On 11/12/2012 08:00 PM, Steve Grubb wrote:
except that most admins will never be able to do this. The only people that
get any flexibility are people who manage their own system. Everyone else
likely has some compliance issues and they have to be verifiably in
configuration. What will happen is
Hi Steve,
On 12.11.2012 21:00, Steve Grubb wrote:
I think its a bad idea to have too much flexibility for access control systems.
They have to be verifiable. If you have to comply to PCI-DSS or the DISA STIG
or any other standard, you have to be able to demonstrate you are in the
approved confi
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On 11/12/2012 08:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 09:53:13PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
I really don't understand why a core system component such as firewalld is
implemented in Python!
Here, I mostly don't see the reason for it to be running all the time.
Couldn't it be db
Hi,
It's time for the last big GNOME update for F18 to bring bug fixes
and translation updates to users!
If anybody wants to add builds to the GNOME 3.6.2 update, now is the
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On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:53:10PM +0100, Thomas Woerner wrote:
> On 11/12/2012 08:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> >On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 09:53:13PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >>I really don't understand why a core system component such as firewalld is
> >>implemented in Python!
> >
> >Here, I m
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 01:19:36PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > >Here, I mostly don't see the reason for it to be running all the time.
> > >Couldn't it be dbus activated, and then go away when it's not needed? Then,
> > >it would matter less what it was written in.
> > >
> > It would loose
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:23:28PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> The iprutils package provides utilities for IBM Power Linux RAID adapters.
> Up until current rawhide, this was exclusive to that architecture. However,
> now it's built on all archs (because these devices _may_ be found there).
>
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 11/13/2012 05:05 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>
>> I own several packages that use cmake and I've taken to setting the
>> release type to RelWithDebugInfo like you suggest. One question I've had
>> but never gotten around to asking is: Regard
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 11/13/2012 05:05 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>
>> I own several packages that use cmake and I've taken to setting the
>> release type to RelWithDebugInfo like you suggest. One question I've had
>> but never gotten around to asking is: Regard
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:21 PM, David Howells wrote:
> David Howells wrote:
>
>> A better way to do this might be to make the header installation discard the
>> "_UAPI" prefix that got added.
>
> As the attached patch.
>
> David
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> commit 75a88e14a97d239a47cbd0fc55fc23416007d733
> Author: D
Hi folks,
Another gentle reminder. There are about 10 more hours to go. Please
complete your nominations ASAP!
I apologise for the spam, but we'd like to have enough candidates to
make it a fruitful election. :)
On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 10:16 +1100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> Attention all fedorians!
>
On 11/13/2012 02:48 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Ralf Corsepius mailto:rc040...@freenet.de>> wrote:
On 11/13/2012 05:05 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
I own several packages that use cmake and I've taken to setting the
release type to RelWithDebugInfo l
2012/11/12 Matthew Miller
> [...]
> Yeah: if we get to the point where every real install has to add the same
> subset of packages to core, I don't think we've succeeded in doing anything
> except make more work for the whole world.
> A cron daemon and (at least basic) MTA fall in the same area,
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> I don't know Fedora minimal looks like...FOR SERVER USE the Minimal
> includes:
>
> [...]
>
BUT FOR DESKTOP USE,I think it should also have a desktop based on server
> version...That's what is troubling me...If it [...]
This is something we shouldn't mix. When we a
commit 124c66a6f5074e0142eda8caa78e6789e137fbf3
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Date: Tue Nov 13 15:34:58 2012 +0100
Add BR, fix whitespaces.
perl-DateTime-Locale.spec | 10 --
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On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:50:11 PM Alek Paunov wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> On 12.11.2012 21:00, Steve Grubb wrote:
> > I think its a bad idea to have too much flexibility for access control
> > systems. They have to be verifiable. If you have to comply to PCI-DSS or
> > the DISA STIG or any othe
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Christopher Meng wrote:
> So IMO I think now that we can accept different database tools into
> repo,it's available for us to include mariadb.Official says they will try to
> become a independent software but not a mod based on MySQL...
>
> Maybe easy for review? I
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 07:20:52PM -0800, Brian C. Lane wrote:
> Yes. I haven't focused on getting it working for Beta since they decided
> to continue to use livecd-creator, but I will have it working for Final.
With that timeline, I think it's going to be hard to *use* it for F18 Final,
but I ca
On 11/12/2012 07:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 09:53:13PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
I really don't understand why a core system component such as firewalld is
implemented in Python!
Here, I mostly don't see the reason for it to be running all the time.
Couldn't it be db
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 02:28:17PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> > > >Here, I mostly don't see the reason for it to be running all the time.
> > > >Couldn't it be dbus activated, and then go away when it's not needed?
> > > >Then,
> > > >it would matter less what it was written in.
> > > It would l
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 02:41:44PM +, Pádraig Brady wrote:
> > And for reducing space use: I think it might also be nice to break python
> > 2to3 and idle out of the python-libs package.
> splitting python-libs (25MB here), seems worthwhile.
> python-libs can bb changed to a subpackage that jus
Once upon a time, Pádraig Brady said:
> It could be argued that python is more suited to long lived programs:
>
> $ time /bin/true
> real 0m0.002s
> $ time python -c True
> real 0m0.049s
Aside from that being a meaningless, worst case example, an "overhead"
of .047 seconds is hardly worth worr
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On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 08:41:00AM -0500, David Cantrell wrote:
> > I know anaconda currently does some magic to install storage-related
> > packages; should this be included there rather than on the minimal list?
> > It's not a big package, but unless it's necessary I don't think we want to
> > fo
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 08:51:59AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> > $ time /bin/true
> > real0m0.002s
> > $ time python -c True
> > real0m0.049s
> Aside from that being a meaningless, worst case example, an "overhead"
> of .047 seconds is hardly worth worrying about unless the command
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 11:57:12AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > - no way to run once and exit for cloud guests with *non-dynamic*
> > > firewall
> > > needs, and it's a non-trivial user of system resources
> > You can use the old firewall environment for static firewall use
> > cases.
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 11:57:12AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > - no way to run once and exit for cloud guests with *non-dynamic*
> > > firewall
> > > needs, and it's a non-trivial user of system resources
> > You can use the old firewall environment for static firewall use
> > cases.
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commit 43f728027aff916af535519b7e0f1124d64497d0
Author: Jitka Plesnikova
Date: Tue Nov 13 16:09:41 2012 +0100
Fix wrong script interpreter
perl-Data-OptList.spec |7 ++-
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On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 09:37:07 AM Steve Grubb wrote:
> For anything with name=value, we normally use the textfilecontent54 which we
> can define a regex to pick out the items of interest. However, with a
> language, you have multiple ways of expressing the same idea. for example,
>
> if (f
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 18:39:29 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> please no - O2 is a performance improvement while minidebuginfo is
> the opposite, not only bloating the size, also bloadting the data
> to laod from disk
FYI minidebuginfo does not affect loading from disk (mostly) in any way.
See 'readel
commit 0976bf010875df653bd9aeed2580b756bb9b49af
Author: Petr Šabata
Date: Tue Nov 13 16:33:25 2012 +0100
Modernize the spec, fix dependencies, and drop command macros
perl-HTTP-Daemon.spec | 19 +++
1 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
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diff --git a/perl-
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:26:28AM -0500, Steve Grubb wrote:
> With name = value, the vulnerability would likely be in the compiled code
> and the compliance check would pass. In this case the settings are
> verifiably correct because the config file is not changed and part of the
> compliance chec
commit ad2a26e2e7d5eb055f205db5eb31b762bfc7ffaf
Author: Marcela Mašláňová
Date: Tue Nov 13 16:46:32 2012 +0100
Bump the release to 0.94
perl-Devel-Cover.spec | 27 ++-
1 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
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On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 11:28 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Okay, cool -- there's a lot of enthusiasm for a SIG for the core package
> set.
>
> So, first up on the SIG goals: clarifying our target.
>
> It's been suggested before that there's so many possibilities that this is
> useless, but the po
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 09:40:06AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 07:20:52PM -0800, Brian C. Lane wrote:
> > Yes. I haven't focused on getting it working for Beta since they decided
> > to continue to use livecd-creator, but I will have it working for Final.
>
> With that t
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> The concerns you raise go beyond the preferences of sysadmins (who, I think
> as a rule prefer key-value config files to complex ones). Of course, Fedora
> isn't (at least, not right now) targetted at the high-security situations
> you descr
On 11/13/2012 03:46 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 02:28:17PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
Here, I mostly don't see the reason for it to be running all the time.
Couldn't it be dbus activated, and then go away when it's not needed? Then,
it would matter less what it was written
On 11/13/2012 04:02 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 11:57:12AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
- no way to run once and exit for cloud guests with *non-dynamic* firewall
needs, and it's a non-trivial user of system resources
You can use the old firewall environment for st
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 02:41:44PM +, Pádraig Brady wrote:
> On 11/12/2012 07:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> >On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 09:53:13PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >>I really don't understand why a core system component such as firewalld is
> >>implemented in Python!
> >
> >Here, I mo
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 05:28:42PM +0100, Thomas Woerner wrote:
> If you want to recreate rules, use reload. If you restart the
> service with systemd, the servce gets stopped and started again, so
> you will loose internal state. This is how services are working.
I understand that some services w
Just a reminder to all, that barring any last minute issues Fedora 18
branched will enter freeze (again) starting tomorrow.
There will be one more stable push late tonight that will appear in
tomorrows branched compose, after that only updates fixing accepted Beta
Blockers or accepted Beta Nice t
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On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 19:19 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> This thread continues to get more absurd. Everyone agrees it would be
> good to make the installer as efficient as possible. It is open source
> code. Check it out from git and go to work. Patches to
> anaconda-devel-list. The anaconda
On 11/13/2012 05:36 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 05:28:42PM +0100, Thomas Woerner wrote:
If you want to recreate rules, use reload. If you restart the
service with systemd, the servce gets stopped and started again, so
you will loose internal state. This is how services are
On 11/13/2012 05:28 PM, Thomas Woerner wrote:
> On 11/13/2012 03:46 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 02:28:17PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
>> Here, I mostly don't see the reason for it to be running all the time.
>> Couldn't it be dbus activated, and then go away when it
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 06:03:18PM +0100, Thomas Woerner wrote:
> >I understand that some services work that way. However, I don't think that
> >this is the best design for a firewall service. Is there some way to force
> >the internal state to be recorded?
> >Let's say there is a security fix for
Since the following packages seem to be unmaintained and have broken
deps in Fedora 18, I propose that they be retired and blocked before
release:
libsyncml
mod_pubcookie
openvrml
perl-OpenOffice-UNO
pyfuzzy
reciteword
ruby-revolution
rubygem-calendar_date_select
znc-infobot
These retirements wou
Did a quick scan and removed internals
random : ['import random : (cli.py)']
subprocess : ['from subprocess import Popen, PIPE :
(yum/packages.py)']
gettext : ['import gettext : (output.py)']
fnmatch : ['import fnmatch : (completion-helper.py)']
te
On 11/13/2012 06:16 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 11/13/2012 05:28 PM, Thomas Woerner wrote:
On 11/13/2012 03:46 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 02:28:17PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
Here, I mostly don't see the reason for it to be running all the time.
Couldn't it be d
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 06:37:37PM +0100, Thomas Woerner wrote:
> >That's not correct. You can modify the firewall just fine without
> >restarting it.
> This is related to system-config-firewall/lokkit. You are right, if
> you are using iptables directly then you do not have this
> limitation. fire
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> diff --git a/scripts/headers_install.pl b/scripts/headers_install.pl
>> index 239d22d..6c353ae 100644
>> --- a/scripts/headers_install.pl
>> +++ b/scripts/headers_install.pl
>> @@ -42,6 +42,9 @@ foreach my $filename (@files) {
>>
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On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 10:03 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 11:57:12AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > > - no way to run once and exit for cloud guests with *non-dynamic*
> > > > firewall
> > > > needs, and it's a non-trivial user of system resources
> > > You can u
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Tom Callaway píše v Út 13. 11. 2012 v 12:26 -0500:
> Since the following packages seem to be unmaintained and have broken
> deps in Fedora 18, I propose that they be retired and blocked before
> release:
>
> perl-OpenOffice-UNO
^^^ was rebuilt recently
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> Tom Callaway píše v Út 13. 11. 2012 v 12:26 -0500:
>> Since the following packages seem to be unmaintained and have broken
>> deps in Fedora 18, I propose that they be retired and blocked before
>> release:
>>
>> perl-OpenOffice-UNO
>
> ^^^ was rebuilt r
- Original Message -
> So, talking about specific actions...
>
> I have recently had to search all existing polkit policies. This is
> no longer possible to automate because various packages ship the
> JavaScript policy, so I had to review those by hand. It seems that
> (perhaps with
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 02:07:53PM -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> A concrete action that we are going to take is to split the polkit daemon
> into its own subpackage. Then minimal / certifiable installs can contain
> clients that are using the polkit libraries, without pulling in the
> daemon. Pol
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 02:07:53 PM Matthias Clasen wrote:
> - Original Message -
>
> > So, talking about specific actions...
> >
> > I have recently had to search all existing polkit policies. This is
> > no longer possible to automate because various packages ship the
> > JavaScr
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 02:32:28PM -0500, Steve Grubb wrote:
> It was decided a long time ago that its better to just have a parser that
> looks for the things that people would commonly like to change. This way,
> you have some assurance that the main binary has some integrity and you
> didn't mak
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> - Original Message -
>
>> So, talking about specific actions...
>>
>> I have recently had to search all existing polkit policies. This is
>> no longer possible to automate because various packages ship the
>> JavaScript policy, so
Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 06:37:37PM +0100, Thomas Woerner wrote:
> > >That's not correct. You can modify the firewall just fine without
> > >restarting it.
> > This is related to system-config-firewall/lokkit. You are right, if
> > you are using ipt
Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) said:
> > A concrete action that we are going to take is to split the polkit daemon
> > into its own subpackage. Then minimal / certifiable installs can contain
> > clients that are using the polkit libraries, without pulling in the daemon.
> > Polkit clients are
Steve Grubb (sgr...@redhat.com) said:
> > So, converting JavaScript rules to pkla syntax won't do any good. What is
> > worthwhile doing though, is to review all existing packages that ship such
> > rules, and stop them from doing that, if possible. JavaScript rules are
> > only meant for admin us
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 06:16:49PM +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
> On 11/13/2012 05:28 PM, Thomas Woerner wrote:
> > On 11/13/2012 03:46 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 02:28:17PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> >> Here, I mostly don't see the reason for it to be runni
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 03:47:25PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Given the move of most system configuration at a large scale to things
> such as puppet and chef, I suspect that this argument has already lost in
> the marketplace. Obviously, we should still support more locked down
> configuratio
Tom Callaway wrote, at 11/14/2012 02:26 AM +9:00:
Since the following packages seem to be unmaintained and have broken
deps in Fedora 18, I propose that they be retired and blocked before
release:
ruby-revolution
Currently waiting for the upstream reply.
Additionally, these packages are alre
Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> I have recently had to search all existing polkit policies. This is
> no longer possible to automate because various packages ship the
> JavaScript policy, so I had to review those by hand. It seems that
> (perhaps with the exception of polkit itself) any use of JavaScript
Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 08:07:39PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > Yeah, that's a thing that probably could be done. Bug again I'd
> > like some input from people who have made the switch to these
> > packages being mandatory.
>
> Well, I think i
Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) said:
> Andre Robatino wrote:
> > *IMPORTANT*: Both TC8 install DVDs are oversized and will not fit on
> > single-layer DVDs. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD#Capacity for
> > DVD size limits.
>
> See what damage "Mini"DebugInfo is doing? Nobody (other t
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> On 11/12/2012 09:36 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> FESCo decided the benefit to always having mini-debuginfo
>> available outweighed the downside of increased space.
>
> I see done to making abrt atleast somewhat usable
The ABRT developers have said very clearly that th
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 04:41:12 PM Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
> > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 08:07:39PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > > Yeah, that's a thing that probably could be done. Bug again I'd
> > > like some input from people who have mad
A new bugfix release of Bodhi has just been deployed to production.
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Once upon a time, Bill Nottingham said:
> So, what it is bascially designed for now is:
>
> - Boot to a normal prompt
> basesystem
> bash
> coreutils
> filesystem
> glibc
> initscripts
> plymouth (was for boot logs & encrypted partitions; could be dropped
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> FESCo decided the benefit to always having mini-debuginfo
> available outweighed the downside of increased space.
What benefit?
* MiniDebugInfo contains only basically the same information already present
in the dynamic symbol table of shared objects! (GDB can already use the
On 2012-11-13 00:46, Rex Dieter wrote:
> 2. building with -DNDEBUG by default?
Is NDEBUG something commonly found/used in projecets built with cmake?
If so, I think building with it would be generally more desirable than
building without it, because doing the latter might enable extra
debugging
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 04:07:16PM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> What makes rootfiles essential? That's just overriding the defaults
> from /etc/skel with annoying aliases.
I think it should be at least "default" instead of mandatory.
> Is NM really required for "basic" networking? If so, you pr
Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 04:07:16PM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> > What makes rootfiles essential? That's just overriding the defaults
> > from /etc/skel with annoying aliases.
>
> I think it should be at least "default" instead of mandatory.
Cons
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 05:20:43PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 04:07:16PM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> > > What makes rootfiles essential? That's just overriding the defaults
> > > from /etc/skel with annoying aliases.
> > I think it should be at least "default" instea
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Sometimes things aren't ideal for one group in favor of another.
WHAT group is actually in favor of MiniDebugInfo? It has one single person
as the feature owner. ABRT developers consider it useless. Who actually
wants it? And are you sure those who think they want it realize
Richard Shaw wrote:
> I'd have to go back and look but the last flag wins, right? I've had cmake
> projects where RPM_OPT_FLAGS was used but the cmake options were appended,
> so I ended up with -O3...
Then these packages are faulty and need to be fixed (patch CMakeLists.txt).
Kevin Kofle
On 13 November 2012 15:22, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 05:20:43PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 04:07:16PM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
>> > > What makes rootfiles essential? That's just overriding the defaults
>> > > from /etc/skel with annoying alia
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:12:57 +0100
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > FESCo decided the benefit to always having mini-debuginfo
> > available outweighed the downside of increased space.
>
> What benefit?
...snip...
The problem here is that you are making the same arguments you made
b
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875785
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Package perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.058-1.fc18,
perl-Compress-Raw-Lzma-2.058-1.fc18, perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.058-1.fc18,
perl-IO-Compress-2.058-1.fc18, perl-IO-Compress-Lzma-2.058-1.fc18:
* should fix y
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875786
--- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System ---
Package perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.058-1.fc18,
perl-Compress-Raw-Lzma-2.058-1.fc18, perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.058-1.fc18,
perl-IO-Compress-2.058-1.fc18, perl-IO-Compress-Lzma-2.058-1.fc18:
* should fix y
Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Not to let silly things like facts get in the way of a good rant, but the
> images went over size because MATE & texlive are now getting pulled in via
> deps when they weren't before, not because of incremental minidebuginfo
> changes.
MiniDebugInfo definitely DID increase
I wrote:
> Richard Shaw wrote:
>> I'd have to go back and look but the last flag wins, right? I've had
>> cmake projects where RPM_OPT_FLAGS was used but the cmake options were
>> appended, so I ended up with -O3...
>
> Then these packages are faulty and need to be fixed (patch
> CMakeLists.txt).
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872994
--- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System ---
Package perl-DateTime-TimeZone-1.54-1.fc18:
* should fix your issue,
* was pushed to the Fedora 18 testing repository,
* should be available at your local mirror within two days.
Update it with:
# su -
On 11/13/2012 06:48 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Ralf Corsepius mailto:rc040...@freenet.de>> wrote:
On 11/13/2012 05:05 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
I own several packages that use cmake and I've taken to setting the
release type to RelWithDebugInfo l
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