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> From: "Ian Malone"
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 9:51:41 AM
> Subject: Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop
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> On 11 February 2013 07:15, Casey Dahlin wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 11:
Brendan Jones wrote, at 02/11/2013 05:22 PM +9:00:
Summary of changes:
faf3146... Remove vendor from desktop file (*)
330426b... Correct desktop file install error (*)
(*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent
No, removing vendor prefix from desktop file m
On 02/11/2013 10:16 AM, Mamoru TASAKA wrote:
Brendan Jones wrote, at 02/11/2013 05:22 PM +9:00:
Summary of changes:
faf3146... Remove vendor from desktop file (*)
330426b... Correct desktop file install error (*)
(*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent
Brendan Jones wrote, at 02/11/2013 06:25 PM +9:00:
On 02/11/2013 10:16 AM, Mamoru TASAKA wrote:
Brendan Jones wrote, at 02/11/2013 05:22 PM +9:00:
Summary of changes:
faf3146... Remove vendor from desktop file (*)
330426b... Correct desktop file install error (*)
(*) This commit already
On Saturday 09 of February 2013 11:37:15 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > In Scope I see "KDE's networking layers likely require an update to use
> > the new API, as will any other direct client of ModemManager. However, the
> > functionality that most networking applets require fro
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 03:03:44PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Having a separate "tweak tool" is a lame workaround for lack of settings in
> the official tools. The only reason such "tweak tools" exist on proprietary
> operating systems is because the proprietary companies don't want to
> offic
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:12:32AM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 03:03:44PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Having a separate "tweak tool" is a lame workaround for lack of settings in
> > the official tools. The only reason such "tweak tools" exist on proprietary
> > operati
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 07:59:22PM +, Ian Malone wrote:
> In the end, more than any usability quibbles, the best reason to give
> up on a project is when it refuses to listen to its end users.
The GNOME release notes over various cycles have listed loads of changes
which have been made based o
ABRT changes since version 2.1.0
In an effort to simplify ABRT's reporting workflow we have decided to move the
default dump location from /var/spool/abrt to /var/tmp/abrt.
Users didn't have write access to dump directories located in /var/spool/abrt
and in order to provide writable directory fo
I remembered his clamav confused a lot of people.
在 2013-2-11 PM2:06，"Kevin Kofler" 写道：
> Paul Wouters wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 10 Feb 2013, Enrico Scholz wrote:
> >
> >> I will revert most of your changes. please avoid to apply your personal
> >> style
> >
> > Please remove tor-systemd and other "pe
Il giorno lun, 11/02/2013 alle 11.12 +0100, Olav Vitters ha scritto:
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 03:03:44PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Having a separate "tweak tool" is a lame workaround for lack of settings in
> > the official tools. The only reason such "tweak tools" exist on proprietary
> >
On Seg, 2013-02-11 at 19:31 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
> I remembered his clamav confused a lot of people.
yeah this explain why clamav , does not even restart by default on F16
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=787434
one year later still have the problem .
Also I think systemd i
Il giorno dom, 10/02/2013 alle 14.47 +0100, Olav Vitters ha scritto:
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 01:28:54PM +0100, Trond Hasle Amundsen wrote:
> > Christopher Meng writes:
> >
> > > Somewhat funny that many users even don't know this tweak tool and ask
> > > everywhere about this..
> >
> > I a
On Seg, 2013-02-11 at 12:32 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Seg, 2013-02-11 at 19:31 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
> > I remembered his clamav confused a lot of people.
>
> yeah this explain why clamav , does not even restart by default on F16
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7874
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 01:30:02PM +0100, Mario Torre wrote:
> Il giorno dom, 10/02/2013 alle 14.47 +0100, Olav Vitters ha scritto:
> > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 01:28:54PM +0100, Trond Hasle Amundsen wrote:
> > > Christopher Meng writes:
> > >
> > > > Somewhat funny that many users even don't know
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 01:30:29PM +0100, Mario Torre wrote:
> This argument doesn't really work, either.
Care to provide any argumentation? At the moment if that were true, I'd
could just refer to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_calling_the_kettle_black
But actually I explained myself. You
This Feature has been submitted *before* Feature Submission Deadline and it
required input/changes from the owner or was queued.
= Features/FreeIPA Two Factor Authentication =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FreeIPA_Two_Factor_Authentication
Feature owner(s): Nathaniel McCallum
Provid
Thanks for all developers' great work. Here I have two questions about
cluster.
MariaDB stays in Fedora repository now, however, Galera Cluster does not
contain in MariaDB. MariaDB with Galera Cluster is marked as stable. Is
there any plan to enable Galera Cluster feature.
NDBCluster Engine was d
This Feature has been submitted *before* Feature Submission Deadline and it
required input/changes from the owner or was queued.
= Features/UsermodeMigration =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsermodeMigration
Feature owner(s): Harald Hoyer , Kay Sievers
, Bill Nottingham
Access contr
This Feature has been submitted *after* Feature Submission Deadline and
requires exception from FESCo to be accepted as Fedora 19 Feature.
Owner(s), please, provide motivation why do you think the exception should be
granted.
= Features/Kolab3 =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Kolab3
Am 11.02.2013 11:31, schrieb Olav Vitters:
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 07:59:22PM +, Ian Malone wrote:
>> In the end, more than any usability quibbles, the best reason to give
>> up on a project is when it refuses to listen to its end users.
>
> The GNOME release notes over various cycles have
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 01:27:07PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> Usermode/consolehelper should be phased out and be replaced entirely by
> polkit.
Is it possible to configure utilities with the equivalent of UGROUPS=wheel
without per-application javascript policy? Currently, we do this with
/e
Am Montag, den 11.02.2013, 13:38 + schrieb Jaroslav Reznik:
> This Feature has been submitted *after* Feature Submission Deadline and
> requires exception from FESCo to be accepted as Fedora 19 Feature.
>
> Owner(s), please, provide motivation why do you think the exception should be
> gran
On Mon, 2013-02-11 at 09:42 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> On Saturday 09 of February 2013 11:37:15 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > > In Scope I see "KDE's networking layers likely require an update to use
> > > the new API, as will any other direct client of ModemManager. Howev
Hi,
I'm still getting failed Koji builds e-mail and unresolved deps in
Rawhide warnings, should I do something about it, or you are still
trying to do it?
Miro
Dne 10.2.2013 04:10, Kevin Fenzi napsal(a):
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 20:26:04 +0100
Denis Arnaud wrote:
Hi!
AFAIK, the next massive re
Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=909911
Bug ID: 909911
Summary: perl-ExtUtils-XSpp-0.1700 is available
Product: Fedora
Version: rawhide
Component: perl-ExtUtils-XSpp
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=909913
Bug ID: 909913
Summary: perl-Net-SSH2-0.47 is available
Product: Fedora
Version: rawhide
Component: perl-Net-SSH2
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
Severity:
Liang Suilong writes:
> Thanks for all developers' great work. Here I have two questions about
> cluster.
> MariaDB stays in Fedora repository now, however, Galera Cluster does not
> contain in MariaDB. MariaDB with Galera Cluster is marked as stable. Is
> there any plan to enable Galera Cluster
Just FYI, todays rawhide compose failed due to some issues at
fedorahosted early this morning.
I have restarted it, so it should land in a few hours.
kevin
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:02:17 +0100
Miro Hrončok wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm still getting failed Koji builds e-mail and unresolved deps in
> Rawhide warnings, should I do something about it, or you are still
> trying to do it?
Well, they would have been from yesterday?
I'd say wait and see what the r
On 02/08/2013 07:23 PM, Martin Sourada wrote:
* gnome devs are systematically removing features many former gnome
users thought were useful, and sometimes adding them back again
after a year or so of complains.
Today's xkcd is relevant---"every change breaks someone's workflow"
http
Denis Arnaud wrote:
> AFAIK, the next massive rebuild is scheduled for the 12th February, 2013.
> Moreover, as you may know, Boost-1.53.0 has been successfully
> built already (thanks to Petr!) on Koji:
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=382788
We fixed another qt/moc boost-re
On Seg, 2013-02-11 at 12:36 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Seg, 2013-02-11 at 12:32 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > On Seg, 2013-02-11 at 19:31 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
> > > I remembered his clamav confused a lot of people.
> >
> > yeah this explain why clamav , does not even restart by
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 04:24:11PM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Am Montag, den 11.02.2013, 13:38 + schrieb Jaroslav Reznik:
> 2. Even if we don't make it, there is absolutely zero impact on the
> release.
based on this, seems like just a set of new packages. I'd be willing t
Olav Vitters wrote:
> I don't get why you reply to me. It seems anything people do is just
> bad.
>
> No tweak tool: bad
> A tweak tool: bad
Strawman…
What I actually mean is:
Completely hidden or absent settings ("no tweak tool"): bad
Settings hidden in a tweak tool: bad
Settings available and
Ian Malone wrote:
> On record? Is there going to be a trial?
> What frustrates me is it's such an uphill battle.
> Step 1: Everything changes.
> Step 2: Users protest, some leave.
> Step 3: Supporters respond there's nothing wrong and essentially
> everyone who doesn't like it is too stupid or lazy
Olav Vitters wrote:
> PS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweak_UI
It was written by one individual employee and released as an unsupported
tool. It'd have been a third-party tool if the author didn't happen to be an
M$ employee.
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On 2/9/2013 1:58 AM, Remi Collet wrote:
Le 25/01/2013 19:46, Norvald Ryeng a écrit :
We'll try to do better in the future.
So I will also try to work better,
and so will report the annoying packaging bugs.
MySQL Workbench 5.2.46 is released, so
Connector/C++
http://bugs.mysql.com/
On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 11:19:10AM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> >> Additionally we will be mass patching config.guess and config.sub to
> >> support aarch64 in preperation for 64 bit arm support
> >
> > Ugh, this re
Matthew Miller wrote:
> Is it possible to configure utilities with the equivalent of UGROUPS=wheel
> without per-application javascript policy? Currently, we do this with
> /etc/security/console.apps/config-util.
>
> As I understand it, the javascript policy mechanism is not supposed to be
> used
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Features/UsermodeMigration =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsermodeMigration
>
> Feature owner(s): Harald Hoyer , Kay Sievers
> , Bill Nottingham
>
> Access control of privileged operations for ordinary users should be
> handled exclusively by a centrally m
Am Montag, den 11.02.2013, 12:42 -0800 schrieb Toshio Kuratomi:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 04:24:11PM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> > Am Montag, den 11.02.2013, 13:38 + schrieb Jaroslav Reznik:
> > 2. Even if we don't make it, there is absolutely zero impact on the
> > release.
I wrote:
> Olav Vitters wrote:
>> I don't get why you reply to me. It seems anything people do is just
>> bad.
>>
>> No tweak tool: bad
>> A tweak tool: bad
>
> Strawman…
>
> What I actually mean is:
> Completely hidden or absent settings ("no tweak tool"): bad
> Settings hidden in a tweak tool
I wrote:
> I don't see why this misfeature was accepted for F18. It is entirely
> useless under this form. We need a feature to actually use PolicyKit the
> way it was intended, phasing out usermode, consolehelper, kdesu and pkexec
> all at once wherever it is possible. (Of course, if the feature t
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