john.flor...@dart.biz (john.flor...@dart.biz) said:
> > Or you can de-install rsyslog and have everything as you love it.
>
> Which makes more sense: take a default and modify it via composition ...
> or take a default and modify it via decomposition?
>
> I'd always choose the former, regardles
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 04:11:47PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > In an ideal view, it makes most sense to provide the rsyslog default
> > configuration in a subpackage which puts the /var/log/messages and
> > /var/log/secure conf files in /etc/rsyslog.d -- then, this subpackage would
> > provid
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Test-Kwalitee:
0dde5511d67dd592ca8490ff9c6984ea Test-Kwalitee-1.09.tar.gz
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On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 18:08 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:12:03PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > So, to put a number on it, does that mean _at_ the change freeze and
> > > branch
> > > which is "no earlier than 2013-08-06"?
> > As things stand, yeah. I think for F1
On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 09:39 +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> > In fact, now I look at it, ntpd as it stands cannot replace ntpdate for
> > anaconda's purposes, because anaconda calls ntpdate with the -q option,
> > which means "query only, do not set the clock" - obviously, this is
> > appropriate
commit a56d7c46143a553b5a169de05ed02182a8aa80d9
Author: Paul Howarth
Date: Thu Jul 18 21:31:09 2013 +0100
Update to 1.09
- New upstream release 1.09
- The has_test_pod, has_test_pod_coverage tests have been removed - they
are
classified as 'extra', and have been larg
Panu Matilainen (pmati...@laiskiainen.org) said:
> So... /var/log/messages is not guaranteed to be there even now,
> because it depends on rsyslog configuration. So any packages which
> cannot handle missing /var/log/messages are broken already in a
> non-default (but probably not all that uncommo
On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 10:59 -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
> On 07/18/2013 08:09 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 17.07.13 22:35, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote:
> >
> > > This should be simpler than forcing those stubborn mind (such as me) to
> > > change,
> > > No?
> > We don't fo
Once upon a time, Adam Williamson said:
> Sure, but that's part of ntp, and we're supposed to be using chrony as
> Fedora's default time sync software now. It just seems untidy for
> anaconda to configure chrony but need to use a part of ntp (ntpdate or
> sntp) to test server functionality.
Well,
Hi All,
I'm very happy to announce the first release (r1) of my Fedora 19 ARM
remix images for Allwinner A10, A10s, A13 and A20 based devices. This
release is based on the official Fedora 19 Final for ARM images,
with u-boot and kernel(s) from the linux-sunxi project:
http://linux-sunxi.org/
Bes
On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 09:53 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> /usr/bin/python should refer to python2 --
> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/ I'd be -1 to changing this
But when python2 is no longer installed by default, surely you want to
get a python prompt when you type 'python'?
sign
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 01:34:40PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Sure, but that's part of ntp, and we're supposed to be using chrony as
> Fedora's default time sync software now. It just seems untidy for
> anaconda to configure chrony but need to use a part of ntp (ntpdate or
> sntp) to test serv
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 04:35:22PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Yes, it's just that if we're moving these packages from being broken in a
> non-default, administrator-configured configuration to being broken in the
> out-of-the-box configuration, it might be worthwhile to know that ahead of
> ti
- Original Message -
> john.flor...@dart.biz (john.flor...@dart.biz) said:
> > > Or you can de-install rsyslog and have everything as you love it.
> >
> > Which makes more sense: take a default and modify it via composition ...
> > or take a default and modify it via decomposition?
> >
- Original Message -
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 14:58 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > We ask this constantly on Fedora. Because Fedora is where innovation is
> > supposed to take place, not where things are stay frozen in carbonite
> > forever.
> >
> > (And let's never forget that Fedo
Hi
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
>
>
>
> http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-tuning/cha.tuning.logfiles.html
>
> Looks like they either still have /var/log/messages,
> or their documentation team are lazy.
>
Be careful about such assumptions. Th
- Original Message -
> On Wed, 17.07.13 22:08, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > > Well, this won't "break" systems as the change is only for new
> > > installations. Existing systems will stay exactly as they are, rsyslog
> > > stays installed, and will work as always.
> >
>
- Original Message -
> On Wed, 17.07.13 22:35, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > This should be simpler than forcing those stubborn mind (such as me) to
> > change,
> > No?
>
> We don't force anyone. You can just install rsyslog and you have
> everything as you love it.
And
- Original Message -
> Hi
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
> > http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-tuning/cha.tuning.logfiles.html
>
> > Looks like they either still have /var/log/messages,
>
> > or their documentation team are lazy.
>
On Jul 18, 2013 5:42 PM, "Michael Catanzaro"
wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 09:53 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > /usr/bin/python should refer to python2 --
> > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/ I'd be -1 to changing this
> But when python2 is no longer installed by default, surely
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:24:22AM -0400, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
>
> From packaging point of view, this will probably require:
> 1) Renaming python package to python2
> 2) Renaming python3 package to python
> 3) Switching the %{?with_python3} conditionals in specfiles to
> %{?with_python2} (we wi
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:23:10 -0400,
Kamil Paral wrote:
> Is there still a plan to do builds of the normal install iso,
> analagous to the nightly composes for live images?
Yep. Dennis was going to look into doing some kind of weekly dvd iso
compose.
I'm not sure DVD is worthwhile, and i
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Robert Marcano
wrote:
> Not all fonts installed had the same licensing requirement, people install
> fonts from other places that are not as careful as Fedora with the licenses.
> It is problematic if someone install a non free font to be used on their
> desktop ap
On 07/19/2013 05:44 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Jul 18, 2013 5:42 PM, "Michael Catanzaro" mailto:mike.catanz...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 09:53 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > /usr/bin/python should refer to python2 --
> > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/ I'd
- Original Message -
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:24:22AM -0400, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > as a new Fedora Python maintainer, I have set myself a goal of moving
> > Fedora to Python 3 as a default.
>
> I'm not sure we want to make python3 default depending on what your
> defin
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