Re: User session printing

2012-03-10 Thread Tim Waugh
On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 08:21 -0900, Jef Spaleta wrote: > Back to the use case of a primarily single user laptop touching > multiple networks on a daily basis. For that situation is it expected > that the default print server will still be the laptop's own cup > server for networked printers? Netwo

Re: User session printing

2012-03-09 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:46 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: > Yes, exactly, and that is what I'm suggesting.  For printing entirely in > the user session it is a case of using an alternative to using CUPS > running on the local machine, so that means: > > a) no filters or drivers; the job document is the PD

Re: User session printing

2012-03-09 Thread Tim Waugh
On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 09:52 -0900, Jef Spaleta wrote: > 2012/3/8 Miloslav Trmač : > > The lazy answer to both is "fail, or not, the same way as cups > > currently fails, or not" (in fact, could the session printing service > > simply be cups that treats the system instance as another remote > > ser

Re: User session printing

2012-03-08 Thread Jef Spaleta
2012/3/8 Miloslav Trmač : > Right... I just wanted to make sure that any potential work on user > session printing is not discouraged by adding requirements that are > not currently satisfied with the system daemon. Of course. That wasn't meant as stop energy. If those situations

Re: User session printing

2012-03-08 Thread Miloslav Trmač
nce as another remote >> server?). > > If we were looking for the lazy answer, we'd just not bother with queing at > all. Right... I just wanted to make sure that any potential work on user session printing is not discouraged by adding requirements that are not currently sa

Re: User session printing

2012-03-08 Thread Jef Spaleta
2012/3/8 Miloslav Trmač : > The lazy answer to both is "fail, or not, the same way as cups > currently fails, or not" (in fact, could the session printing service > simply be cups that treats the system instance as another remote > server?). If we were looking for the lazy answer, we'd just not bo

Re: User session printing

2012-03-08 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Jef Spaleta wrote: > 1) What if I've hopped networks since then and the print job that was > que'd was on a printer that was only visible on the original network? > > 2) What if I've hopped networks and the old network and the new > network have a printer at the sam

Re: User session printing

2012-03-08 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Tim Waugh (twa...@redhat.com) said: >> For a plain network printer, where the printer might not be able to >> accept the job while it's busy processing others, you might have to >> queue the job and retry it later.  So if you are doing that

Re: User session printing

2012-03-08 Thread Tim Waugh
On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 12:02 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Tim Waugh (twa...@redhat.com) said: > > For things like cloud printing, where the print server is a hosted > > service somewhere out in the Internet, I think the applications should > > be talking directly to it (via the print dialog). >

Re: User session printing

2012-03-07 Thread Tim Waugh
Can't we just get the policy right so that users can add queues? Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: User session printing

2012-03-06 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 6 mars 2012 14:53, Miloslav Trmač a écrit : > This requires: > * A network printer > * ... that has a 300page paper tray, so it is clearly an industrial one ̌1. The standard paper tray for even the smallest laser is usually 250 pages, they are dirt cheap and a second paper tray is not exp

Re: User session printing

2012-03-06 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Nils Philippsen wrote: > On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 12:02 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> Tim Waugh (twa...@redhat.com) said: >> > For things like cloud printing, where the print server is a hosted >> > service somewhere out in the Internet, I think the applications sho

Re: User session printing

2012-03-06 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 12:02 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Tim Waugh (twa...@redhat.com) said: > > For things like cloud printing, where the print server is a hosted > > service somewhere out in the Internet, I think the applications should > > be talking directly to it (via the print dialog). >

Re: User session printing

2012-03-05 Thread Bill Nottingham
Tim Waugh (twa...@redhat.com) said: > For things like cloud printing, where the print server is a hosted > service somewhere out in the Internet, I think the applications should > be talking directly to it (via the print dialog). > > For a plain network printer, where the printer might not be abl

User session printing

2012-03-05 Thread Tim Waugh
(changing the subject line since this is a bit different from the original topic) On Sun, 2012-03-04 at 00:22 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > Another way to look at this issue is - if printers were maintained > per-user (per-user, unprivileged cups daemon, per-user configuration, > per-user print q