Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-15 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 11:50:54AM -0500, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > Dne 7.1.2015 v 21:14 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): > > > * #1379 F22 System Wide Change: Change xorg input stack to use libinput > > > - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibinputForXorg (sgallagh, > > > 19:51:28) > > >

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-14 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > - Original Message - > >> On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 15:58 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> > The Fedora 21 mass rebuild took about 40 hours. ;) > >> > >> BTW, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Mass_

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-14 Thread Vít Ondruch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 14.1.2015 v 15:53 Dennis Gilmore napsal(a): > On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 10:48:16 +0100 > Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > Dne 14.1.2015 v 00:24 Dennis Gilmore napsal(a): > >> On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:58:5

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-14 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 10:48:16 +0100 Vít Ondruch wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dne 14.1.2015 v 00:24 Dennis Gilmore napsal(a): > > On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:58:51 -0700 > > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 13 Jan 20

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > - Original Message - >> On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 15:58 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> > The Fedora 21 mass rebuild took about 40 hours. ;) >> >> BTW, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Mass_Rebuild is empty. >> What are the goals o

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 01:53:02 -0600 Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 15:58 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > The Fedora 21 mass rebuild took about 40 hours. ;) > > BTW, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Mass_Rebuild is empty. > What are the goals of a mass rebuild now, given th

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-14 Thread Vít Ondruch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 14.1.2015 v 00:24 Dennis Gilmore napsal(a): > On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:58:51 -0700 > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:50:06 -0700 > > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > >> You forgot "too many packages?" There are 15842 packages in Fed

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-14 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 15:58 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > The Fedora 21 mass rebuild took about 40 hours. ;) > > BTW, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Mass_Rebuild is empty. > What are the goals of a mass rebuild now, given that we just had one > before F21 B

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-13 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 15:58 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > The Fedora 21 mass rebuild took about 40 hours. ;) BTW, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Mass_Rebuild is empty. What are the goals of a mass rebuild now, given that we just had one before F21 Beta? > That's really not the reason for

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Kevin Fenzi said: > So, while the mass rebuild itself is less than 2 days, it takes a while > to stablize things after that. If we branched right after the mass > rebuild we would have to then stablize both rawhide and f22. One other thing that takes time (as a former mirror ad

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-13 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:58:51 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:50:06 -0700 > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > You forgot "too many packages?" There are 15842 packages in Fedora > > 21 and 16230 in Rawhide. That is a lot of packages

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:50:06 -0700 Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > You forgot "too many packages?" There are 15842 packages in Fedora 21 > and 16230 in Rawhide. That is a lot of packages that have to be > rebuilt possibly multiple times due to FTBFS, multiple architectures, > etc. > > 2.5 weeks is

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 13 January 2015 at 15:39, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:24:53PM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > > > The reason for "tentative" was mostly so we could get feedback > > > > > from rel-eng on whether this is actually feasible. > > It is not even close to feasible. > [...]

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-13 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:24:53PM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > > The reason for "tentative" was mostly so we could get feedback > > > > from rel-eng on whether this is actually feasible. > It is not even close to feasible. [...] > It is still not reasonable to get everything done in that per

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-13 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 08 Jan 2015 11:08:30 -0500 Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 15:31 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 8.1.2015 v 15:03 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 10:40 +0100, Vít Ondruch

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-13 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 15:14:03 -0500 Stephen Gallagher wrote: > * #1349 Fedora 22 scheduling strategy (and beyond) (sgallagh, > 18:41:13) > * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/22/Schedule > (mattdm, 18:43:55) > * change submission dead

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-08 Thread Miloslav Trmač
> Dne 7.1.2015 v 21:14 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): > > * #1379 F22 System Wide Change: Change xorg input stack to use libinput > > - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibinputForXorg (sgallagh, > > 19:51:28) > > * AGREED: Approved with two caveats: 1) Both GNOME and KDE must be > >

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-08 Thread Vít Ondruch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 8.1.2015 v 17:08 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): > > > > On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 15:31 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Dne 8.1.2015 v 15:03 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 10:40 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 7.1.201

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-08 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 15:31 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 8.1.2015 v 15:03 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 10:40 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> Dne 7.1.2015 v 21:14 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): > >>> > >>> * Tentative date for side-tag merge is 2015-01-28

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-08 Thread Vít Ondruch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 8.1.2015 v 15:03 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): > > > > On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 10:40 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Dne 7.1.2015 v 21:14 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): >>> >>> * Tentative date for side-tag merge is 2015-01-28 (sgallagh, >>> 19:09:

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-08 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 10:40 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 7.1.2015 v 21:14 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): > > > > * Tentative date for side-tag merge is 2015-01-28 (sgallagh, > > 19:09:55) > > > > What does it mean actually? Does it mean that if I plan to do rebuild of > Ruby packages in

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-08 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, Dne 7.1.2015 v 21:14 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): > * #1379 F22 System Wide Change: Change xorg input stack to use libinput > - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibinputForXorg (sgallagh, > 19:51:28) > * AGREED: Approved with two caveats: 1) Both GNOME and KDE must be > upd

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-08 Thread Vít Ondruch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 7.1.2015 v 21:14 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): > > * Tentative date for side-tag merge is 2015-01-28 (sgallagh, > 19:09:55) > What does it mean actually? Does it mean that if I plan to do rebuild of Ruby packages in side-tag, I am supposed

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-07 Thread Stephen Gallagher
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2015-01-07) === Meeting started by sgallagh at 18:01:22 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-07/fesco.2015-01-07-18.01.log.html . Meeting summary -