Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chen Lei wrote: > How about qt-doc? Currently, it bundles src/qch/html docs, the src > image files are completely useless and duplicate with files in html > directory. The content of the qch and html docs is identical, since > assistant_adp is dropped by qt 4.7, I suggest to split html docs into >

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-08 Thread Chen Lei
2010/8/9 Kevin Kofler : > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> Depending on the technologies and applications involved I could see >> duplication being okay when one format is meant for people utilizing >> less /usr/share/doc/foo/*  vs running /usr/bin/documentationviewer or >> /usr/bin/programmer-ide > > Tha

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
I wrote: > As for the Internet connection: I've just downloaded root-doc in 4 > minutes, at 2.5 megaBYTES per second. And that's in Vienna, Austria. There > are places with even faster Internet connections. PS: That's my HOME connection. You don't want to know how fast I could download that file

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Depending on the technologies and applications involved I could see > duplication being okay when one format is meant for people utilizing > less /usr/share/doc/foo/* vs running /usr/bin/documentationviewer or > /usr/bin/programmer-ide That's the case for the KDE stuff: p

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jonathan Dieter wrote: > I've taken a look at the root source rpm, and it looks like root-doc is > generated by root itself *after* root has been completely built (rather > than as part of root's build process). > > I've opened a bug, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621812 > suggesting

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jonathan Dieter wrote: > While in the general case, I would agree with you, in this specific > case, I think it's worth building on the client. 687MB is a very large > download, over 90 minutes on a 1mbit/s link, and 45 minutes on a 2mbit/s > link. Because of the large size and number of files, i

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jonathan Underwood wrote: > As I said in the bug report, I don't think building docs client side > is the right way to go at all. In the general case this would require > end users to install extra tools to build the docs, and defeats the > purpose of a package managed system such as Fedora. +1 I

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-06 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 10:04 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > As I said in the bug report, I don't think building docs client side > is the right way to go at all. In the general case this would require > end users to install extra tools to build the docs, and defeats the > purpose of a package ma

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-06 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On 6 August 2010 09:53, Jonathan Dieter wrote: [snip] >> No, please not... >> Generating that documentation will take ages, so each time, %post needs >> at least 45 min - 1 hour to complete... >> (One of my reasons for switching to Fedora from Gentoo, was exactly >> that amount of updating time. ;

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-06 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 10:46 +0200, Thomas Spura wrote: > On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:03:46 +0300 > Jonathan Dieter wrote: > > > On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 06:27 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > > > On 5 August 2010 21:49, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > Yaah -- so if it's useful documentation, then I'd be

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-06 Thread Thomas Spura
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:03:46 +0300 Jonathan Dieter wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 06:27 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > > On 5 August 2010 21:49, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > Yaah -- so if it's useful documentation, then I'd be against > > > creating a rule that bans it. The next question wou

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-06 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 06:27 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > On 5 August 2010 21:49, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > Yaah -- so if it's useful documentation, then I'd be against creating a rule > > that bans it. The next question would be whether it's useful or not > > Public vs private certainl

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-05 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On 5 August 2010 21:49, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Yaah -- so if it's useful documentation, then I'd be against creating a rule > that bans it.  The next question would be whether it's useful or not > Public vs private certainly sounds like one thing to look at.  However, some > libraries might

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 01:45:08AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > I don't think we could just say don't package documentation that's > > ridiculously large but perhaps we could make some sort of guideline about > > not duplicating formats on extra large docs. Is the case w

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > I don't think we could just say don't package documentation that's > ridiculously large but perhaps we could make some sort of guideline about > not duplicating formats on extra large docs. Is the case with root-docs > (and/or kdelibs-apidocs) that we have docs in text + h

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 03:19:46PM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 14:24 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >> I don't think we could just say don't package documentation that's > >> ridiculously large but perhaps we could

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-05 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 15:19 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > > Please note that I'm not saying "don't package documentation that's > > ridiculously large", but rather, "don't package automatically generated > > documentation that's ridiculously

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-05 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 14:24 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> I don't think we could just say don't package documentation that's >> ridiculously large but perhaps we could make some sort of guideline about >> not duplicating formats on extra l

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-05 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 14:24 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > I don't think we could just say don't package documentation that's > ridiculously large but perhaps we could make some sort of guideline about > not duplicating formats on extra large docs. Is the case with root-docs > (and/or kdelibs-api

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 01:23:24PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 19:56 +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > > So I'm syncing up our school's local mirror over our rather slow > > internet connection and I notice that the root-doc subpackage (which is > > part of the root package) has

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-05 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 19:56 +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > So I'm syncing up our school's local mirror over our rather slow > internet connection and I notice that the root-doc subpackage (which is > part of the root package) has just hit the slightly obese size of 687MB > [1]. For reference, the

root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-05 Thread Jonathan Dieter
So I'm syncing up our school's local mirror over our rather slow internet connection and I notice that the root-doc subpackage (which is part of the root package) has just hit the slightly obese size of 687MB [1]. For reference, the root source rpm is 27MB [2]. Now, I don't know if we have a poli