On Apr 20, 2012 5:34 PM, "Matej Cepl" wrote:
>
> On 20.4.2012 18:09, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Never. Nobody uses the code names. It's a waste of time and choosing
names like "Beefy Miracle" is a good way of making the distro look a
whole lot less professional.
>>
>>
>> Well, as fa
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 25/04/12 19:43, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>>
>> I...no, I was referring to cows. You know. The things which have four
>> legs, go moo, and dispense tasty, tasty milk.
>
>
> Ah right, we call it the fridge.
> Goes rrr every so often.
On 25/04/12 19:43, Adam Williamson wrote:
I...no, I was referring to cows. You know. The things which have four
legs, go moo, and dispense tasty, tasty milk.
Ah right, we call it the fridge.
Goes rrr every so often.
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On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 19:37 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 25/04/12 19:25, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 18:58 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
> >> On 25/04/12 17:51, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >>> which venerates the cow
> >>
> >> Ah, now Adam,
> >> As bad as she is you can't be calli
On 25/04/12 19:25, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 18:58 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 25/04/12 17:51, Adam Williamson wrote:
which venerates the cow
Ah, now Adam,
As bad as she is you can't be calling anyone a cow ;)
Er...wha?
I thought you were calling the cow a "cow".
Whic
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 18:58 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 25/04/12 17:51, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > which venerates the cow
>
> Ah, now Adam,
> As bad as she is you can't be calling anyone a cow ;)
Er...wha?
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On 25/04/12 17:51, Adam Williamson wrote:
which venerates the cow
Ah, now Adam,
As bad as she is you can't be calling anyone a cow ;)
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On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 13:59 +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 23 April 2012 14:06, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm not against release names because some people are supposed to have
> > been offended by the words 'Beefy Miracle'
>
> I don't know about offended, it just sounds silly.
Some who
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Miroslav Suchy wrote:
> On 25.4.2012 15:05, Peter Jones wrote:
>>
>> On 04/24/2012 05:14 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>>
>>> I can keep only 3-5last releases in my poor head.
>>
>>
>> Then just *don't*. F14 is the past. Let it go.
>
>
> Tell it to Mythdora which is ba
On 25.4.2012 15:05, Peter Jones wrote:
On 04/24/2012 05:14 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
I can keep only 3-5last releases in my poor head.
Then just *don't*. F14 is the past. Let it go.
Tell it to Mythdora which is based on Fedora Cambridge.
Or RaspberryPi remix which is based on Fedora Laughl
On 04/24/2012 05:14 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
I can keep only 3-5last releases in my poor head.
Then just *don't*. F14 is the past. Let it go.
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On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Kévin Raymond
wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Jeremy Sanders
> wrote:
>> Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>>
>>> It would be nice to have a third option:
>>> -Change release names to release theme.
>>>
>>> We don't really need a name (IMO), but the theme adds
Kévin Raymond wrote:
> Many Linux distributions are identified by a color.
> I would personally hate to have a purple, green or orange background…
I wouldn't use the colour as the basis of the whole theme, but use it in a
tasteful manner in highlights, etc.
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On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Jeremy Sanders
wrote:
> Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>
>> It would be nice to have a third option:
>> -Change release names to release theme.
>>
>> We don't really need a name (IMO), but the theme adds a nice touch.
>
> A colour would be a nice clear release theme.
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Jeremy Sanders
wrote:
> Amaranth -> Blue -> Celadon -> ...
>
> See e.g http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colors
>
> There shouldn't be any major internationalisation issues,
Well, two out of the three have no equivalent in Czech language. That
doesn't prevent
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> It would be nice to have a third option:
> -Change release names to release theme.
>
> We don't really need a name (IMO), but the theme adds a nice touch.
A colour would be a nice clear release theme. You could even increment the
first letter of the colour for each
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 25/04/12 03:46, Brendan Jones wrote:
>>
>> I fully agree. We need to help the design team out,
>
>
> Agree, give ideas
>
>
> Drop the name
>>
>> but lets vote on a theme
>
>
> No,
> I think it should all be left to the design them.
> (with
On 25/04/12 03:46, Brendan Jones wrote:
I fully agree. We need to help the design team out,
Agree, give ideas
Drop the name
but lets vote on a theme
No,
I think it should all be left to the design them.
(with advice from legal, if necessary)
Not in a "let them do the work", but more of a
t
On 04/20/2012 05:00 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 04/19/2012 07:04 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
This cycle, the Board is also asking contributors to let us know if we
should continue to have release names for future Fedora releases. Even
though the interface is the same, this portion is intend
My two bits:
The users don't really care what we call the release. Heck, all I go by is
the number. I use this distro rather than he others for the amount of tools
we have at the command line, and it's not a far stretch to believe that
others do as well. Some might call me a tech-geek; I love the
On 24/04/12 13:59, Ian Malone wrote:
More practically, the problem with names in Fedora is that they're
selected and voted on with little connection to anything else,
.
I think the real problem, offended people aside.
Is nobody uses the names to refer to a fedora release.
Witin @fpo lists its "
On 23 April 2012 14:06, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> I'm not against release names because some people are supposed to have
> been offended by the words 'Beefy Miracle'
I don't know about offended, it just sounds silly. Maybe it's a UK/US
thing, or that it started as a RedHat in-joke, but to this
On 04/21/2012 12:33 AM, Matej Cepl wrote:
Yes, and I wonder why Fedora users just don't it. Nobody knows why,
either we have too stupid names, or we are too geeky, or something. And
I have to admit, that although my first Debian was potato and I have
switched to Fedora just before etch (and I hav
On 04/23/2012 11:50 AM, Tomas Radej wrote:
I think numbering/naming problem is only about the target audience.
If Non-geek users tend to stick with names (Karmic Koala,
Gingerbread, Belle) and devs/powerusers prefer numbering, what's the
problem? I don't see much confusion about naming and numbe
On 23/04/12 16:50, Tomas Radej wrote:
I think numbering/naming problem is only about the target audience.
That's just it, most Fedora non-geek users, use numbering.
You see it on the mailing list(s) daily.
Rarely do you see a Fedora N by it's name.
I didn't know Jules Verne was superman'
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:01:56 +0100
Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 23/04/12 14:50, Tomas Radej wrote:
>
> >>
> >> But their numbering is crap.
> >> 12.04 ?
> >
> > April 2012
>
> My point exactly, name fits better in their scenario.
> "Ah Jules, are you on April or October,
> tweleve, I believe?"
>
>
On 23/04/12 14:50, Tomas Radej wrote:
But their numbering is crap.
12.04 ?
April 2012
My point exactly, name fits better in their scenario.
"Ah Jules, are you on April or October,
tweleve, I believe?"
Me ducks for cover.
ame from...).
I didn't know Jules Verne was superman's nemesis.
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:43:41 +0100
Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 23/04/12 14:36, Mark Bidewell wrote:
>
> >
> > I think it has as much to do with the names as anything else. Ubuntu
> > names are short and easy.
>
> But their numbering is crap.
> 12.04 ?
April 2012
> I am still not sure how we g
>
>
> I am still not sure how we got from
>
>> Superman's nemesis to hot dogs (at least I think that is where "beefy
>> miracle" came from...).
>>
>
> I didn't know Jules Verne was superman's nemesis.
>
>
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On 23/04/12 14:46, Seth Vidal wrote:
But their numbering is crap.
12.04 ?
To be fair their numbering is:
YY.MM
So 12.04 means April, 2012
-sv
But, are you going to say in converation
"Yes, I'm using Ubuntu release twelve zero four",
or "Lucid"
Does anyone know the full two words sans
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 23/04/12 14:36, Mark Bidewell wrote:
I think it has as much to do with the names as anything else. Ubuntu
names are short and easy.
But their numbering is crap.
12.04 ?
To be fair their numbering is:
YY.MM
So 12.04 means April, 2012
-sv
On 23/04/12 14:36, Mark Bidewell wrote:
I think it has as much to do with the names as anything else. Ubuntu
names are short and easy.
But their numbering is crap.
12.04 ?
Fedora names tend to be more obscure "Lucid"
or "Precise" makes more sense than "Zod" or "Beefy" (forget the fat
dis
On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 15:21 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 04/23/2012 03:06 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 09:58 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> >
> >> Why isn't adding a link to an explanation to avoid misunderstandings
> >> originating from conotations sufficient anymore?
On 23/04/12 14:21, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 04/23/2012 03:06 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 09:58 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Why isn't adding a link to an explanation to avoid misunderstandings
originating from conotations sufficient anymore? This is at least what
had been
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Matej Cepl wrote:
> On 20.4.2012 18:09, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>
>> Never. Nobody uses the code names. It's a waste of time and choosing
names like "Beefy Miracle" is a good way of making the distro look a
whole lot less professional.
>>>
>> Well, as
On 04/23/2012 03:06 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 09:58 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Why isn't adding a link to an explanation to avoid misunderstandings
originating from conotations sufficient anymore? This is at least what
had been done in the past.
'sufficient' to what p
On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 00:33 +0200, Matej Cepl wrote:
> On 20.4.2012 18:09, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> >>> Never. Nobody uses the code names. It's a waste of time and choosing
> >>> names like "Beefy Miracle" is a good way of making the distro look a
> >>> whole lot less professional.
> >
> > Well, as
On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 09:58 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Why isn't adding a link to an explanation to avoid misunderstandings
> originating from conotations sufficient anymore? This is at least what
> had been done in the past.
'sufficient' to what purpose?
I'm not against release names beca
On Apr 21, 2012, at 12:25 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 06:09:38PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> Well, as far as I can tell, many Ubuntu and Debian users prefer to
>> call their release "by name".
>
> An annoying feature of Debian. If you're not immersed in Debian
> d
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 06:09:38PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Well, as far as I can tell, many Ubuntu and Debian users prefer to
> call their release "by name".
An annoying feature of Debian. If you're not immersed in Debian
development, it just means you have to go consult the mapping betwee
On 20.4.2012 18:09, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Never. Nobody uses the code names. It's a waste of time and choosing
names like "Beefy Miracle" is a good way of making the distro look a
whole lot less professional.
Well, as far as I can tell, many Ubuntu and Debian users prefer to call
their release
drago01 wrote:
> I actually don't see a point in changing the theme in every release but well
> ...
I do not care if the theme changes every release or every decade. The
only part of the name vote that I saw beneficial was the theme that went
along with the name.
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On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 04/19/2012 07:04 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
>>
>> This cycle, the Board is also asking contributors to let us know if we
>> should continue to have release names for future Fedora releases. Even
>> though the interface is the same,
On 20 April 2012 07:34, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> Originally we considered having three questions:
>
> * keep release naming the way it is.
> * Keep release names but change the process.
> * Discard release names altogether.
I would go for the third option. I dont' find Fedora or Ubuntu names
int
On 04/20/2012 05:21 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:36:17AM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 20 April 2012 07:41, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
As for the poll -- The Board has heard a lot of people asking to remove code
names but is unsure if thats just because thats the group t
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:36:17AM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 20 April 2012 07:41, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > As for the poll -- The Board has heard a lot of people asking to remove code
> > names but is unsure if thats just because thats the group that happen to
> > subscribe to the mailin
On 04/19/2012 08:04 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
This cycle, the Board is also asking contributors to let us know if we
should continue to have release names for future Fedora releases. Even
though the interface is the same, this portion is intended to be a poll
rather than a straight up vote. T
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> It would be nice to have a third option:
> -Change release names to release theme.
>
> We don't really need a name (IMO), but the theme adds a nice touch.
How about we just pick one good theme, make sure we really make it
consistently show up EVERYWHERE (including Pl
> Seems that some people unhappy with the "Beefy Miracle" are trying
> to make sure that we won't ever had any nice and fluffy codename.
I voted against all the names that sounded like Ubuntu copy-cats.
Ubuntu names have always been (intentionally) adjective-noun, Fedora
names have always been a
On 20 April 2012 07:41, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> As for the poll -- The Board has heard a lot of people asking to remove code
> names but is unsure if thats just because thats the group that happen to
> subscribe to the mailing list in question.
When have you ever heard "I'm running Fedora Beefy
On 04/20/2012 08:34 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:00:58PM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 04/19/2012 07:04 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
This cycle, the Board is also asking contributors to let us know if we
should continue to have release names for future Fedora relea
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:34:29AM +0200, Haïkel Guémar wrote:
> Seems that some people unhappy with the "Beefy Miracle" are trying to
> make sure that we won't ever had any nice and fluffy codename.
>
Actually:
* some people are just unhappy with the release names altogether.
* some people are un
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:00:58PM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 04/19/2012 07:04 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> >This cycle, the Board is also asking contributors to let us know if we
> >should continue to have release names for future Fedora releases. Even
> >though the interface is the s
Seems that some people unhappy with the "Beefy Miracle" are trying to
make sure that we won't ever had any nice and fluffy codename.
H.
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On 04/19/2012 07:04 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
This cycle, the Board is also asking contributors to let us know if we
should continue to have release names for future Fedora releases. Even
though the interface is the same, this portion is intended to be a poll
rather than a straight up vote. Th
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