[Test-Announce] 2011-11-07 @ ** 16:00 UTC ** - Fedora QA Meeting

2011-11-07 Thread Adam Williamson
UPDATE: As Kamil pointed out, I screwed up the time thing entirely in the initial announcement for this meeting. So here's a corrected version. We will adjust the meeting time for DST changes just as we did last year, starting this week. So the meeting is at 16:00 UTC, which means that if your cloc

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:56:40 +0200, VS (Ville) wrote: > > Puzzles me. The F-16 build doesn't depend on libpng* directly: > > > > $ rpm -qR geeqie|grep png > > $ rpm -q geeqie > > geeqie-1.0-13.fc16.x86_64 > > I noticed a similar thing with gkrellm-volume -- the F-15 build did have > a dependency

rawhide report: 20111107 changes

2011-11-07 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Nov 7 08:16:07 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 4ti2-1.3.2-7.fc17.1.x86_64 requires libgmp.so.3()(64bit) 1:anerley-0.3.0-5.fc17.i686 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.15 1:anerley-0.3.0-5.fc17.i6

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Sat, 2011-11-05 at 13:40 +, Bojan Smojver wrote: > w googlemail.com> > writes: > > > Yet look at all the happy users of > default Gnome 3! > > I am one of them and I went directly > from the tilling-WM Xmonad to gnome > > 3! So you can't say it's only for > absolute noobs :). I install

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > As of tomorrow's rawhide [1], gnome-session will no longer treat > llvmpipe as an unsupported driver.  This means gnome-shell will run even > on hardware without a native 3D driver, including virt guests. > > There are probably bugs!  I've done

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 09:37 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: > What's the plan for rather old, limited hardware? Have you personally > got XO-1, XO-1.5 units to test? We'll be testing it (with some > trepidation) at OLPC, but it's always better if you can see it in all > its glory on your own. I hav

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 09:37 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: > >> What's the plan for rather old, limited hardware? Have you personally >> got XO-1, XO-1.5 units to test? We'll be testing it (with some >> trepidation) at OLPC, but it's always bett

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 01:02:15PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > rjones gtkglarea2 > rjones guestfs-browser > rjones nekovm > rjones ocaml-lablgtk I've rebuilt all of these packages. They all built without any source changes. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.r

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > Details of rawhide builds for them here[1], the XO-1 build isn't > tested but the XO 1.5 one works fine, I'll be testing further and > likely the next build I do I'll add all the components to test the > llvmpipe feature on them. > > [1] http

File DateTime-TimeZone-SystemV-0.005.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2011-11-07 Thread Iain Arnell
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[perl-DateTime-TimeZone-SystemV] initial import (rhbz#751522)

2011-11-07 Thread Iain Arnell
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[perl-DateTime-TimeZone-SystemV/f16] initial import (rhbz#751522)

2011-11-07 Thread Iain Arnell
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[perl-DateTime-TimeZone-SystemV/f15] initial import (rhbz#751522)

2011-11-07 Thread Iain Arnell
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Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-07 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 11/07/2011 01:57 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > * The %configure macro (at least since F-16) does > LDFLAGS="${LDFLAGS:--Wl,-z,relro }"; export LDFLAGS; >so one cannot simply export a customized $LDFLAGS in the spec file >without disturbing the macro. That's what I meant by "(in

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 09:46:41PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > enaut wrote: > > I am one of them and I went directly from the tilling-WM Xmonad to gnome > > 3! So you can't say it's only for absolute noobs :). > > The fact that you were using a tiling WM first shows that you are much more > will

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-07 Thread Tom Callaway
On 11/07/2011 10:35 AM, Ville Skyttä wrote: > On 11/07/2011 01:57 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > >> * The %configure macro (at least since F-16) does >> LDFLAGS="${LDFLAGS:--Wl,-z,relro }"; export LDFLAGS; >>so one cannot simply export a customized $LDFLAGS in the spec file >>without

File Env-Path-0.18.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2011-11-07 Thread Iain Arnell
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[perl-Env-Path] initial import (rhbz#751531)

2011-11-07 Thread Iain Arnell
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[perl-Env-Path/f16] initial import (rhbz#751531)

2011-11-07 Thread Iain Arnell
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[perl-Env-Path/f15] initial import (rhbz#751531)

2011-11-07 Thread Iain Arnell
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File MooseX-Has-Sugar-0.05070419.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2011-11-07 Thread Iain Arnell
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[perl-MooseX-Has-Sugar] initial import (rhbz#751533)

2011-11-07 Thread Iain Arnell
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[perl-MooseX-Has-Sugar/f16] initial import (rhbz#751533)

2011-11-07 Thread Iain Arnell
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Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2011-11-06 at 22:42 +, Bojan Smojver wrote: > drago01 gmail.com> writes: > > > Not true ... I recommend reading > > https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/#Activities_Overview > > I read that a long, long time ago, of course. In fact, I have written a > constructive critique of Gno

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 10:11 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: > >> For now let's say yes, but that's more like implementation detail than > >> fundamental property. Clutter'd be perfectly happy atop a GLES > >> renderer, we just don't have that wired up. > > Ok -- that doesn't sound so terrible. Are

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-07 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 10:50 -0500, Tom Callaway wrote: > On 11/07/2011 10:35 AM, Ville Skyttä wrote: > > On 11/07/2011 01:57 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > >> * The %configure macro (at least since F-16) does > >> LDFLAGS="${LDFLAGS:--Wl,-z,relro }"; export LDFLAGS; > >>so one cannot

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-07 Thread Tim Waugh
On Sat, 2011-11-05 at 13:02 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > twaugh ghostscript > twaugh gutenprint I've rebuilt these two. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-07 Thread John Ellson
On 11/07/2011 12:16 PM, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Sat, 2011-11-05 at 13:02 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> twaugh ghostscript >> twaugh gutenprint > I've rebuilt these two. > > Tim. > */ > (Apologies for replying to your reply, Tim, but I wasn't subscribed at the start of this thread.) I'm a graphviz upst

Evolution 3.3.1 in rawhide

2011-11-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Hi, Just managed to upgrade tonight, but there seems to be a hitch with evolution - none of my folders appear! When I run from the command line, I'm getting the following [paul@PB3 ~]$ evolution evolution-shell-CRITICAL **: shell_settings_pspec_for_key: assertion `schema_name != NULL' failed G

Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit

2011-11-07 Thread Tomas Mraz
On the today's FESCo meeting we discussed the request to move forward the conversion of the sysvinit scripts to systemd units in Fedora 17. The packages which ship sysvinit script but do not ship systemd unit according to the Fedora packaging guidelines violate this rule: https://fedoraproject.or

FESCo meeting agenda for Oct 7 2011

2011-11-07 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
I forgot on agenda, so I'm sending it now :-/ Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting today at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #top

Re: Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit

2011-11-07 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Tomas Mraz wrote: > Eventual blocking of the packages that violate this Fedora packaging > rule was not yet definitively decided upon, but we agreed that the > Fedora package maintainers should be warned that such blocking might > happen before the Fedora 17 Alpha

Re: Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit

2011-11-07 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 20:28 +0100, Tomas Mraz wrote: > On the today's FESCo meeting we discussed the request to move forward > the conversion of the sysvinit scripts to systemd units in Fedora 17. > > The packages which ship sysvinit script but do not ship systemd unit > according to the Fedora p

Re: Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit

2011-11-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:35:18 -0900 Jef Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Tomas Mraz wrote: > > Eventual blocking of the packages that violate this Fedora packaging > > rule was not yet definitively decided upon, but we agreed that the > > Fedora package maintainers should be warne

FESCo meeting minutes for Oct 7 2011

2011-11-07 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2011-11-07) === Meeting started by mmaslano at 17:06:29 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-11-07/fesco.2011-11-07-17.06.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit

2011-11-07 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 10:35 -0900, Jef Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Tomas Mraz wrote: > > Eventual blocking of the packages that violate this Fedora packaging > > rule was not yet definitively decided upon, but we agreed that the > > Fedora package maintainers should be warne

Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It seems to be a weekly occurrence of a new CVE for some app that uses /tmp insecurely. I have been on a crusade for years to stop privileged services from using /tmp and /var/tmp. These services can be potentially be interfered by unprivileged users

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 7.11.2011 20:50, Daniel J Walsh napsal(a): > systemd as of Fedora 16 has the ability to run system services with > private /tmp and /var/tmp. I would like to propose that we make this > the default in Fedora 17, or at least open a bugzilla on all system > services that we know of that use /tmp

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Kurt Seifried
Sounds good to me. On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > It seems to be a weekly occurrence of a new CVE for some app that uses > /tmp insecurely. > > I have been on a crusade for years to stop privileged services from > using

Re: Evolution 3.3.1 in rawhide

2011-11-07 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 19:10 +, Paul Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > > Just managed to upgrade tonight, but there seems to be a hitch with > evolution - none of my folders appear! > None of your "local" folders appear, such as with pop, or imap folders or something else? I don't run it but thoug

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/07/2011 03:38 PM, Matej Cepl wrote: > Dne 7.11.2011 20:50, Daniel J Walsh napsal(a): >> systemd as of Fedora 16 has the ability to run system services >> with private /tmp and /var/tmp. I would like to propose that we >> make this the default in

Re: Evolution 3.3.1 in rawhide

2011-11-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Hi, On 7 November 2011 20:38, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 19:10 +, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > Just managed to upgrade tonight, but there seems to be a hitch with > > evolution - none of my folders appear! > > > > None of your "local" folders appear, such as with

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Daniel J Walsh said: > I know I just opened a couple of other features on Fedora 17. I just > wanted to open discussion on this about what would be the best way to > do this. > > * Maybe a bad idea. Since admins might get confused by different /tmp(s). Hmm, one question: is i

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/07/2011 03:44 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Daniel J Walsh said: >> I know I just opened a couple of other features on Fedora 17. I >> just wanted to open discussion on this about what would be the >> best way to do this. >> >> *

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 14:55 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > Details of rawhide builds for them here[1], the XO-1 build isn't > tested but the XO 1.5 one works fine, I'll be testing further and > likely the next build I do I'll add all the components to test the > llvmpipe feature on them. Don't fr

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 15:42 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/07/2011 03:38 PM, Matej Cepl wrote: > > Dne 7.11.2011 20:50, Daniel J Walsh napsal(a): > >> systemd as of Fedora 16 has the ability to run system services > >> with private /tmp and

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 09:38:09PM +0100, Matej Cepl wrote: > Dne 7.11.2011 20:50, Daniel J Walsh napsal(a): > > systemd as of Fedora 16 has the ability to run system services with > > private /tmp and /var/tmp. I would like to propose that we make this > > the default in Fedora 17, or at least op

Re: Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit

2011-11-07 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/07/2011 07:41 PM, Tomas Mraz wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 10:35 -0900, Jef Spaleta wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Tomas Mraz wrote: >>> Eventual blocking of the packages that violate this Fedora packaging >>> rule was not yet definitively decided upon, but we agreed that the >>

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 14:55 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> Details of rawhide builds for them here[1], the XO-1 build isn't >> tested but the XO 1.5 one works fine, I'll be testing further and >> likely the next build I do I'll add all the c

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) said: > I know I just opened a couple of other features on Fedora 17. I just > wanted to open discussion on this about what would be the best way to > do this. > > * Make it default in systemd I think that would be problematic if it's applied to all units; it'

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Daniel J Walsh said: > I think this is a question for lennart, I am not sure how he sets them > up. If I was setting them up, I would probably set them up by default > under /run/SERVICE/tmp and bind mount over /tmp or something like > that. And I would figure the root user cou

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/07/2011 04:08 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 15:42 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 11/07/2011 03:38 PM, Matej Cepl wrote: >>> Dne 7.11.2011 20:50, Daniel J Walsh napsal(a): >>

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Bojan Smojver
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 14:33 +0100, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > You won't be able to convince Gnome3 zealots. That's a bit harsh, I think. They are just very impressionable folk. :-) > Believe me, a lot of people tried. I would like to believe that a rational argument eventually prevails. > Vote wit

why do I need colord?

2011-11-07 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system? My system is ordinary web developer box with php, python, postgresql, mysql, memcached, cherokee, httpd etc. Colord was installed because of dependencies. But I would like to know why I need this package? My system worked wi

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Bojan Smojver
Mike Chambers miketc.net> writes: > Reading all sorts of stuff or trying to but havcen't found yours yet > (don't like it neither, so wanted to see your thoughts on it too) If you google '"on gnome 3" bojan', it should come up in top 10. -- Bojan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedorapro

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread drago01
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Bojan Smojver wrote: > Mike Chambers miketc.net> writes: > >> Reading all sorts of stuff or trying to but havcen't found yours yet >> (don't like it neither, so wanted to see your thoughts on it too) > > If you google '"on gnome 3" bojan', it should come up in top

Retiring my gimp repository

2011-11-07 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Now that Nils, Gimp maintainer, created Gimp Unstable repository[1], there is no more reason to duplicate that effort. Without fanfare, I decide to retire my own version[2] thus delete the repo. Thank you all for using my package. That was a good experience as package maintainer. [1] http://re

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Bojan Smojver
Mathieu Bridon fedoraproject.org> writes: > And if you really loved Gnome 2 so much If this is what think, then you really completely missed what I'm trying to say. The main reason I'm using the fallback mode is the insanity of overview in gnome-shell. Don't worry - I'm sure someone will write

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Bojan Smojver
drago01 gmail.com> writes: > Just point people to the link directly if you want them to read it > (should be easier for both sides). Spamming the list with links to my own site is not something I want to do. If someone really wants to read that, they'll find it. -- Bojan -- devel mailing list

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Bojan Smojver
Bojan Smojver rexursive.com> writes: > Don't worry - I'm sure someone will write an extension that will nuke the > stupid Activities button sooner or later. I'm behind times: http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html Open source - it's a wonderful thing. -- Bojan -- devel mailin

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:35:53 +0200, VS (Ville) wrote: > > * The %configure macro (at least since F-16) does > > LDFLAGS="${LDFLAGS:--Wl,-z,relro }"; export LDFLAGS; > >so one cannot simply export a customized $LDFLAGS in the spec file > >without disturbing the macro. > > That's wha

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 16:05 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 14:55 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > Details of rawhide builds for them here[1], the XO-1 build isn't > > tested but the XO 1.5 one works fine, I'll be testing further and > > likely the next build I do I'll add all

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 09:31 +1100, Bojan Smojver wrote: > I think what will most likely happen is that someone out there will come > up with an extension to nuke the Activities button and replace it with > Applications button. And that will be the end of that discussion. There's been one for mont

Re: why do I need colord?

2011-11-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
2011/11/7 Michał Piotrowski : > Hi, > > Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system? > > My system is ordinary web developer box with php, python, postgresql, > mysql, memcached, cherokee, httpd etc. Colord was installed because of > dependencies. But I would like to know wh

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Bojan Smojver
Adam Williamson redhat.com> writes: > There's been one for months, and yet 'the end of that discussion' does > not appear to have come, and not all Shell users use it. > > http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html Yeah, guilty as charged on the discussion bit. -- Bojan -- devel m

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 07.11.11 14:50, Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > It seems to be a weekly occurrence of a new CVE for some app that uses > /tmp insecurely. > > I have been on a crusade for years to stop privileged services from > using /tmp a

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 07.11.11 14:44, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote: > Once upon a time, Daniel J Walsh said: > > I know I just opened a couple of other features on Fedora 17. I just > > wanted to open discussion on this about what would be the best way to > > do this. > > > > * Maybe a bad idea. S

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 07.11.11 15:25, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote: > Once upon a time, Daniel J Walsh said: > > I think this is a question for lennart, I am not sure how he sets them > > up. If I was setting them up, I would probably set them up by default > > under /run/SERVICE/tmp and bind mount

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said: > Yes, since they are created as subdirectories of the real / with mkdtemp() > and thus can be found there like any other directory if you are running > in the main namespaces. > > No, since there's currently no sane way to figure out the private /tmp >

Re: New build of fedpkg (fedora-packager) coming to updates-testing / rawhide

2011-11-07 Thread Jesse Keating
On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > For f15 through rawhide and epel 6 there is a new update coming for fedpkg > (part of fedora-packager). > > This build is a pretty major rewrite to make use of a shared pyrpkg backend. > Coming along for the ride is a new build of GitPython whi

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 11/08/2011 12:45 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 09:31 +1100, Bojan Smojver wrote: > >> I think what will most likely happen is that someone out there will come >> up with an extension to nuke the Activities button and replace it with >> Applications button. And that will be

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 07.11.11 16:08, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 15:42 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 11/07/2011 03:38 PM, Matej Cepl wrote: > > > Dne 7.11.2011 20:50, Daniel J Walsh napsal(a): > > >> systemd as of

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 07.11.11 19:15, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote: > Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said: > > Yes, since they are created as subdirectories of the real / with mkdtemp() > > and thus can be found there like any other directory if you are running > > in the main namespaces. > >

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > If run on the main namespace all they see is that the files are in some > randomized subdir of /tmp, instead of /tmp itself. Is the randomization required? If they were named after the user/service that created them (perhaps with some ra

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Gregory Maxwell said: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > If run on the main namespace all they see is that the files are in some > > randomized subdir of /tmp, instead of /tmp itself. > > Is the randomization required? If they were named after th

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > Well, if they're subdirectories of /tmp, you'd have to deal with all the > usual /tmp attacks of known targets. Hmph? They wouldn't be accessible to anything except root I assume. Because they're long lived the random names shouldn't provide

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-07 Thread Peter Gordon
On Sat, 2011-11-05 at 13:02 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > pgordon glabels > pgordon lucidlife Thanks for the FYI email. I rebuilt both of these yesterday with no problems and no source changes necessary. Regards. -- Peter Gordon (codergeek42) Who am I? :: http://thecodergeek.com/about-me signa

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Gregory Maxwell said: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > > Well, if they're subdirectories of /tmp, you'd have to deal with all the > > usual /tmp attacks of known targets. > > Hmph? They wouldn't be accessible to anything except root I assume. > > Because

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > It seems like a similar bug has come up before in clamav: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573191 This issue affects many JITs. The WebKit JIT is affected too. Actually, the execmem boolean has been enabled by default for a while, did it get disabled agai

Re: why do I need colord?

2011-11-07 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system? Try "yum remove colord" and see what it wants to remove (and probably say "no" if it's anything important to you), then you'll know what drags it in (whether for good reasons or not). Kevin K

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 04:48 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > It seems like a similar bug has come up before in clamav: > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573191 > > This issue affects many JITs. The WebKit JIT is affected too. Actually, the > execmem boole

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 09:31 +1100, Bojan Smojver wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 14:33 +0100, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > You won't be able to convince Gnome3 zealots. > > That's a bit harsh, I think. They are just very impressionable folk. :-) That's also a bit harsh I think, and I'd appreciate it

Re: Evolution 3.3.1 in rawhide

2011-11-07 Thread Milan Crha
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 19:10 +, Paul Johnson wrote: > Just managed to upgrade tonight, but there seems to be a hitch with > evolution - none of my folders appear! > ... > > GLib-GObject-WARNING **: g_object_get_property: object class > `EShellSettings' has no property named `mail-enable-local-f

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 7.11.2011 22:44, Daniel J Walsh napsal(a): > I often do this, (Probably did it with winbind.) but in some cases the > maintainer might not know how to make the change or upstream would not > want the change. Well, if this project should ever succeeded than those bugs should have probably patc

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 7.11.2011 22:12, Matthew Garrett napsal(a): > Having some public discussion of a potentially contentious feature is a > great way to help fesco make decisions. I'm personally in favour of that > happening on a mailing list rather than in the discussion page on a wiki > - it's a lot easier to fo

Re: why do I need colord?

2011-11-07 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/11/8 Stephen John Smoogen : > 2011/11/7 Michał Piotrowski : >> Hi, >> >> Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system? >> >> My system is ordinary web developer box with php, python, postgresql, >> mysql, memcached, cherokee, httpd etc. Colord was installed because of >>

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Bojan Smojver
Mathieu Bridon fedoraproject.org> writes: > You probably want to switch to Linux Mint 12 when it comes out with > their GSME enabled. Now you're being funny. :-) -- Bojan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: why do I need colord?

2011-11-07 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/11/8 Kevin Kofler : > Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system? > > Try "yum remove colord" and see what it wants to remove (and probably say > "no" if it's anything important to you), then you'll know what drags it in > (whether for good