scl} "} >> source /opt/rh/devtoolset-1.1/enable >> %{?scl:"} >> >> What is the %{?