Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:35:22 -0500 Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Wed, 2015-02-25 at 14:01 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > This is an opportunity for community members for whom i686 is a > > > > passion to join the team to participate in the bug

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-26 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:40 AM, drago01 wrote: >> >> i686 has nothing to do with ARM. So when someone says "i686" he/she >> means "32bit x86". > > > > Well yes -- that's what *I* take it to mean -- I just wanted to make sure > that's

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-26 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:40 AM, drago01 wrote: > i686 has nothing to do with ARM. So when someone says "i686" he/she > means "32bit x86". > Well yes -- that's what *I* take it to mean -- I just wanted to make sure that's what everyone else took it to mean as well. I just wanted to make sure t

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-26 Thread drago01
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Stephen Gallagher > wrote: >> >> we should strongly consider demoting i686 to secondary architecture >> for installation media at the Fedora 23 branch point (about six months >> from now). > > > Is this i

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-26 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > we should strongly consider demoting i686 to secondary architecture > for installation media at the Fedora 23 branch point (about six months > from now). > Is this intended only for 32-bit kernels on x86-based processors, or for other 3

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 08:15:51 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: This is an opportunity for community members for whom i686 is a passion to join the team to participate in the bugfixing required. We previously called out the need for assistance[2], but had no substantial response. We hope that being

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, 2015-02-25 at 14:01 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > This is an opportunity for community members for whom i686 is a > > > passion to join the team to participate in the bugfixing > > > required. We previously called out the need for assistance[2], > > > but had no substantial response

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Peter Robinson
> i686 Kernel SIG steps up and agrees to handle bugs on that platform Interesting so you are saying that the kernel sub community is effectively only x86_64 If you are going down that road you better ask for every kernel SIG to emerge or step up in

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/25/2015 02:15 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: i686 Kernel SIG steps up and agrees to handle bugs on that platform Interesting so you are saying that the kernel sub community is effectively only x86_64 If you are going down that road you

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: i686 Kernel SIG steps up and agrees to handle bugs on that platform >>> >>> >>> Interesting so you are saying that the kernel sub community is effectively >>> only x86_64 >>> >>> I

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> i686 Kernel SIG steps up and agrees to handle bugs on that platform >> >> >> Interesting so you are saying that the kernel sub community is effectively >> only x86_64 >> >> If you are going down that road you better ask for every kernel S

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Peter Robinson
>> i686 Kernel SIG steps up and agrees to handle bugs on that platform > > > Interesting so you are saying that the kernel sub community is effectively > only x86_64 > > If you are going down that road you better ask for every kernel SIG > to emerge or step up in the process. > > Where does ARM fi

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/25/2015 01:50 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: i686 Kernel SIG steps up and agrees to handle bugs on that platform Interesting so you are saying that the kernel sub community is effectively only x86_64 If you are going down that road you better ask for every kernel SIG to emerge or step

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Peter Robinson
>> This is an opportunity for community members for whom i686 is a >> passion to join the team to participate in the bugfixing required. >> We previously called out the need for assistance[2], but had no >> substantial response. We hope that being transparent about our >> priorities will prompt int

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, 2015-02-25 at 08:15 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > This is an opportunity for community members for whom i686 is a > passion to join the team to participate in the bugfixing required. > We previously called out the need for assistance[2], but had no > substantial response. We hope that bein

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, 2015-02-25 at 14:30 +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Josh Boyer < > jwbo...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > Hello Fellow Contributors! > > > > [...] > > It's possible down the road that, if there is no community > > interest in i686, the project might look at other o

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:30 AM, drago01 wrote: > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> Hello Fellow Contributors! >> >> [...] >> It's possible down the road that, if there is no community interest in >> i686, the project might look at other options such as making i686 a >> second

Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread drago01
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > Hello Fellow Contributors! > > [...] > It's possible down the road that, if there is no community interest in > i686, the project might look at other options such as making i686 a > secondary architecture. This is not because we want to drive aw

i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Josh Boyer
Hello Fellow Contributors! Our kernel team has been adrift in bugs roughly forever. The time we spend on triage is time we don't get to spend fixing substantial bugs on hardware lots of people are using, especially new/emergent hardware. We have spoken previously about the difficulty of kernel bug