Re: using rpms for non-root installs

On 30. 1. 2013 at 16:06:35, Mátyás Selmeci wrote: > Hi, > > This may be a long shot, but I am interested in repackaging some RPMs (for > example, some of the Globus packages in EPEL, as well as grid software that > my group builds) such that the software in them may be installed by > unprivileged u

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Developers Assistant

On 30. 1. 2013 at 15:54:25, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jan Zelený (jzel...@redhat.com) said: > > I've already started to work on that as well. Currently I'm putting > > together topics from Fedora wiki that are eligible to be on such page, > > either as they are or with some (rather minor) modificati

Re: [perl/f17] Mark perl-IO-Compress as noarch

On 01/31/2013 09:16 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: commit 5ccf12aabce2eed4b0216d42c75ff87953265169 Author: Petr Písař Date: Thu Jan 31 09:12:32 2013 +0100 Mark perl-IO-Compress as noarch perl.spec |1 + 1 files changed, 1 insertio

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 04:23:43PM -0500, TK009 wrote: > From where I sit, I am not convinced the Gnome team did any of that > either beyond lip service. 6 versions to return shutdown speaks for > itself. I saw this negativity was also on Phoronix, where someone else commented in a similar way: A

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

On 2013-01-30, Benny Amorsen wrote: > Apparently ping has now started interpreting its command line arguments > depending on locale. I.e. ping -i 0.1 no longer works in locales where > comma is the decimal separator. > > This makes it difficult to call system commands. The only workaround is > to

Proposed F19 Feature: KVM Device Failover

= Features/Virt Device Failover = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Virt_Device_Failover Feature owner(s): Michael S. Tsirkin , Gal Hammer , Cole Robinson , Laine Stump Support for transparent failover between an assigned and an emulated device, allows enabling the migration and overcomm

Proposed F19 Feature: Yesod Web Framework

= Features/YesodWebFramework = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YesodWebFramework Feature owner(s): Jens Petersen , Michel Salim, Ben Boeckel Yesod is a Haskell web framework for productive development of type-safe, RESTful, high performance web applications. == Detailed description ==

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 30/01/2013 Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Features/ApacheOpenOffice = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApacheOpenOffice Feature owner(s): Andrea Pescetti Thank you everybody for your feedback so far. It has now been incorporated in the wiki page: - Tentative release date for OpenOffice 4

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:05:16AM +0100, Benny Amorsen wrote: > This makes it difficult to call system commands. The only workaround is > to set LC_ALL to a known-good locale, but then your users get no benefit > from the translations of error messages and so on. You should *always* set LC_ALL=C

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:06:51AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 31.01.2013 09:55, schrieb Olav Vitters: > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 04:23:43PM -0500, TK009 wrote: > >> From where I sit, I am not convinced the Gnome team did any of that > >> either beyond lip service. 6 versions to return

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 04:00 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: If somebody is attending FOSDEM in Brussels this weekend and can help with technical suggestions on packaging/integration, please let me know (or just visit the OpenOffice devroom on Saturday or the OpenOffice stand on Saturday/Sunday). I am su

File MIME-tools-5.504.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-MIME-tools: 8e055aab88552710377b4727b23bfb70 MIME-tools-5.504.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailma

Ruby based bsfilter packager wanted!

Hello everyone! Is there any existing packager (or a new one without an account yet) with interest in becoming the Fedora packager for the following script, which is written in Ruby? http://sourceforge.jp/projects/bsfilter/ We would need that as a dependency for a Claws Mail plug-in. Regards,

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thursday 31 of January 2013 10:00:13 Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 30/01/2013 Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > >>> = Features/ApacheOpenOffice = > >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApacheOpenOffice > >>> Feature owner(s): Andrea Pescetti > > Thank you everybody for your feedback so far. It has

Proposed F19 Feature: Less Brittle Kerberos

= Features/LessBrittleKerberos = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/LessBrittleKerberos Feature owner(s): Stef Walter Make kerberos in Fedora simpler to use by removing some of the brittleness that are common failure points. In particular we remove the need for kerberos clients to sync th

Proposed F19 Feature: QXL/Spice KMS Driver

= Features/QXLKMSSupport = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/QXLKMSSupport Feature owner(s): Alon Levy Currently the QXL driver is X.org only, a KMS driver is required to move forward with projects like spice 3D, and also to allow more features to be show in virt environments like plymou

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Hi all, I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me. We have LibreOffice in our repositories; I think that bring back Apache OpenOffice generates only confusion between users, not freedom of choice. LibreOffice is under big development, the suite is fresh, updated, full of new features, an

Re: Ruby based bsfilter packager wanted!

Hello: Michael Schwendt wrote, at 01/31/2013 07:58 PM +9:00: Hello everyone! Is there any existing packager (or a new one without an account yet) with interest in becoming the Fedora packager for the following script, which is written in Ruby? http://sourceforge.jp/projects/bsfilter/ We wo

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: QXL/Spice KMS Driver

Dne 31.1.2013 12:52, Jaroslav Reznik napsal(a): = Features/QXLKMSSupport = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/QXLKMSSupport Feature owner(s): Alon Levy Currently the QXL driver is X.org only, a KMS driver is required to move forward with projects like spice 3D, and also to allow more feat

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

On 01/28/2013 12:45 PM, Richard Marko wrote: > On 01/28/2013 05:56 PM, inode0 wrote: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics#Total_repository_connections > > > I'm wondering if there was an effort to provide package usage statistics > for Fedora. Having such data might be valuable when there

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Hi Marina, On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:14:41 +0100 Marina Latini wrote: > Hi all, > I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me. > We have LibreOffice in our repositories; I think that bring back > Apache OpenOffice generates only confusion between users, not freedom > of choice. > The confu

review swap: rubygems related packages

Hello, all: I have some packages related to rubygems ready for review and I would like to swap reviews. Each package is small and should not take so much time. rubygem-levenshtein https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891970 rubygem-gobject-introspection https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/30/2013 12:44 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Features/ApacheOpenOffice = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApacheOpenOffice Feature owner(s): Andrea Pescetti Add Apache OpenOffice, the free productivity suite, to Fedora. == Detailed description == Apache OpenOffice (formerly OpenOff

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 12:28 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: Hi Marina, On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:14:41 +0100 Marina Latini wrote: Hi all, I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me. We have LibreOffice in our repositories; I think that bring back Apache OpenOffice generates only confusion between user

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:43:58 + Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > On 01/31/2013 12:28 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: > > Hi Marina, > > > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:14:41 +0100 > > Marina Latini wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me. > >> We have LibreOffice in

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 31 January 2013 13:28, Martin Sourada wrote: > The confusion is already there in Windows world, linux user should be > more capable of treating it as freedom of choice instead of confusion. > Also, since Apache took over OpenOffice.org and put it out of > incubation, it seems the development ha

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: QXL/Spice KMS Driver

> Dne 31.1.2013 12:52, Jaroslav Reznik napsal(a): > > = Features/QXLKMSSupport = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/QXLKMSSupport > > > > Feature owner(s): Alon Levy > > > > Currently the QXL driver is X.org only, a KMS driver is required to > > move > > forward with projects like spice 3

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 12:43 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Why now? This might give some background: https://lwn.net/Articles/532665/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013/1/31 Martin Sourada > Hi Marina, > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:14:41 +0100 > Marina Latini wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me. > > We have LibreOffice in our repositories; I think that bring back > > Apache OpenOffice generates only confusion between us

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 31 January 2013 14:13, Mark Wielaard wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 12:43 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> Why now? > > This might give some background: https://lwn.net/Articles/532665/ > Are you talking about the donation of Symphony's source code? Please, take a look here: https://lw

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 2013-01-31, 12:14 GMT, Marina Latini wrote: > We have LibreOffice in our repositories; I think that bring back > Apache OpenOffice generates only confusion between users, not freedom > of choice. Nobody stops anybody to package anything which doesn't fail Fedora rules. Of course, I cannot imag

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 2013-01-31, 13:06 GMT, Marina Latini wrote: > We adopted LibreOffice as the other GNU/Linux distributions and now we > want reintroduce Apache OpenOffice. *WE* don't want anything. Somebody wants to package AOO. It seems to me to be silly, but why not. Wish him a luck (and keep away from it as

Summary of the Fedora Secondary Arch Team for Power meeting at FUDCon Lawrence and Statement of Direction

Hi everyone. For those interested in Fedora on Power i've posted the notes of our meeting at the FUDCon in Lawrence to the meeting info at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/PowerPC/Meetings/FUDCon_Lawrence_2013 Might reformat it a bit as it looks a bit ugly atm, but time will tell

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: QXL/Spice KMS Driver

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:52:12 + Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/QXLKMSSupport = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/QXLKMSSupport > Looking forward to testing this in F19 guests. -- Regards, Frank http//www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https:

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 01:58:30PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Tomasz Torcz (to...@pipebreaker.pl) said: > > > It might be worth considering that we keep the one special case and > > > change the 'eno' prefix in udev to 'em'... this will help some. > > > > This could be dangerous. If I und

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Le jeudi 31 janvier 2013 à 14:20 +0100, Robert Mayr a écrit : > I think that's not the point, one of the two suites will be dominant > and you can't provide both of them on a live image for example. > LibreOffice was introduced to our live images and we hit target 1GB, > do you really think it cou

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thursday 31 of January 2013 14:02:44 Martin Sourada wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:43:58 + > > Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > On 01/31/2013 12:28 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: > > > Hi Marina, > > > > > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:14:41 +0100 > > > > > > Marina Latini wrote: > > >> Hi all, >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thursday 31 of January 2013 15:01:00 Michael Scherer wrote: > Le jeudi 31 janvier 2013 à 14:20 +0100, Robert Mayr a écrit : > > I think that's not the point, one of the two suites will be dominant > > and you can't provide both of them on a live image for example. > > LibreOffice was introduced

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: AnacondaNewUI Followup

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 02:15:31PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/AnacondaNewUI Followup = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AnacondaNewUI_Followup Will the issues with shrinking partitions also be resolved? (c.f. #875944, which was resolved by just removing the feature entire

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

On 01/29/2013 07:10 PM, Benjamin De Kosnik wrote: 4) In the past, I've found it difficult to debug cups filters step by step. Especially with so many rasterization/filter changes. As part of the move to 1.6, will things like: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_printing_problems be updat

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 02:04 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: And it's the same situation as with MariaDB and MySQL. Fedora is going to prefer MariaDB (FESCo stated it clearly yesterday) - so we should try to make an effort to support MariaDB and not for example force users to use both just to run system. But o

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Marina Latini wrote: > Hi all, > I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me. > We have LibreOffice in our repositories; I think that bring back > Apache OpenOffice generates only confusion between users, not freedom > of choice. > > LibreOffice is under bi

Re: review swap: rubygems related packages

On 01/31/2013 01:32 PM, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: Hello, all: I have some packages related to rubygems ready for review and I would like to swap reviews. Each package is small and should not take so much time. rubygem-levenshtein https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891970 rubygem-gobject-int

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 02:11 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: And Calligra is default on Plasma spin. If someone chooses to create AOO spin (or any replacement we will have like formulas) - and choose it as default on that spin and he will maintain it and users will use it - it's Fedora. Last time I checked f

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

Le Mer 30 janvier 2013 19:07, Bill Nottingham a écrit : > it's wasteful in terms of builds and updates for users to be > updating all of systemd just to add a new French keymap conversion, esp. since users want their keyboard to work the same in gui and the console, so putting the keymaps in sys

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

On 31 January 2013 09:07, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:05:16AM +0100, Benny Amorsen wrote: >> This makes it difficult to call system commands. The only workaround is >> to set LC_ALL to a known-good locale, but then your users get no benefit >> from the translations of er

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: NetworkManager Bridging Support

- Original Message - > Is the scope of this feature intended to cover both traditional > (brctl) > bridges and Open vSwitch (i.e. ovs-vsctl, ...) bridges? Nope. We just support standard linux bridging (plus plain old bonding). > Both types of > bridging are supported by plugins for openst

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

On 31 January 2013 15:04, Ian Malone wrote: > On 31 January 2013 09:07, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:05:16AM +0100, Benny Amorsen wrote: >>> This makes it difficult to call system commands. The only workaround is >>> to set LC_ALL to a known-good locale, but then your u

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:39 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > "Fedora is going to prefer MariaDB (FESCo stated it clearly yesterday)" > > It did now? Yes it did, I'm afraid the short-form minutes don't contain it. The precise text is: proposal: clearly state that fedora prefers mariadb?(for

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 09:07 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:05:16AM +0100, Benny Amorsen wrote: > > This makes it difficult to call system commands. The only workaround is > > to set LC_ALL to a known-good locale, but then your users get no benefit > > from the transla

[Bug 906396] Permission problems in amavis-new

Product: Fedora EPEL https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906396 Robert Moskowitz changed: What|Removed |Added CC||janfr...@tanso.ne

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

Marcela Mašláňová (mmasl...@redhat.com) said: > I would say that work even before. If I should say according to > number of bugs, not many users were using specific SElinux contexts > for cronjob tasks. > > No objection to this feature, it might be very powerful for some > use-cases. I'm afraid o

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 03:24 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: proposal: clearly state that fedora prefers mariadb?(for now) passed +7 -0 That "for now" is just based on the fact that there no longer is no one maintaining the package in Fedora right? Which begs the question why has it not been orphaned and p

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) said: > On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:30 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > This is interesting, in that it's a feature that's occasionally requested > > by various users and administrators. However, this is rather limited in > > that only systemd stuff is using it

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:49:11 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 03:24 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > proposal: clearly state that fedora prefers mariadb?(for now) > > passed +7 -0 > > That "for now" is just based on the fact that there no longer is no > one maintaining the packa

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:47:08 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 02:11 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > And Calligra is default on Plasma spin. If someone chooses to > > create AOO spin (or any replacement we will have like formulas) - > > and choose it as default on that spin and

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:31:37 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > What's the end game with this proposal since we already moved away > from openoffice to libreoffice which caused enough confusion for our > end user base? end game is both libreoffice and apache openoffice available in the repos

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Trusted Network Connect (TNC)

On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 17:28 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Avesh Agarwal (avaga...@redhat.com) said: > > >Right now it is done using wpa_supplicant provided cli. > > > > Just to clarify a little bit further, wpa_supplicant provided cli > > takes care of authentication and tnc's end point assessme

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: QXL/Spice KMS Driver

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 11:52 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/QXLKMSSupport = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/QXLKMSSupport > > Feature owner(s): Alon Levy > > Currently the QXL driver is X.org only, a KMS driver is required to move > forward with projects like spice 3D, and

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Trusted Network Connect (TNC)

On 01/31/2013 11:10 AM, Dan Williams wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 17:28 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: Avesh Agarwal (avaga...@redhat.com) said: Right now it is done using wpa_supplicant provided cli. Just to clarify a little bit further, wpa_supplicant provided cli takes care of authentication

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Developers Assistant

Jan Zelený (jzel...@redhat.com) said: > > Does this go all the way into "libraries you should use" and "libraries you > > shouldn't"? > > Well, that's slightly advanced topic but I think we can arrange something > like > advanced section on the Developers' portal. > > Is this already somewhere

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On 01/31/2013 03:51 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: I would be tempted to say: "Anything running at a core system level where a dependence on a separate cron daemon may be unwanted (or a bad idea) should be migrated, and nothing else for now until we have a clearer perspective on the future." Give

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Am 31.01.2013 15:39, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > On 01/31/2013 02:04 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> And it's the same situation as with MariaDB and MySQL. Fedora is going to >> prefer MariaDB (FESCo stated it clearly yesterday) - so we should try to make >> an effort to support MariaDB and no

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: QXL/Spice KMS Driver

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:12:28 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > I thought the feature deadline was yesterday; are we on late features > now? The deadline was yesterday to have your feature submitted. I think the wrangler has been spreading them out a bit to avoid dumping them all at once into the

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 04:03 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:49:11 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 01/31/2013 03:24 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: proposal: clearly state that fedora prefers mariadb?(for now) passed +7 -0 That "for now" is just based on the fact that there no longer

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 04:06 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:31:37 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >What's the end game with this proposal since we already moved away >from openoffice to libreoffice which caused enough confusion for our >end user base? end game is both libreoffice a

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:51:45 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: I would be tempted to say: "Anything running at a core system level where a dependence on a separate cron daemon may be unwanted (or a bad idea) should be migrated, and nothing else for now until we have a clearer perspective on t

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:17:24 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Ok I'll open a ticket requesting postgresql being the distribution > default database of chose. For what? We can't force upstream projects to support postgresql if they don't already. I personally vastly prefer postgres as w

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: OpenAttestation

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Wei, Gang wrote: > Bill Nottingham wrote on 2013-01-29: >> Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: >>> = Features/OpenAttestation = >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OpenAttestation >>> >>> Feature owner(s): Gang Wei >>> >>> Provide fedora packages f

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On 01/31/2013 04:23 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:51:45 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: I would be tempted to say: "Anything running at a core system level where a dependence on a separate cron daemon may be unwanted (or a bad idea) should be migrated, and nothing el

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:19:08 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 04:06 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:31:37 + > > "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > >> >What's the end game with this proposal since we already moved away > >> >from openoffice to libreoffi

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 04:30 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I don't see how a distribution default would make any sense. I guess that's as senseless to you as it is for me fesco decision of make mariadb to be preferred "default" is to me... JBG -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admi

Re: Ruby based bsfilter packager wanted!

Mamoru TASAKA wrote, at 01/31/2013 09:20 PM +9:00: Hello: Michael Schwendt wrote, at 01/31/2013 07:58 PM +9:00: Hello everyone! Is there any existing packager (or a new one without an account yet) with interest in becoming the Fedora packager for the following script, which is written in Ruby?

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:30:30 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 04:30 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > I don't see how a distribution default would make any sense. > > I guess that's as senseless to you as it is for me fesco decision of > make mariadb to be preferred "default" is to

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 04:32 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:19:08 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 01/31/2013 04:06 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:31:37 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: What's the end game with this proposal since we already moved away >fro

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 05:30 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 04:30 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> I don't see how a distribution default would make any sense. > > I guess that's as senseless to you as it is for me fesco decision of make > mariadb to be preferred "default" is to me... Fedora

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:34:45 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > I see I cannot maintain a spin in the distribution identical to Gnome > but with Apache office instead of libreoffice. Sure you can. Knock yourself out. However, Feature deadline is past now, so it would likely have to be a f

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 04:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:30:30 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 01/31/2013 04:30 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I don't see how a distribution default would make any sense. I guess that's as senseless to you as it is for me fesco decision of make maria

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 04:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> >> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:30:30 + >> "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> >>> On 01/31/2013 04:30 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I don't see how a distribution default would make any

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) said: > > You should *always* set LC_ALL=C when running an external command from > > another program (and most probably from a shell script too). > > Except when you shouldn't ... > > If you are getting arguments that are locale dependent changing the > locale will d

Re: review swap: rubygems related packages

Brendan Jones wrote, at 01/31/2013 11:47 PM +9:00: On 01/31/2013 01:32 PM, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: Hello, all: I have some packages related to rubygems ready for review and I would like to swap reviews. Each package is small and should not take so much time. rubygem-levenshtein https://bugzilla.r

[Bug 906461] New: wrong default pidfile in /etc/clamd.d/amavisd.conf

Product: Fedora EPEL https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906461 Bug ID: 906461 Summary: wrong default pidfile in /etc/clamd.d/amavisd.conf Product: Fedora EPEL Version: el6 Component: amavisd-new Severity: low Priori

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 31.01.2013 17:43, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" >> wrote: >>> On 01/31/2013 04:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: That would be the default between MariaDB and Mysql. Which are (at le

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Am 31.01.2013 17:43, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" > wrote: >> On 01/31/2013 04:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:30:30 + >>> "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >>> On 01/31/2013 04:30 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Am 31.01.2013 17:56, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 31.01.2013 17:43, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" >>> wrote: On 01/31/2013 04:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > That would be the de

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:43:44AM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > C locale and not do locale dependent parsing. It would be much more > > robust and if you are good enough to use the -i switch you probably know > > how to type 0.1 instead of 0,1 (or whatever format is in your locale) as > > well

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:27 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > I'm the one that has been looking into the benefit from which component and of which cron job it would be useful for migrating to >systemd timer units and that's totally irrelevant to that feature as I mentioned to FESCO but

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On 01/31/2013 05:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:27 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > I'm the one that has been looking into the benefit from which component and of which cron job it would be useful for migrating to >systemd timer units and that's totally irrele

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > i do not need to read any theory > Apparently you do since your claim was entirely incorrect. > and why have you stripped the relevant part below? > If you use unversioned obsoletes and rebuilt your own package, that is a problem yo

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

> I updated that section, hopefully the filter pipeline is now more > understandable. Thanks Jiri. I'll try your packages on F18, with these docs, and give you some more constructive feedback. -benjamin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

Re: using rpms for non-root installs

Michael Stahnke wrote: ls zip-3.0-1.el6.x86_64.rpm mkdir $HOME/.myrpm cp -pr /var/lib/rpm/* $HOME/.myrpm/ chown -R $USER $HOME/.myrpm/ rpm -Uvh --justdb --dbpath $HOME/.myrpm zip-3.0-1.el6.x86_64.rpm rpm2cpio < zip-3.0-1.el6.x86_64.rpm | cpio -idmv rpm -q --dbp

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

- Original Message > > Right, output should be locale specific. Input command line args... > seems > specious. Until you put a pipe between and turn the outputs of command a into inputs of command b... -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

On 01/30/2013 11:05 PM, Benny Amorsen wrote: Apparently ping has now started interpreting its command line arguments depending on locale. I.e. ping -i 0.1 no longer works in locales where comma is the decimal separator. This makes it difficult to call system commands. The only workaround is to s

polkit changes in f19

I just realized that there is a change to the way polkit is packaged in f19 that spin maintainers should be aware of: the polkit package is just the service, which only provides the default policy as specified in the action definitions now. If you want or need support for js rules, you need to p

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Less Brittle Kerberos

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > Kerberos clients can optionally verify reverse DNS records for services that > they connect to as a way of trying to identify which realm they belong to. > However in many cases these do not exist. Kerberos should fall back to it's > defaul

[Bug 906461] wrong default pidfile in /etc/clamd.d/amavisd.conf

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Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 14:20 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote: > I think that's not the point, one of the two suites will be dominant > and you can't provide both of them on a live image for example. > LibreOffice was introduced to our live images and we hit target 1GB, > do you really think it could be us

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: AnacondaNewUI Followup

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 09:24 -0500, Scott Schmit wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 02:15:31PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > = Features/AnacondaNewUI Followup = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AnacondaNewUI_Followup > > > Will the issues with shrinking partitions also be resolved? (c

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 17:32 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 05:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > Hi > > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:27 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > > > I'm the one that has been looking into the benefit from which > > component and of which

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 16:03 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le Mer 30 janvier 2013 19:07, Bill Nottingham a écrit : > > it's wasteful in terms of builds and updates for users to be > > updating all of systemd just to add a new French keymap conversion, > > esp. since users want their keyboard to

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