Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.05.2013 22:48, schrieb Ben Cotton: > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > >> gnome-getting-started-docs.noarch <-- is this really needed? Why >> doesn't Gnome 3 get docs online or something? >> > It's entirely possible that someone who is downloading the DVD image > intends

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Robert Relyea wrote: >> Thunderbird is new? Drop it. > > Hardly new since I've been using it on Fedora for 8 years now. > > bob > > New to the DVD. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: > It's entirely possible that someone who is downloading the DVD

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Matthias Runge
On 05/01/2013 10:21 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) said: >> I think we should look at package dependencies. It seems that lots of >> unnecessary packages are being pulled when composing media. > > Here's everything new in the F19 DVD, sorted by size. I've dropped >

Request for focused testing on containers (LVM, btrfs) in F19 Beta TCs

2013-05-02 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi, folks. I wanted to pass along a special request from the anaconda team for those of you who are helping to test the Beta TCs (for which, thanks!) There are some substantial changes to the handling of containers in custom partitioning that landed just prior to the TCs starting up. Containers ar

[GSoC13] Implement a binding translator for GlusterFS

2013-05-02 Thread Tiago Lam
Hello everyone, I've finalized my proposal for GSoC 13, in which I will be implementing a binding translator for GlusterFS. The main links follow. Fedora wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GSOC_2013/Student_Application_tiagolam Google-Melange: https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/proposal/r

Re: Packaging alien, debhelper and po-debconf

2013-05-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 03:00:34AM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591190 I'm prepared to take debhelper. But: (1) It looks like the latest package is over 1 year old. I think a newer package should be presented (in this bug or in a newly opened one). (

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 16:48:28 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: gnome-getting-started-docs.noarch <-- is this really needed? Why doesn't Gnome 3 get docs online or something? It's entirely possible that someone who is downloading the DVD image i

Re: Self introduction, and maintaining MySQL package

2013-05-02 Thread Bjorn Munch
On 01/05 11.58, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:08:08 +0200, Bjorn Munch wrote: > > > Since I do not yet have a sponsor, I cannot upload to > > fedorapeople.org. > > That is misinformation. Note the bottom of the following paragraph: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_

Re: Python reviews needed

2013-05-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > I have some python packages that need reviewing: > > python-traitsui - > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/**show_bug.cgi?id=829580 > python-envisage - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Jeffrey Bastian
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 01:55:29PM -0700, Robert Relyea wrote: > > Thunderbird is new? Drop it. > > Hardly new since I've been using it on Fedora for 8 years now. It's not a new package. Rather, it's new for the installation DVD. Fedora 18 did not include thunderbird on the install DVD: http://

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 05/01/2013 09:03 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > The F19 DVD is currently *way* over size. (i686: 417MB, x86_64: 311MB). > That's almost certainly more than can be fixed by trimming around the > edges; we need to remove actual functionality that's on the DVD. > > Options include: > > 1) One/some

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Bill Nottingham
(batching a couple of replies) Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) said: > I notice that both mariadb-server and community-mysql-server are on > the list. Given that FESCo decided some time ago that the "preferred" > version was going to be MariaDB (but that we were going to permit > MySQL to

Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Ravindra Kumar
Hi, It is going to very useful for users if we install open-vm-tools inside a VM on VMware always. For this, I'm proposing following design: 1. Add open-vm-tools to the core package group 2. Modify Anaconda to uninstall open-vm-tools after installation if install is not running on a VM on V

[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 2 (TC2) Available Now!

2013-05-02 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: All DVD and Live images except KDE Live and SoaS Live are still oversize (as they have been since 19 Alpha TC3). As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 2 (TC2) is now available for testing. Content information, including changes, can be found at https://fedorahosted.o

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Matthias Runge
On 05/01/2013 10:39 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > > Why is wayland being included? Last I checked we are still using X11. > > 42596 wayland-devel.x86_64 > 21216 libwayland-client-devel.x86_64 > 14860 libwayland-cursor.x86_64 > 7204libwayland-cursor-devel.x86_64 > > > > Thunderbird

Re: take your bullshit from public maling lists

2013-05-02 Thread Richard Vickery
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 3:26 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > keep you NON-FEDORA political bullshit offlist > > if you have quetstions provide informations about your environemnt > if you are not able to provide this informations read the fucking > manuals to learn the basiscs to express you and your pr

Re: Idea: "{Gnome,KDE,Xfce,...} Minimal Desktop" groups

2013-05-02 Thread Kalev Lember
On 01/05/13 01:37, Sandro Mani wrote: > On 30.04.2013 11:38, Kalev Lember wrote: >> On 29/04/13 16:58, Sandro Mani wrote: >>> (FWIW, I guess telepathy-logger should be a dependency of gnome-shell) >> I'll look into adding the telepathy-logger dep to gnome-shell. I guess >> something should have a d

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Bill Nottingham writes: The F19 DVD is currently *way* over size. (i686: 417MB, x86_64: 311MB). That's almost certainly more than can be fixed by trimming around the edges; we need to remove actual functionality that's on the DVD. Options include: 1) One/some of the desktops F19 DVD currently

Fedora ARM weekly Status Meeting Minutes 2013-05-01

2013-05-02 Thread Paul Whalen
Thanks to those that were able to join for the status meeting today, for those unable the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-05-01/fedora-meeting-1.2013-05-01-20.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/20

Re: [Fedora-spins] F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 16:21:09 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) said: I think we should look at package dependencies. It seems that lots of unnecessary packages are being pulled when composing media. Here's everything new in the F19 DVD, sorted by size. I've

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Omair Majid
On 05/01/2013 04:21 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > I've dropped > java-1.8.0-openjdk in the kickstart already, but that won't be enough. As a maintainer of java-1.8.0-openjdk, I am sad to see it get dropped, but given the circumstances, this makes sense. It's a preview after all. > Here's everyt

About /run/media

2013-05-02 Thread Sergio Belkin
Hi folks, In this case is not my will express my complains about why removable devices are mounted on /run/media but I'd want to know how udisks/udev/systemd/whoever chooses where it will mount the device, and even took a look to logs, udev and udisks monitor, nothing, nothing at all I was looking

Re: [GSoC13] Implement a binding translator for GlusterFS

2013-05-02 Thread Sarup Banskota
Hi Tiago, You'd have to make the proposal public in order for everyone to be able to view it. Alternatively, you could link to the wiki that contains it. Thank you, Sarup Banskota On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Tiago Lam wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I've finalized my proposal for GSoC 13, in

File IO-Socket-SSL-1.88.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2013-05-02 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-IO-Socket-SSL: 83cdb29cba4d5ac892b7edefe2566a42 IO-Socket-SSL-1.88.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/m

rawhide report: 20130502 changes

2013-05-02 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu May 2 08:15:04 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [InsightToolkit] InsightToolkit-4.3.1-10.fc20.i686 requires libgdcmMSFF.so.2.0 InsightToolkit-4.3.1-10.fc20.i686 requires libgdcmIOD.so.2.0 Insi

[perl-Text-Hunspell/f19] Update to 2.08

2013-05-02 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: f0916b5... Update to 2.08 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Simone Caronni
Hello, On 2 May 2013 05:31, Ravindra Kumar wrote: > 1. Add open-vm-tools to the core package group > 2. Modify Anaconda to uninstall open-vm-tools after installation if > install is not running on a VM on VMware > Install and uninstall looks a bit weird to me; what could be done is to make the

[perl-CPAN-Changes/f19] Update to 0.20

2013-05-02 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: cba8def... Update to 0.20 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

Re: [GSoC13] Implement a binding translator for GlusterFS

2013-05-02 Thread Uditha Bandara Wijerathna
> Hello everyone, > Hi, > Google-Melange: > > https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2013/tiagolam/1 > > Just to note one thing. Your google-melange proposal is not set to public. So that everyone cannot view that. Cheers! -- - Uditha Bandara Wijerathna - - Fedora P

[Bug 958178] perl-Encode-2.51 is available

2013-05-02 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958178 --- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System --- perl-Encode-2.51-1.fc19 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 19. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Encode-2.51-1.fc19 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread drago01
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) said: >>> I think we should look at package dependencies. It seems that lots of >>> unnecessary packages are being pulled when composing media. >> >> He

[Bug 958180] perl-LWP-Protocol-https-6.04 is available

2013-05-02 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958180 --- Comment #1 from Petr Pisar --- Bug-fix release suitable for F≥18. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=lH63Z5I1ix&a=cc

File LWP-Protocol-https-6.04.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2013-05-02 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-LWP-Protocol-https: 1b422a7d3b5fed1eb4d748fdc9fd79a4 LWP-Protocol-https-6.04.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedorapro

[perl-LWP-Protocol-https] 6.04 bump

2013-05-02 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 8a8c122936d92a1792df3db01fdcde5fa97f1f91 Author: Petr Písař Date: Thu May 2 14:12:42 2013 +0200 6.04 bump .gitignore |1 + .rpmlint |2 ++ perl-LWP-Protocol-https.spec |7 +-- sources |2 +- 4 files chan

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Matthias Runge
On 05/02/2013 05:31 AM, Ravindra Kumar wrote: > Hi, > > It is going to very useful for users if we install open-vm-tools inside > a VM on VMware always. > > For this, I'm proposing following design: > 1. Add open-vm-tools to the core package group > 2. Modify Anaconda to uninstall open-vm-tools a

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 20:31 -0700, Ravindra Kumar wrote: > Hi, > > > It is going to very useful for users if we install open-vm-tools > inside a VM on VMware always. > > > For this, I'm proposing following design: > 1. Add open-vm-tools to the core package group > > 2. Modify Anaconda to unins

[perl/f18] Remove 5 bundled packages

2013-05-02 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 8b7ed5d1c147deabf46276408e384ac654561d2c Author: Petr Písař Date: Thu May 2 12:05:45 2013 +0200 Remove 5 bundled packages Carp, ExtUtils-Manifest, parent, Test-Simple, Version-Requirements, threads. These do not have higher version of standalone package, so they

File Test-Harness-3.27.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2013-05-02 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Test-Harness: 41ca117daa9086f80d045097d4c2f72b Test-Harness-3.27.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mai

[perl-Test-Harness] 3.27 bump

2013-05-02 Thread Petr Pisar
commit a40a86b90fc9cd8c74dda96f1bdce33b3b9f364c Author: Petr Písař Date: Thu May 2 14:22:01 2013 +0200 3.27 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Test-Harness.spec |5 - sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/.gitig

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 05/02/2013 10:05 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: On 05/01/2013 10:21 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) said: I think we should look at package dependencies. It seems that lots of unnecessary packages are being pulled when composing media. Here's everything new in the F

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 02:17:27PM +0200, Matthias Runge wrote: > On 05/02/2013 05:31 AM, Ravindra Kumar wrote: > > Hi, > > > > It is going to very useful for users if we install open-vm-tools inside > > a VM on VMware always. > > > > For this, I'm proposing following design: > > 1. Add open-vm-t

[Bug 958180] perl-LWP-Protocol-https-6.04 is available

2013-05-02 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958180 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED Fixed In Version

[Bug 958180] perl-LWP-Protocol-https-6.04 is available

2013-05-02 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958180 --- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System --- perl-LWP-Protocol-https-6.04-1.fc19 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 19. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-LWP-Protocol-https-6.04-1.fc19 -- You are receiving thi

[Bug 958180] perl-LWP-Protocol-https-6.04 is available

2013-05-02 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958180 --- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System --- perl-LWP-Protocol-https-6.04-1.fc18 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 18. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-LWP-Protocol-https-6.04-1.fc18 -- You are receiving thi

[Bug 958185] perl-Test-Harness-3.27 is available

2013-05-02 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958185 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In Version|

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: > How does this work together with VMwares hint, to remove open-vm-tools > distributed by linux distributions at all? > > > http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1013096 > > Yeah. T

Re: take your bullshit from public maling lists

2013-05-02 Thread Matthias Runge
On 05/02/2013 06:07 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: > Reindl, > > They should have moderated you and your mouth, and pen off of this list > a long, long time ago. Just stop it! Looking at the threads, both of you were not as excellent as you could. Taking this even to a wider distribution doesn't mak

Re: [GSoC13] Implement a binding translator for GlusterFS

2013-05-02 Thread Tiago Lam
> Just to note one thing. Your google-melange proposal is not set to > public. So that everyone cannot view that. > > Cheers! Oops, missed that step, my bad. It's now fixed. Thank you Sarup and Uditha for the warning. :) Regards. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://adm

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:05 AM, drago01 wrote: > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Bill Nottingham > wrote: > >> Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) said: > > > > > Why is wayland being included? Last I checked we are still using X11. > >

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 02:37:00 +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote: Why are we tied to DVD-5, 4.7GB (4.3GiB) at all? I think the target is actually 4 GiB for file system reasons. It makes downloading to some older files systems possible. Do we distribute DVDs? If so couldn't we use a newer DVD

[perl-App-cpanminus] Correct changelog

2013-05-02 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 5c3b29419e568f17eb0a7f88c4255a9c56343ade Author: Petr Písař Date: Thu May 2 14:42:47 2013 +0200 Correct changelog perl-App-cpanminus.spec |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-App-cpanminus.spec b/perl-App-cpanminus.spec index 8e80e32..1c

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 20:26:13 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Bill Nottingham writes: Anyway, here are my suggestions: valgrind eclipse gimp kdegames I don't think gimp is that great of a choice to drop. That's a tool that I think some of the less technical of our users might want to use

Re: About /run/media

2013-05-02 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 07:36 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote: > Hi folks, > In this case is not my will express my complains about why removable > devices are mounted on /run/media but I'd want to know how > udisks/udev/systemd/whoever chooses where it will mount the device, > and even took a look to log

F-19 Branched report: 20130502 changes

2013-05-02 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Thu May 2 09:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [byzanz] byzanz-0.3-0.5.fc17.x86_64 requires libpanel-applet-4.so.0()(64bit) [deltacloud-core] deltacloud-core-1.0.5-2.fc19.noarch requires ruby(abi) =

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Matthias Runge
On 05/02/2013 01:30 PM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: > It depends what should dvd offer. I guess we want there everything cool, > so new users don't have to install additional packages outside of dvd. > Otherwise we could offer only minimal installation. > > Marcela Exactly. Would anybody expect to s

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread John Reiser
On 05/01/2013 06:37 PM, Pádraig Brady wrote: > Why are we tied to DVD-5, 4.7GB (4.3GiB) at all? > Do we distribute DVDs? Yes. Check with Fedora Ambassadors in EMEA. > If so couldn't we use a newer DVD standard? That would reduce coverage significantly. The de facto standard (what "customers" h

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Ben Cotton
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: > Would anybody expect to set up a development system without networking > connection? Maybe they're frequently on the road or only develop for their local machine. Is it a rare use case? Probably. The big issue with this discussion is that

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 1.5.2013 22:21, Bill Nottingham napsal(a): Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) said: I think we should look at package dependencies. It seems that lots of unnecessary packages are being pulled when composing media. Here's everything new in the F19 DVD, sorted by size. I've dropped java-1.8.0-

Re: [GSoC13] Implement a binding translator for GlusterFS

2013-05-02 Thread Sarup Banskota
Tiago, Just skimmed through your write-ups and noted a few (trivial) points: 1. It's good if you could fix some grammar - Capitalizing the 'i's, InterCapping words like "GitHub" and so on. 2. The melange page has provisions for bulleting, so it's a good idea to make use of that instead of

Re: [Fedora-spins] F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Bill Nottingham
Bruno Wolff III (br...@wolff.to) said: > On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 16:21:09 -0400, > Bill Nottingham wrote: > >Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) said: > >>I think we should look at package dependencies. It seems that lots of > >>unnecessary packages are being pulled when composing media. > > > >H

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread John5342
On 2 May 2013 15:15, "John Reiser" wrote: > > On 05/01/2013 06:37 PM, Pádraig Brady wrote: > > > Why are we tied to DVD-5, 4.7GB (4.3GiB) at all? > > Do we distribute DVDs? > > Yes. Check with Fedora Ambassadors in EMEA. > > > If so couldn't we use a newer DVD standard? > > That would reduce cove

Re: Self introduction, and maintaining MySQL package

2013-05-02 Thread Honza Horak
On 05/02/2013 09:07 AM, Bjorn Munch wrote:> On 01/05 11.58, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:08:08 +0200, Bjorn Munch wrote: >> >>> Since I do not yet have a sponsor, I cannot upload to >>> fedorapeople.org. >> >> That is misinformation. Note the bottom of the following paragraph

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, John5342 said: > I think USB sticks will become much more usable when Fedora allows booting > from iso images like some other distributions already do. Currently the > standard way involves completely overwriting everything on the stick (1 > distribution per stick). I belive thi

Re: [Fedora-spins] F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > (batching a couple of replies) > > That would be up to the Cinnamon maintainer, who is the one that > is including it. > As cinnamon comaintainer and MATE maintainer I'll switch them both to evolution today. Dan -- devel mailing list deve

Re: About /dev/console!

2013-05-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013, Sergio Belkin wrote: Subject: About /dev/console! What is used  /dev/console! file for  (note exclamation mark) ? that's not a valid file in fedora (or I expect any other unix) It might have been created by a shell script error that had root permission? Paul -- devel ma

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 2, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > This is pretty much what happened with CD images. Eventually this will > change, but it isn't clear to me that this is the right time to make that > change. CentOS 6 uses two DVD images. Apple, before dropping DVD's with new computers,

Re: [urw-fonts] post scriptlet cleanup, dont redirect it to dev/null either

2013-05-02 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Tom Callaway wrote: > commit bed9f6298d450f371265ad7434e52f6f4a1cb56f > Author: Tom Callaway > Date: Thu May 2 12:24:26 2013 -0400 > > post scriptlet cleanup, dont redirect it to dev/null either > > urw-fonts.spec |7 +-- > 1 files changed, 5 insert

Re: [urw-fonts] post scriptlet cleanup, dont redirect it to dev/null either

2013-05-02 Thread Tom Callaway
On 05/02/2013 12:32 PM, Jerry James wrote: > Thanks for doing this! But can I point out that the "don't drop > output to /dev/null for debugging purposes" part of the changelog > entry doesn't seem to match the actual patch? This is why I shouldn't hack on things before lunch. Brain went into su

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Rex Dieter
Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Anyway, here are my suggestions: ... > kdegames I'll see if I can help make that happen (replaced by kdegames-minimal) -- rex -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Removal of pipe sink and source modules from Fedora pulse packages

2013-05-02 Thread Rex Dieter
Jeremy White wrote: > In this thread: > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/pulseaudio-discuss/2009-June/004215.html > > You express that the module-pipe-sink is a toy, and can't be used for > anything useful, and that you're going to remove it from the Fedora > packages. > > And, indeed, i

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread John5342
On 2 May 2013 16:59, "Chris Adams" wrote: > > Once upon a time, John5342 said: > > I think USB sticks will become much more usable when Fedora allows booting > > from iso images like some other distributions already do. Currently the > > standard way involves completely overwriting everything on

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Paolo Bonzini
Il 02/05/2013 18:08, Chris Murphy ha scritto: > On May 2, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >>> >>> This is pretty much what happened with CD images. Eventually this >>> will change, but it isn't clear to me that this is the right time >>> to make that change. > CentOS 6 uses two DVD im

[perl-CPAN-Meta-Check/f19] Initial import (perl-CPAN-Meta-Check-0.005-2)

2013-05-02 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 71e3fe0... Initial import (perl-CPAN-Meta-Check-0.005-2) (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Bill Nottingham
Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) said: > > On May 2, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > > > This is pretty much what happened with CD images. Eventually this will > > change, but it isn't clear to me that this is the right time to make that > > change. > > CentOS 6 uses tw

[Bug 871442] Broken configuration for httpd 2.4

2013-05-02 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=871442 Timothy M. Butterworth changed: What|Removed |Added CC||timothy.m.butter

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Is there actual data from what people 'yum install' we could use to make decisions? I suspect most people install from the desktop default media and then just add the stuff they want. If we know what that "stuff they want" is, that's what should be on the DVD. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Bil

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 08:31:38PM -0700, Ravindra Kumar wrote: > Hi, > > It is going to very useful for users if we install open-vm-tools inside a VM > on VMware always. > > For this, I'm proposing following design: > 1. Add open-vm-tools to the core package group > 2. Modify Anaconda to un

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Ravindra Kumar
(Batching a bunch of replies) > Install and uninstall looks a bit weird to me; what could be > done is to make the package conditionally whether it's running > in a VMware VM or not, much like it happens now for the EFI > packages (only installed on an EFI system) or the spice agent > (IIRC) if it

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Ravindra Kumar
> > I can't see, how this can happen anyways. Anaconda just runs once (at > > installation), afterwards it can safely be removed (correct me, if I'm > > wrong). > > > > Could you please explain, why this should be useful for all our users? I > > think it's more sensible to install, when running on

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Bill Nottingham
Ravindra Kumar (ravindraku...@vmware.com) said: > (Batching a bunch of replies) > > > Install and uninstall looks a bit weird to me; what could be > > done is to make the package conditionally whether it's running > > in a VMware VM or not, much like it happens now for the EFI > > packages (only

Re: take your bullshit from public maling lists

2013-05-02 Thread richard . vickeryrv
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Re: take your bullshit from public maling lists

2013-05-02 Thread ajay kulkarni
Well I'll be surprised if political issues are associated with open source community like fedora project. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:32 PM, wrote: > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. > *From: *Matthias Runge > *Sent: *Thursday, May 2, 2013 5:38 AM > *To: *devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: take your bullshit from public maling lists

2013-05-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
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Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.05.2013 19:40, schrieb Richard W.M. Jones: > On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 08:31:38PM -0700, Ravindra Kumar wrote: >> Hi, >> >> It is going to very useful for users if we install open-vm-tools inside a VM >> on VMware always. >> >> For this, I'm proposing following design: >> 1. Add open-vm-t

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Ravindra Kumar
> the open-vm-tools should be generally be splitted in packages > with and without X11 deps - below my personal SPEC file for > a fedora infrastructure on top of vSphere with all things you > need for "VMware DataRecovery"-backups and VMware-HighAbility > > you do not want any X11-deps and HGFS stu

Re: Removal of pipe sink and source modules from Fedora pulse packages

2013-05-02 Thread Jeremy White
> Mind filing a RFE bug requesting such @ bugzilla.redhat.com? Sure; it's here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958949 Cheers, Jeremy -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Mouse speed questions: GNOME, Xorg, oh my...

2013-05-02 Thread Adam Williamson
So, my rabbit hole of the morning is mouse cursor speed! Holy cow. I recently got a new laptop (Dell XPS 13 dev edition) and found that "the pointer seems too slow". Nowhere near as fast as I'm used to from my old laptop, or how I have my mice set generally. Had to drag around the touchpad for a w

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 2, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Chained images? We dropped split media support in the installer, so it > would need to be two different images without installer changes. Or a feature of first boot to call yum to install user selectable things such as the bigger apps, fr

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 10:34 -0700, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > Is there actual data from what people 'yum install' we could use to > make decisions? I suspect most people install from the desktop default > media and then just add the stuff they want. If we know what that > "stuff they want" is,

[Bug 871442] Broken configuration for httpd 2.4

2013-05-02 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=871442 --- Comment #7 from Timothy M. Butterworth --- Please set a high priority for the fix for NetDisco 1.1 as currently just installing NetDisco causes httpd not to startup properly after a reboot which creates a service outage for ot

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 10:08 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On May 2, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > > > This is pretty much what happened with CD images. Eventually this will > > change, but it isn't clear to me that this is the right time to make that > > change. > > CentOS

Re: Mouse speed questions: GNOME, Xorg, oh my...

2013-05-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 11:34 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > How is this ConstantDeceleration default set? It doesn't seem to be a > universal value; the mouse on my desktop, for instance, has it set to > 1.0. So is it set by the driver? By the server? Is it dependent on the > ID of the device? (wh

Re: New Fedora openid provider (fas-openid) in service

2013-05-02 Thread Patrick Uiterwijk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello, This should now be fixed in production as well. If you see the same bug, please notify me. Patrick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJRgr8YAAoJEIZXmA2atR5Q6sIQAIFBBDDFAD74g1lMJcW9g+3y 43dzhcvlnn+

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Simone Caronni
On 2 May 2013 19:40, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > I'm Ravindra's sponsor. > > Just to clarify a few points: > > - VMware are trying to work better with Fedora, and to help this along > I've been supervising him adding open-vm-tools to Fedora. > > - Because this is just starting out, there are a

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Jeu 2 mai 2013 19:49, Ravindra Kumar a écrit : >> > I can't see, how this can happen anyways. Anaconda just runs once (at >> > installation), afterwards it can safely be removed (correct me, if I'm >> > wrong). >> > >> > Could you please explain, why this should be useful for all our users? >>

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Jeu 2 mai 2013 14:34, Rahul Sundaram a écrit : > Hi > > > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: > >> How does this work together with VMwares hint, to remove open-vm-tools >> distributed by linux distributions at all? >> >> >> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.d

Re: Mouse speed questions: GNOME, Xorg, oh my...

2013-05-02 Thread Simone Caronni
On 2 May 2013 20:34, Adam Williamson wrote: > Any answers to the above appreciated :) I think I've reached my limit... The answer can only be 42. :D --Simone -- You cannot discover new oceans unless you have the courage to lose sight of the shore (R. W. Emerson). -- devel mailing list deve

Re: [GSoC13] Implement a binding translator for GlusterFS

2013-05-02 Thread Tiago Lam
On 05/02/2013 04:07 PM, Sarup Banskota wrote: > Tiago, > > Just skimmed through your write-ups and noted a few (trivial) points: Hi Sarup, thank you very much for that :) > 1. It's good if you could fix some grammar - Capitalizing the > 'i's, InterCapping words like "GitHub" and so on. Yeah

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 01:51:30PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Ravindra Kumar (ravindraku...@vmware.com) said: > > (Batching a bunch of replies) > > > > > Install and uninstall looks a bit weird to me; what could be > > > done is to make the package conditionally whether it's running > > > in

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-02 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 05/02/2013 03:00 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: FWIW I agree with the general trend of discussion so far: let's find things to drop that don't really need to be on the DVD so we can keep MATE and Cinnamon. You can install those from live images or from repos of course, just like anything else, bu

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