Well, well, well. What a surprise. I'd never thought getting this amount
of response.
Let me try to answer some questions that came up as best as I can. I
will not go into the discussion of RPM vs. Flatpak. That should probably
be carried on in a thread of its own. Suffice to say that my knowledge
of Flatpak as well as Rust (packaging) is limited.
What I didn't include in my announcement is the fact I only recently
picked up Bottles when it was last orphaned. Seeing that no-one else
joined the group of maintainers then, I'd bet Bottles would be retired
by now.
Pete Walter wrote:
Can you assign the package to me instead of retiring it? I can get it updated so
we can keep it in Fedora.
There's an open PR [1] for getting the package updated to 2022.10.14.1.
Meanwhile the version scheme has been changed and the latest release is
now 50.2 - six releases onward.
PRs are welcome. I'd be willing to hand the package to you. But I'd like
to actually hear from the co-maintainers, who have been maintaining the
package de facto before I adopted it.
Fabio Valentini wrote:
It looks like Bottles itself doesn't contain any Rust code, so I
assume some of its Python dependencies now build native modules that
are implemented in Rust?
...
If the projects use maturin as their build backend, some more work is
involved, since packaging maturin itself for Fedora will require
significant investment of time and resources (that I am currently
unable to provide alone).
Maxwell G via devel wrote:
What (rust) dependencies are missing? Is it just python-orjson?
...
I'm not sure I can commit to maintaining these myself, though. Let me
know if you're interested in helping out.
Yes, orjson has been mentioned by @atim and @thunderbirdtr, the
co-maintainers, in the PR. If that becomes available there might be some
progress to be made in keeping up with upstream.
Albeit, working with upstream appears to have been a mixed bag (reading
between the lines in the comments). But since I have not been
experiencing this first hand, I'd prefer the co-maintainers to elaborate.
Let me finish with some thoughts on how to go forward.
I thought about retiring the package, because we were unable to get an
update out the door due to the dependency on python-orjson and because
the package had been orphaned before.
So, when I received the request from upstream, it seemed like a
reasonable solution to get people to use the latest release. Users I had
contact with, didn't mind me referring them to the Flathub release.
Having read all the responses, I'm more inclined to head down the road
of orphanage, giving other people a chance to adopt the package. Due to
my limited knowledge of (packaging) Rust, I don't feel I'm the right
person to be main admin for Bottles. I didn't know about the Rust
dependency when I adopted it, nor did I pay attention to the fact that
there were still co-maintainers listed, whom I could have asked before
adopting Bottles.
I'll ponder my options a little longer and hope the co-maintainers will
shed their light on the state of affairs.
Cheers,
Sandro
[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/bottles/pull-request/1
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