Re: F14: after last updates, getting Eclipse out of memory errors

2010-11-22 Thread Alexander Kurtakov
On 10:05:21 am Sunday, November 21, 2010 Marius Andreiana wrote: > Hi, > > After getting latest updates (glibc and eclise), I started getting > reproducible Eclipse out of memory errors (happens during AppEngine > deploys). Haven't done any other changes to my env besides yum update. > Should I fi

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Henrik Nordström
sön 2010-11-21 klockan 11:00 +0100 skrev Till Maas: > I guess this can be somehow automated. E.g. change Bodhi to drop the > karma requirements for packages that had e.g. two subsequent updates > without any Bodhi feedback and re-enable it if they get feedback. That would be somewhat counter prod

Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-22 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 11/22/2010 12:59 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 23:04 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> In short: Want higher-quality updates for previous releases? Then push >> version upgrades wherever possible (even and especially for libraries, as >> long as they're ABI-compatible or

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-22 Thread Henrik Nordström
fre 2010-11-05 klockan 12:53 + skrev "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson": > Reports came in --><-- Auto responce reply back to the reporter --> QA > verified try to duplicate bug --> Bug set to maintainer --> Bug stayed > like that until EOL You forgot Bug was actually fixed from upstream relase,

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Michal Hlavinka
On Saturday, November 20, 2010 23:35:43 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > ok, I dug through the devel list for the last month or two and wrote > down all the various ideas folks have come up with to change/improve > things. > > Here (in no particular order) are the ideas and some notes from me on > how we coul

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-22 Thread Henrik Nordström
lör 2010-11-06 klockan 14:08 +0100 skrev Till Maas: > I have no problem to verify a bug when the maintainer is ready to fix > it. But it is pretty annoying to verify it within a small time window > regularly just to have it ignored till the next EOL date. Understood. And the same issue is also on

rawhide report: 20101122 changes

2010-11-22 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Nov 22 08:15:03 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0()(64bit) beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0(VER_1)(64bit) bognor-regis-0.6.11-1

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-22 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/19/2010 09:41 PM, Matej Cepl wrote: > Dne 19.11.2010 15:40, Przemek Klosowski napsal(a): >> - freeze glibc to avoid this bug ever (OK, maybe this one isn't serious) >> - fix glibc or the flash wrapper to accommodate the buggy clients >> - bug Adobe to fix the bug ASAP, do nothing in Fedora >>

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-22 Thread Magnus Glantz
On 11/22/2010 11:52 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 11/19/2010 09:41 PM, Matej Cepl wrote: >> Dne 19.11.2010 15:40, Przemek Klosowski napsal(a): >>> - freeze glibc to avoid this bug ever (OK, maybe this one isn't serious) >>> - fix glibc or the flash wrapper to accommodate the buggy clients >>> - bug

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-22 Thread Henrik Nordström
fre 2010-11-05 klockan 21:37 +0100 skrev Michael Schwendt: > Something is terribly wrong here, if reporter adjusts F12 -> F13 -> F14 > over a period of N months in reply to the automated NEEDINFO requests and > still doesn't get any response other than another automated one after > six more months

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-22 Thread dexter
On 21 November 2010 18:10, Adam Williamson wrote: > If I were a KDE user running F12 I'd feel very > unsafe knowing someone was happily pushing updates of the entire > environment who did not even have a running F12 machine. I am such a user and I have no such feeling :-) but thanks for asking.

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > But the fact remains that *right now*, this is what Fedora is. I think > that it makes sense to commit to being whatever we are fully. Right now, > we're a stable release distribution; we should work to make those > releases properly stable, to actually be what we represent

Packages with wrong pom filenames

2010-11-22 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
My recent work on Maven 3 showed that we have quite a few packages in tree that incorrectly use add_to_maven_depmap macro. That is especially true to installing pom files. Therefore I created additional rpmlint check[1] to verify correct placement of pom file as advertised in add_to_maven_depmap.

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-22 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:39:14PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Let people use their brains. If they screw up, yell at them, and work on > informing people in a better way so such mistakes don't happen again. Everyone makes mistakes. The idea is to provide an opportunity for people's mistakes t

File Mojolicious-0.999941.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by yaneti

2010-11-22 Thread Yanko Kaneti
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[perl-Mojolicious] 0.999941 - Latest upstream release.

2010-11-22 Thread Yanko Kaneti
commit 8c023f661cbde546616eea5b5187b8e184b7819d Author: Yanko Kaneti Date: Mon Nov 22 15:53:17 2010 +0200 0.41 - Latest upstream release. .gitignore|1 + perl-Mojolicious.spec |5 - sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(

Re: updates-testing trainwreck.

2010-11-22 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 09:20 +1000, Brendan Jones wrote: > > Isn't there any way we can update the icon cache spec to add a checksum > > or something? Or is the corruption just wrong data, not bad data? I > > periodically get nm-applet crashes due to a bad icon cache that I'd > > rather not have t

[perl-Mojolicious] Created tag perl-Mojolicious-0.999941-1.fc15

2010-11-22 Thread Yanko Kaneti
The lightweight tag 'perl-Mojolicious-0.41-1.fc15' was created pointing to: 8c023f6... 0.41 - Latest upstream release. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ma

[Bug 652158] Use of :locked is deprecated

2010-11-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=652158 --- Comment #6 from Tom "spot" Callaway 2010-11-22 09:16:10 EST --- Ugh. I hate it when people drop my patches. :P I need to fi

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-22 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/22/2010 04:21 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 11/22/2010 12:59 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> It seems like what you want is actually not to have three releases at a >> time at all but to have one and update it constantly. And I actually >> rather suspect that would be a model that wo

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michal Hlavinka wrote: > I like this idea, but I'm pretty sure this won't happen. I don't like the > bureaucracy you can see all around you. Fixing problems caused by > individual failure (or individual's failure) with new policy/law does not > make happy contributors/people. This is the exact beha

[Bug 652158] Use of :locked is deprecated

2010-11-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=652158 --- Comment #10 from Vadym Chepkov 2010-11-22 10:11:40 EST --- My bad, didn't update perl-Net-SNMP Seems to be working now, tha

[Bug 652158] Use of :locked is deprecated

2010-11-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=652158 --- Comment #9 from Vadym Chepkov 2010-11-22 10:08:50 EST --- :( rpm -qi mrtg Name: mrtg Relo

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 14:13 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > I DON'T want to get an upgrade such as the one from KDE 3 to 4, the one from > Amarok 1 to 2, the one from KDevelop 3 to 4, the one from GNOME 2 to 3 etc. > as a regular update! Those are what new releases are for! (And there's your > "cl

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 16:01 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Right, and the big point there should be that a bug which can corrupt mail > folders should be fixed IMMEDIATELY, i.e. with a direct stable push! ANY > testing requirement there is a failure. How about testing that it doesn't corrupt mail

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 10:21 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > The way I see it, is we have: > > rawhide (and for a part of the cycle Fedora #+1 testing) > Fedora # > Fedora #-1 > Fedora #-2 > > Fedora #+1 is for people who want the bleeding edge > Fedora # is for people who want the latest and gre

[Bug 649372] Dependency on perl-libwww-perl missing

2010-11-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=649372 --- Comment #3 from Ian Chapman 2010-11-22 11:24:26 EST --- Sorry, my wording was misleading. I didn't necessarily mean an expl

[Bug 652158] Use of :locked is deprecated

2010-11-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=652158 --- Comment #11 from Harold Campbell 2010-11-22 11:32:21 EST --- Updated mrtg looks good here. -- Configure bugmail: https://

[Bug 649372] Dependency on perl-libwww-perl missing

2010-11-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=649372 --- Comment #4 from Ian Chapman 2010-11-22 11:37:43 EST --- Not that Fedora necessarily does the same thing as other distros bu

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-22 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 09:49:42PM -0500, Kyle McMartin wrote: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 03:33:56AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Me. And I'm already angry at having to manually modprobe floppy in rc.local: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567533 > > If you're "angry" about a minor

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Kevin Kofler wrote: > Right, and the big point there should be that a bug which can corrupt mail > folders should be fixed IMMEDIATELY, i.e. with a direct stable push! ANY > testing requirement there is a failure. So you'll double, triple, ultra swear that this[1] will never happen again? [1] ht

File Padre-0.74.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2010-11-22 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Padre: 714f398c6f5a09d0941e53e751267a6d Padre-0.74.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2010-11-22 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Friday 19 November 2010, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > Ville: The jpackage_script macro is great and we'll be adding it to the > documentation. You are welcome to add it to [1], since I think you know > most about it so a few lines describing how it works would be best. Done, https://fedorapr

[perl-Padre] 0.74 bump

2010-11-22 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 7446a99d8b11d08dc4d5b059aacbcebb8972e0dc Author: Petr Písař Date: Mon Nov 22 17:58:56 2010 +0100 0.74 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Padre.spec | 65 +++--- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 58 insertions(+), 10 delet

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Adam Miller
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:49:38AM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Right, and the big point there should be that a bug which can corrupt mail > > folders should be fixed IMMEDIATELY, i.e. with a direct stable push! ANY > > testing requirement there is a failure. > > So

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 09:57:40AM +0100, Henrik Nordström wrote: > sön 2010-11-21 klockan 11:00 +0100 skrev Till Maas: > > > I guess this can be somehow automated. E.g. change Bodhi to drop the > > karma requirements for packages that had e.g. two subsequent updates > > without any Bodhi feedback

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Adam Miller [22/11/2010 18:03] : > > As though swearing it will never happen is even possible to deliver? I believe that's Michael's whole point. The whole 'push directly to stable' arguement rests heavily on the principle that an update is always better (from a QA standpoint) than whatever i

[Bug 654771] perl-Padre-0.74 is available

2010-11-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=654771 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 18:09 +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Adam Miller [22/11/2010 18:03] : > > > > As though swearing it will never happen is even possible to deliver? > > I believe that's Michael's whole point. > > The whole 'push directly to stable' arguement rests heavily on the principl

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-22 Thread Till Maas
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 09:59:42PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:35:31 +0100, > Till Maas wrote: > > > > IMHO it is pretty unlikely that people use updates-testing but do not > > care about posting feedback to Bodhi. > > I usually notice only when something breaks,

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-22 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 11/20/2010 06:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > That's not what I'm talking about. There have been multiple instances > where updates have been pushed that were *completely broken*: they could > not work at all, in any fashion, for anyone. It doesn't happen a lot, > but it happens; enough to prov

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-22 Thread Björn Persson
Henrik Nordström wrote: > * Slight adjustment of karma to provide choices "Works for me", "Problem > still present" and "New problems seen" > > * "Works for me" is a +1, and also adds the refereced bug as fixed by > the update if not already in the list of fixed bugs. > > * "Problem still present

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:36:48PM -0600, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > On 11/21/2010 17:51, Björn Persson wrote: > > Andre Robatino wrote: > >> My feeling is that it would be better for Bodhi to always require a login. > >> Even Bugzilla does that. I suspect that a lot of people who give anonymous >

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 09:15:17AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 18:09 +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > > The whole 'push directly to stable' arguement rests heavily on the principle > > that an update is always better (from a QA standpoint) than whatever it's > > replacing.

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-22 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/22/2010 09:44 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > repo. > > * Whenever we move a bunch of packages from staging to > stable we raise the minor number to M.(n+1). Larger > changes may require major number bump if deemed > appropriate (e.g

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-22 Thread Till Maas
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 02:09:47PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > I do. I don't believe all maintainers do. It's pretty hard to explain > why updates that completely prevent the app in question from working, or Btw. this is not a problem that might happen with updates, but also happens with init

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 13:23 -0500, Genes MailLists wrote: >* A major version should be imposed every 6 months if it > has not for some reason. Why? Your idea of tying version bumps to actual changes in the product rather than an arbitrary timeline is an interesting one, b

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 19:29 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 02:09:47PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I do. I don't believe all maintainers do. It's pretty hard to explain > > why updates that completely prevent the app in question from working, or > > Btw. this is not a pr

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-22 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/22/2010 01:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 13:23 -0500, Genes MailLists wrote: > >>* A major version should be imposed every 6 months if it >> has not for some reason. > > Why? Your idea of tying version bumps to actual changes in the product >

File File-Path-Tiny-0.1.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2010-11-22 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-File-Path-Tiny: 3a2ac2277304b6a1c017f24c8327f55a File-Path-Tiny-0.1.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/

[perl-File-Path-Tiny] initial import

2010-11-22 Thread Iain Arnell
commit fc3b917413bc4f25cbd08d6b7884c8271e8849f1 Author: Iain Arnell Date: Mon Nov 22 19:50:30 2010 +0100 initial import .gitignore |1 + perl-File-Path-Tiny.spec | 48 ++ sources |1 + 3 files changed, 50

[perl-File-Path-Tiny/f14/master] initial import

2010-11-22 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: fc3b917... initial import (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

[perl-File-Path-Tiny/f13/master] initial import

2010-11-22 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: fc3b917... initial import (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

[perl-File-Path-Tiny/el6/master] initial import

2010-11-22 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: fc3b917... initial import (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

[perl-File-Path-Tiny/el5/master] initial import

2010-11-22 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: fc3b917... initial import (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 13:47 -0500, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 11/22/2010 01:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 13:23 -0500, Genes MailLists wrote: > > > >>* A major version should be imposed every 6 months if it > >> has not for some reason. > > > >

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-22 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/22/2010 01:59 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>Do you have any suggestions how to manage ensuring that each ISO >> snapshot has a working anaconda ? > > This is the kind of thing automated testing would help a lot with; we > already have some automated testing of anaconda in place, but it do

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-22 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:43:21AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 19:29 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 02:09:47PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > I do. I don't believe all maintainers do. It's pretty hard to explain > > > why updates that complet

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 08:18:04AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 10:21 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > > > The way I see it, is we have: > > > > rawhide (and for a part of the cycle Fedora #+1 testing) > > Fedora # > > Fedora #-1 > > Fedora #-2 > > > > Fedora #+1 is for peo

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-22 Thread Jesse Keating
On 11/22/2010 11:18 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > They said that they install a Fedora for testing > purposes when it first comes out and enjoy the rapid pace of bugfixes as > they test the software in their environment. Then, the update pace slows > down at about the same time their ready to push

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Other concrete ideas? Quite frankly, I do not care for any of the ideas you mentioned. Here's some of my own: * Reduce quarantine time from 7 days to 3 days Reasoning: Mirror syncing. I'm not going to actively seek out and install 30 packages from koji every single day. I'

[Bug 655982] New: perl-CPAN-Checksums-2.07 is available

2010-11-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-CPAN-Checksums-2.07 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=655982 Summary: perl-CPAN-Checksums-2.07 is available Product: Fedo

[Bug 655985] New: perl-PAR-Packer-1.008 is available

2010-11-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-PAR-Packer-1.008 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=655985 Summary: perl-PAR-Packer-1.008 is available Product: Fedora

[Bug 655986] New: perl-PPIx-EditorTools-0.11 is available

2010-11-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-PPIx-EditorTools-0.11 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=655986 Summary: perl-PPIx-EditorTools-0.11 is available Product:

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Jesse Keating
On 11/22/2010 11:42 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > * Allow direct-to-stable > > If "Signed-off" bodhi checkbox (web) or command option (tui) is provided > by the maintainer certifying that the maintainer believes the update > will work. The check should default to off, and always off, to requi

kde-4.5.80 (4.6beta1) coming to rawhide

2010-11-22 Thread Rex Dieter
the kde-sig imported kde-4.5.80 into rawhide today. enjoy, and let us know what breaks. -- Rex -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Jesse Keating wrote: > It sounds like what you're asking for is the ability to have a 0 karma > autopush limit. Yes, that was my intension. My mistake for not making it clearer. It was my understanding of reading the complaints that this is what they [complainers] desire - a reversal of what we

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Jesse Keating
On 11/22/2010 11:56 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > It was my understanding of reading the complaints that this is what they > [complainers] desire - a reversal of what we require now (3 karma and/or > proventester if critpath). Critpath requires +1 proven tester and +1 anybody. Total of +2.

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Jesse Keating wrote: > Critpath requires +1 proven tester and +1 anybody. Total of +2. Non > crit-path requires a minimum of +1 anybody or a 7 day timeout I do believe. > > I do not believe we require +3 anywhere. We/default/ the karma > autopush level at +3/-3, but that's just a suggestion. >

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 12:02 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 11/22/2010 11:56 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > It was my understanding of reading the complaints that this is what they > > [complainers] desire - a reversal of what we require now (3 karma and/or > > proventester if critpath). >

pdftk requires tomcat5?

2010-11-22 Thread Casey Dahlin
Sizewise this didn't end up being an awful cost for me, but why on earth would this happen? Installing: pdftk x86_64 1.41-27.fc14 fedora 76 k Installing for dependencies: bouncycastlex86_64 1.45-1.fc13fedora 3.3 M boun

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-22 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>    Good point ... was thinking it was a way to ensure anaconda keeps >> pace but you're right ... it should follow the actual changes ... >> >>    Do you have any suggestions how to manage ensuring that each ISO >> snapshot has a working

Re: pdftk requires tomcat5?

2010-11-22 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Casey Dahlin wrote: > Sizewise this didn't end up being an awful cost for me, but why on earth would > this happen? > > Installing: >  pdftk                       x86_64     1.41-27.fc14           fedora      76 > k > Installing for dependencies: >  bouncycastle  

Re: pdftk requires tomcat5?

2010-11-22 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:19:35PM -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Casey Dahlin wrote: > > Sizewise this didn't end up being an awful cost for me, but why on earth > > would > > this happen? > > > > Installing: > >  pdftk                       x86_64     1.41-27.fc14

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-22 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:15 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>>    Good point ... was thinking it was a way to ensure anaconda keeps >>> pace but you're right ... it should follow the actual changes ... >>> >>>    Do you have any suggestions ho

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Here's the latest list of ideas culled from this thread. Note: these are NOT my ideas, I am just gathering them up so fesco can discuss them. Feel free to add more concrete ideas, or let me know if I missed one you had posted. If folks could avoid "me too" or posts that contain no new informati

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: >> How do you expect to be able to maintain an entire desktop environment >> on a distribution you don't even have installed? I have some sympathy >> for the 'fifty people said it works on F14, it probably works on F12 >

[Test-Announce] Please Help Test 389 Directory Server 1.2.7

2010-11-22 Thread Rich Megginson
389-ds-base-1.2.7 is now in Testing. This release adds some new features and fixes many bugs. Please help us test. The sooner we can get this release tested, the sooner we can push it to Stable and make it generally available. Installation yum install 389-ds --enablerepo=updates-testing

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-22 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:31:05PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > So they stay in updates-testing until someone does actually test them. > > We all know that the longer that updates wait in updates-testing the > more likely the world will stop spinning. It is totally annoying and time consuming to h

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:47:59 +0100 Till Maas wrote: > It is totally annoying and time consuming to hit fixed bugs again, > just because the update has not been pushed from testing to stable. I > cannot really imagine that I am the only one experiencing this ever > and ever again. E.g. just today

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Tom Lane
Adam Williamson writes: > On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 12:02 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: >> Critpath requires +1 proven tester and +1 anybody. Total of +2. Non >> crit-path requires a minimum of +1 anybody or a 7 day timeout I do believe. >> >> I do not believe we require +3 anywhere. We /default/ th

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Björn Persson
Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:36:48PM -0600, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > > On 11/21/2010 17:51, Björn Persson wrote: > > > Andre Robatino wrote: > > >> My feeling is that it would be better for Bodhi to always require a > > >> login. Even Bugzilla does that. I suspect that a lo

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:02:49PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 11/22/2010 11:56 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > It was my understanding of reading the complaints that this is what they > > [complainers] desire - a reversal of what we require now (3 karma and/or > > proventester if critpat

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 16:39 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > Adam Williamson writes: > > On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 12:02 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > >> Critpath requires +1 proven tester and +1 anybody. Total of +2. Non > >> crit-path requires a minimum of +1 anybody or a 7 day timeout I do believe. > >>

[Bug 632176] perl-Log-Log4perl-1.31 is available

2010-11-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632176 --- Comment #7 from Fedora Update System 2010-11-22 17:20:02 EST --- perl-Log-Log4perl-1.30-1.fc14 has been pushed to the Fedor

[Bug 632176] perl-Log-Log4perl-1.31 is available

2010-11-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632176 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added --

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-22 Thread Jesse Keating
On 11/22/10 12:47 PM, Till Maas wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:31:05PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > >> So they stay in updates-testing until someone does actually test them. >> >> We all know that the longer that updates wait in updates-testing the >> more likely the world will stop spinning. >

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Jesse Keating
On 11/22/10 1:50 PM, Till Maas wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:02:49PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: >> On 11/22/2010 11:56 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >>> It was my understanding of reading the complaints that this is what they >>> [complainers] desire - a reversal of what we require now (3

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Michal Hlavinka wrote: >> this could help, but it's not always possible to add these test cases. One >> example: imap server package - new bug that can corrupt mail folders in >> some circumstances. Maintainer updates package and sets 'type=bu

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Till Maas wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 09:57:40AM +0100, Henrik Nordström wrote: >> sön 2010-11-21 klockan 11:00 +0100 skrev Till Maas: >> >> > I guess this can be somehow automated. E.g. change Bodhi to drop the >> > karma requirements for packages that had e.

Fedora Board, FESCo & FAmSCo Elections - Voting Information

2010-11-22 Thread Robyn Bergeron
Greetings, The elections for the Fedora Board, Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo), and the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee (FAmSCo) began at UTC on 20th November 2010, and are scheduled to run until 23:59 UTC on 28th November 2010. (Please refer to a UTC time zone converter,

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-22 Thread Thomas Spura
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:32:04 -0800 Jesse Keating wrote: > On 11/22/10 12:47 PM, Till Maas wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:31:05PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > >> So they stay in updates-testing until someone does actually test > >> them. > >> > >> We all know that the longer that updates

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-22 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > It is already complicated enough to push a patch for Fedora.  One has to find > the right unused Patch number, add %patch, git add it, bump Revision, create a > %changelog entry with the BZ number, run Koji build, run Bodhi, copy the > %chan

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-22 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:44 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 09:35:54AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > * Can we finally remove hal? (xfce4.8 shouldn't need it anymore with > > any luck). > > Not without a pile of X changes, which themselves are blocking on > upstream k

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-22 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 10:23 -0500, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: > On 11/15/2010 10:11 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 09:35 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > >> * Can we finally remove hal? (xfce4.8 shouldn't need it anymore with > >> any luck). > > > > Only 30 packages left requi

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > But one of the main points of this subthread is that that waiting period is > way too long for some urgent fixes (security fixes, regression fixes etc.). > If it's really a regression, then you will have interested users who will test from up

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:39:29 -0500, Kyle McMartin wrote: > > Hi Kevin, (and Bruno if you're watching) > > Please try this: > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2614153 I've been running that kernel for a couple of days on one machine with floppies. (I am go to switch to -

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:39:29 -0500, Kyle McMartin wrote: > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 09:49:42PM -0500, Kyle McMartin wrote: > > And let me know what the output is on your machine (it uses ACPI to > query the _FDE table in firmware, so hopefully we can only bind to it if > a floppy is connecte

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-22 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 08:00:55PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2614153 > > I've been running that kernel for a couple of days on one machine > with floppies. (I am go to switch to -62 tonight.) Two other machines > I have with floppies are

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 21:24:41 -0500, Kyle McMartin wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 08:00:55PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2614153 > > > > I've been running that kernel for a couple of days on one machine > > with floppies. (I am go

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