On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 1:31 AM Sandro wrote:
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> On 27-01-2023 00:15, Sandro wrote:
> >> I'm not sure I can commit to maintaining these myself, though. Let me
> >> know if you're interested in helping out.
> > Yes, orjson has been mentioned by @atim and @thunderbirdtr, the
> > co-maintainers, in
On 27-01-2023 00:15, Sandro wrote:
I'm not sure I can commit to maintaining these myself, though. Let me
know if you're interested in helping out.
Yes, orjson has been mentioned by @atim and @thunderbirdtr, the
co-maintainers, in the PR. If that becomes available there might be some
progress to
On 2/8/23 08:41, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> (*) I know this term ("lowest common denominator") is mathematically
> nonsense. There is only a least/lowest common multiple and a greatest common
> denominator in mathematics. :-)
I mean there *is* a lowest common denominator: 1 :)
--
Sincerely
Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> Looking at Flatpaks with both my upstream author hat and distro maintainer
> hat, the main advantages I see is not the isolation. It is that they have
> the potential to eliminate the massive amount of duplicated work between
> every distro re-packaging the same app, and
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 06:01:17PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
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> Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch wrote:
> > > I am not user of Bottles so I won't complain about this particular case,
> > > but the push towards (upstream) Flatpaks is unf
On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 5:06 AM Matthew Miller wrote:
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> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 10:00:22AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > No, that's the promise of Fedora Flatpaks, which is an effort with a
> > distinct identity and philosophy (but which is, uh, not being its best
> > possible self so far, I
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 10:00:22AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> No, that's the promise of Fedora Flatpaks, which is an effort with a
> distinct identity and philosophy (but which is, uh, not being its best
> possible self so far, I think everyone would agree). It's not the
Joining this discussi
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 12:15 AM Sandro wrote:
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> Having read all the responses, I'm more inclined to head down the road
> of orphanage, giving other people a chance to adopt the package. Due to
> my limited knowledge of (packaging) Rust, I don't feel I'm the right
> person to be main admin for B
Well, well, well. What a surprise. I'd never thought getting this amount
of response.
Let me try to answer some questions that came up as best as I can. I
will not go into the discussion of RPM vs. Flatpak. That should probably
be carried on in a thread of its own. Suffice to say that my knowl
I’ve been wanting to package python-orjson specifically, and to get up to speed
on Rust packaging in general. I would be happy to co-maintain python-orjson and
its dependencies. It’s a weak dependency for python-fastapi, and python-cattrs
would like to have it for some integration tests.
– Ben
On Tue Jan 24, 2023 at 22:44 +0100, Sandro wrote:
> Development of Bottles is moving fast and we have been struggling to
> keep up with upstream releases, especially since the introduction of
> Rust components.
What (rust) dependencies are missing? Is it just python-orjson?
I worked on packagin
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 12:01 PM Adam Williamson
wrote:
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> On Thu, 2023-01-26 at 14:55 +0100, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> > Robert Marcano via devel píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 09:00 -0400:
> > > On 1/26/23 8:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> > > > Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100:
> > > >
On Thu, 2023-01-26 at 15:49 +, Patrick Griffis via devel wrote:
> > IMHO, retiring a Fedora package in favor of an upstream binary of
> > whatever
> > kind (Flatpak, Snap, AppImage, RPM, binary tarball, whatever) is a
> > major
> > disservice to Fedora users and defeats the whole point of hav
On Thu, 2023-01-26 at 14:55 +0100, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> Robert Marcano via devel píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 09:00 -0400:
> > On 1/26/23 8:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> > > Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100:
> > > >
> > > > Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
> > > > > On
On Thu, Jan 26 2023 at 03:49:55 PM -, Patrick Griffis via devel
wrote:
How is an orphan package a good service to users? It will just become
outdated and degrade over time.
Either (a) somebody else will take the package after it has been
orphaned, or else (b) the package will be retired a
Dne 26. 01. 23 v 16:07 Jiri Eischmann napsal(a):
Vít Ondruch píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 15:37 +0100:
Dne 26. 01. 23 v 14:55 Jiri Eischmann napsal(a):
Robert Marcano via devel píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 09:00 -0400:
On 1/26/23 8:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18
> IMHO, retiring a Fedora package in favor of an upstream binary of whatever
> kind (Flatpak, Snap, AppImage, RPM, binary tarball, whatever) is a major
> disservice to Fedora users and defeats the whole point of having a
> distribution to begin with.
How is an orphan package a good service to u
Vít Ondruch píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 15:37 +0100:
>
> Dne 26. 01. 23 v 14:55 Jiri Eischmann napsal(a):
> > Robert Marcano via devel píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 09:00 -0400:
> > > On 1/26/23 8:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> > > > Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100:
> > > > > Dne 25. 01.
Maybe we can start by filtering out the most outrageous applications:
anything that uses --filesystem=home, --filesystem=host, or unfiltered
session bus access. That still leaves plenty of possible sandbox holes,
but it's better than nothing.
We could do this just in GNOME Software and KDE D
On Thu, Jan 26 2023 at 09:23:35 AM -0500, Neal Gompa
wrote:
But we know that people don't read those. We also know that ISVs
cannot generally be trusted with regards to the permissions they set
for their own apps. This is literally why Android and iOS changed
their model. If you want to encourag
Dne 26. 01. 23 v 14:55 Jiri Eischmann napsal(a):
Robert Marcano via devel píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 09:00 -0400:
On 1/26/23 8:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100:
Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 8:25 AM Jiri Eischmann wrote:
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> Neal Gompa píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 07:51 -0500:
> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 7:43 AM Jiri Eischmann
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100:
> > > >
> > > > Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
> > >
On 26/01/2023 13:42, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
I maintain both packages in Fedora and flatpaks on Flathub, so I can
compare. The review to get an app to Flathub was as thorough as Fedora
package review. In some ways even stricter. It's not like "it builds,
it runs, you're good to go". They care about
Robert Marcano via devel píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 09:00 -0400:
> On 1/26/23 8:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> > Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100:
> > >
> > > Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
> > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> >
Neal Gompa píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 07:51 -0500:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 7:43 AM Jiri Eischmann
> wrote:
> >
> > Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100:
> > >
> > > Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
> > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch
> > > >
> > > > wrote
On 1/26/23 8:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100:
Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch
wrote:
I am not user of Bottles so I won't complain about this
particular case,
but the push towards (upstream)
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 7:43 AM Jiri Eischmann wrote:
>
> Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100:
> >
> > Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
> > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch
> > > wrote:
> > > > I am not user of Bottles so I won't complain about this
> > > > p
Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100:
>
> Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch
> > wrote:
> > > I am not user of Bottles so I won't complain about this
> > > particular case,
> > > but the push towards (upstream) Flatpaks is unfo
Adam Williamson wrote:
> OTOH, it's not reasonable to dictate to the person maintaining a Fedora
> package whether they should think that's a reasonable use of their time
> or not. The current maintainers of Bottles decided they trust the
> upstream developers to distribute their software 'properly
On Wed, 2023-01-25 at 17:42 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 06:01:17PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> >
> > Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
> > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch wrote:
> > > > I am not user of Bottles so I won't complain about this
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 06:01:17PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>
> Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
> >On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch wrote:
> >>I am not user of Bottles so I won't complain about this particular case,
> >>but the push towards (upstream) Flatpaks is unfortun
Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch wrote:
I am not user of Bottles so I won't complain about this particular case,
but the push towards (upstream) Flatpaks is unfortunate :/
Can you elaborate on why you feel that way?
I don't trust upst
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch wrote:
>
> I am not user of Bottles so I won't complain about this particular case,
> but the push towards (upstream) Flatpaks is unfortunate :/
Can you elaborate on why you feel that way?
josh
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On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 12:38 PM Pete Walter wrote:
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> I am not happy about dropping Fedora packages in favor of upstream Flatpaks
> either.
>
> Can you assign the package to me instead of retiring it? I can get it updated
> so we can keep it in Fedora.
It looks like Bottles itself doesn't con
Seems as bad practice to drop packages by upstream request.
ср, 25 янв. 2023 г. в 14:38, Pete Walter :
>
> I am not happy about dropping Fedora packages in favor of upstream Flatpaks
> either.
>
> Can you assign the package to me instead of retiring it? I can get it updated
> so we can keep it i
I am not happy about dropping Fedora packages in favor of upstream Flatpaks either. Can you assign the package to me instead of retiring it? I can get it updated so we can keep it in Fedora. Pete 25.01.2023, 10:56, "Vít Ondruch" :I am not user of Bottles so I won't complain about this particular ca
I am not user of Bottles so I won't complain about this particular case,
but the push towards (upstream) Flatpaks is unfortunate :/
Vít
Dne 24. 01. 23 v 22:44 Sandro napsal(a):
Hi,
Development of Bottles is moving fast and we have been struggling to
keep up with upstream releases, especial
Hi,
Development of Bottles is moving fast and we have been struggling to
keep up with upstream releases, especially since the introduction of
Rust components.
Upstream has approached the maintainers [1,2] and asked us to retire the
package in favor of the Flatpak packages provided by upstrea
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