Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Josh Boyer >> wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: On 2015-08-15, Neal Gompa wrote: > Out of all of those sugges

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-27 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: >>> On 2015-08-15, Neal Gompa wrote: Out of all of those suggestions, the only one that might have any = real value woul

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-27 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: >> On 2015-08-15, Neal Gompa wrote: >>> Out of all of those suggestions, the only one that might have any >>> = real value would be renaming "kernel" to "linux", but only if we >>> were intere

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-26 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2015-08-15, Neal Gompa wrote: >> Out of all of those suggestions, the only one that might have any >> = real value would be renaming "kernel" to "linux", but only if we >> were interested in introducing other FOSS kernels as options into the

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-26 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2015-08-15, Neal Gompa wrote: > Out of all of those suggestions, the only one that might have any > = real value would be renaming "kernel" to "linux", but only if we > were interested in introducing other FOSS kernels as options into the > distribution. At this time, I seriously doubt anyone w

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-16 Thread Josh Boyer
On Aug 16, 2015 12:50 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: > > > > Am 16.08.2015 um 18:14 schrieb Roberto Ragusa: >> >> On 08/16/2015 10:55 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> >>> no the architecture was created by Intel >>> >>> AMD added the 64bit capabilities in a compatible way other than Intel itself tried

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.08.2015 um 18:14 schrieb Roberto Ragusa: On 08/16/2015 10:55 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: no the architecture was created by Intel AMD added the 64bit capabilities in a compatible way other than Intel itself tried with Itanium which was not able to run i686 instructions and later Intel w

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-16 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 08/16/2015 10:55 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > no the architecture was created by Intel > > AMD added the 64bit capabilities in a compatible way other than Intel itself > tried with Itanium which was not able to run i686 instructions and later > Intel was forced to license the AMD extensions

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-16 Thread Felix Miata
Roberto Ragusa composed on 2015-08-16 10:47 (UTC+0200): > dropping an underscore is nice too That would be wonderful. Underscore is an contortive nuisance trying to touch type top row with one pinkie while shifting with other pinkie, not to mention even to see it when font is small or contrast lo

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.08.2015 um 10:55 schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 16.08.2015 um 10:47 schrieb Roberto Ragusa: On 08/14/2015 02:38 PM, Wei-Lun Chao wrote: Hi, Is there already any discussion about: rename arch name "noarch" to "all" rename arch name "x86_64" to "amd64" rename package name "kernel-PAE" to "k

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.08.2015 um 10:47 schrieb Roberto Ragusa: On 08/14/2015 02:38 PM, Wei-Lun Chao wrote: Hi, Is there already any discussion about: rename arch name "noarch" to "all" rename arch name "x86_64" to "amd64" rename package name "kernel-PAE" to "kernel" and even rename package name "kernel" to "

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-16 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 08/14/2015 02:38 PM, Wei-Lun Chao wrote: > Hi, > > Is there already any discussion about: > rename arch name "noarch" to "all" > rename arch name "x86_64" to "amd64" > rename package name "kernel-PAE" to "kernel" > and even rename package name "kernel" to "linux" IMHO kernel-PAE -> kernel is

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-15 Thread Christopher Meng
On 8/16/15, Josh Boyer wrote: > Which is clearly labeled as a joke. Nobody is seriously proposing this. Of course I'm not a fool ;) -- Yours sincerely, Christopher Meng http://awk.io -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fe

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Christopher Meng wrote: > On 8/16/15, Neal Gompa wrote: >> To be fair, Debian's use of "linux" over "kernel" is because they actually >> support another kernel (the FreeBSD kernel). If the Fedora Project wanted >> to add FreeBSD kernel support (which, as far as I

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-15 Thread Christopher Meng
On 8/16/15, Neal Gompa wrote: > ​To be fair, Debian's use of "linux" over "kernel" is because they actually > support another kernel (the FreeBSD kernel). If the Fedora Project wanted > to add FreeBSD kernel support (which, as far as I know, we don't), then we > would have to talk about how to dea

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-15 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sáb, 2015-08-15 at 15:33 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Sérgio Basto > wrote: > > On Sáb, 2015-08-15 at 21:22 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > > On 8/14/15, Wei-Lun Chao wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Is there already any

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-15 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Sáb, 2015-08-15 at 21:22 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > > On 8/14/15, Wei-Lun Chao wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Is there already any discussion about: > > > rename arch name "noarch" to "all" > > > rename arch name "x86_64" to "amd64" >

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-15 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sáb, 2015-08-15 at 21:22 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > On 8/14/15, Wei-Lun Chao wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is there already any discussion about: > > rename arch name "noarch" to "all" > > rename arch name "x86_64" to "amd64" > > rename package name "kernel-PAE" to "kernel" > > and even rename p

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-15 Thread Christopher Meng
On 8/14/15, Wei-Lun Chao wrote: > Hi, > > Is there already any discussion about: > rename arch name "noarch" to "all" > rename arch name "x86_64" to "amd64" > rename package name "kernel-PAE" to "kernel" > and even rename package name "kernel" to "linux" noarch doesn't mean all, and what's 'all'

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Petr Stodulka wrote: > > > On 14.8.2015 14:38, Wei-Lun Chao wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Is there already any discussion about: >> rename arch name "noarch" to "all" >> rename arch name "x86_64" to "amd64" >> rename package name "kernel-PAE" to "kernel" >> and even renam

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:33 PM, drago01 wrote: > On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Wei-Lun Chao wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Is there already any discussion about: >> rename arch name "noarch" to "all" >> rename arch name "x86_64" to "amd64" >> rename package name "kernel-PAE" to "kernel" >> and even ren

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-14 Thread drago01
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Wei-Lun Chao wrote: > Hi, > > Is there already any discussion about: > rename arch name "noarch" to "all" > rename arch name "x86_64" to "amd64" > rename package name "kernel-PAE" to "kernel" > and even rename package name "kernel" to "linux" Why? That doesn't sol

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 14 August 2015 at 06:38, Wei-Lun Chao wrote: > Hi, > > Is there already any discussion about: > rename arch name "noarch" to "all" > rename arch name "x86_64" to "amd64" > rename package name "kernel-PAE" to "kernel" > and even rename package name "kernel" to "linux" There have been discussion

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-14 Thread Petr Stodulka
On 14.8.2015 14:38, Wei-Lun Chao wrote: Hi, Is there already any discussion about: rename arch name "noarch" to "all" rename arch name "x86_64" to "amd64" rename package name "kernel-PAE" to "kernel" and even rename package name "kernel" to "linux" IMO really bad idea in all cases. Petr -- d

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.08.2015 um 14:38 schrieb Wei-Lun Chao: Is there already any discussion about why? rename arch name "noarch" to "all" benefits? rename arch name "x86_64" to "amd64" oh no - i remember a person working many years as a sysadmin downloaded the i686 CentOS image while i said "the 64