Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-13 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Wednesday, 10 October 2018 21.34.47 WEST David Timms wrote: > Given Fedora runs on community power, have you tried rebuilding the > packages that interest you under f29 to see/fix any problems that arise ? Yes. As long as the time that I available allows. > You can also use the web tools to se

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 06:40:38PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > KP> That policy has been cancelled. Since the upgrade tools started > KP> doing basically "dnf distrosync (--allowerasing)" for upgrades, the > KP> upgrade path between distros stopped being a major issue and the > KP> policy h

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:57:20PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > We still have tons of references to Fedora Extras in our infra too > (just look at most of our tracker bug labels!). > I wonder if we now have more people in Fedora that came after the > Core/Extras merge than before it...? Yes, I think

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 7:41 PM Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > > "KP" == Kamil Paral writes: > > KP> That policy has been cancelled. Since the upgrade tools started > KP> doing basically "dnf distrosync (--allowerasing)" for upgrades, the > KP> upgrade path between distros stopped being a ma

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "KP" == Kamil Paral writes: KP> That policy has been cancelled. Since the upgrade tools started KP> doing basically "dnf distrosync (--allowerasing)" for upgrades, the KP> upgrade path between distros stopped being a major issue and the KP> policy has been dropped. If this is true then it'

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread David Timms
On 11/10/18 01:50, José Abílio Matos wrote: Even so the problem described seems to be related with packages that were not build for F29 by mistake (probably around the time that F29 was branched from rawhide August 14). If the same nvr exists in F28 and rawhide it is difficult to come with a reas

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Kamil Paral
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:33 PM Germano Massullo wrote: > Il giorno mer 10 ott 2018 alle ore 15:46 Kamil Paral > ha scritto: > > That policy has been cancelled. Since the upgrade tools started doing > basically "dnf distrosync (--allowerasing)" for upgrades, the upgrade path > between distros st

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Wednesday, 10 October 2018 14.45.22 WEST Kamil Paral wrote: > That policy has been cancelled. Since the upgrade tools started doing > basically "dnf distrosync (--allowerasing)" for upgrades, the upgrade path > between distros stopped being a major issue and the policy has been > dropped. Even

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Germano Massullo
Il giorno mer 10 ott 2018 alle ore 15:46 Kamil Paral ha scritto: > That policy has been cancelled. Since the upgrade tools started doing > basically "dnf distrosync (--allowerasing)" for upgrades, the upgrade path > between distros stopped being a major issue and the policy has been dropped. Do

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Kamil Paral
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:59 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > I haven't been able to find the documentation for this, but I seem to > remember that package versions should always be higher in newer fedora > releases (so there are no downgrades when upgrading from N to N+1). Is > this what is referred

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Anderson, Charles R
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 03:10:23PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 2:57 PM Michal Konečný wrote: > > > > Shouldn't this be caused by F29 final freeze? > > Not necessarily. The freeze went into effect only yesterday, so it's > not that (yet). > > The specific packages I li

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 2:57 PM Michal Konečný wrote: > > Shouldn't this be caused by F29 final freeze? Not necessarily. The freeze went into effect only yesterday, so it's not that (yet). The specific packages I listed don't have newer versions available, even in f29-updates-testing. As I said,

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Michal Konečný
Shouldn't this be caused by F29 final freeze? On 10.10.2018 13:57, Fabio Valentini wrote: Hi all, I tried upgrading my system to f29, and I noticed some packages that would have been downgraded. Upon further investigation, their maintainers seem to have forgotten (or missed) to build and/or sub

Re: package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Germano Massullo
Il giorno mer 10 ott 2018 alle ore 13:58 Fabio Valentini ha scritto: > I seem to > remember that package versions should always be higher in newer fedora > releases (so there are no downgrades when upgrading from N to N+1). Is > this what is referred to as a "broken upgrade path"? Exactly ___

package downgrades from f28 to f29

2018-10-10 Thread Fabio Valentini
Hi all, I tried upgrading my system to f29, and I noticed some packages that would have been downgraded. Upon further investigation, their maintainers seem to have forgotten (or missed) to build and/or submit updates for these packages to fedora 29 - so, for example, the newer version is only avai