Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 19-09-18 02:09, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 17:06 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:57 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: On 9/18/18 3:23 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: But is this bugginess worth a FE to try and get -58 onto the Beta? Lots of users will install

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:58 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > By the way, can we get some clarification as to the scope of the > hidden grub menu change? I think it should be restricted to > Workstation only. And not extend to anything else, including even > Silverblue (yes it's a workstation variant

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:55 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: >> On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:45 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Adam Williamson >>> wrote: >>> > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 20:09 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:55 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > I'm not finding a criterion requiring either the key reveal feature to > work; or for the failed boot detection to work. Seems like that might > need a tweak. Yeah, possibly. Not surprising there's no criterion *yet*, as it's a new featur

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:45 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Adam Williamson >> wrote: >> > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 20:09 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > On 18-09-18 17:28, Chris Murphy wrot

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:45 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 20:09 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On 18-09-18 17:28, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewsk

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 20:09 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 18-09-18 17:28, Chris Murphy wrote: >> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >> > wrote: >> > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 08:36:32AM -0600, Chri

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 20:09 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 18-09-18 17:28, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 08:36:32AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:56 AM, Hans de

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 17:06 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:57 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > > On 9/18/18 3:23 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > But is this bugginess worth a FE to try and get -58 onto the Beta? > > > Lots of users will install the Beta and will not want to rein

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:57 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > On 9/18/18 3:23 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > But is this bugginess worth a FE to try and get -58 onto the Beta? > > Lots of users will install the Beta and will not want to reinstall. > > Seems like suboptimal behavior. > > I think it's worth

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Randy Barlow
On 9/18/18 3:23 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > But is this bugginess worth a FE to try and get -58 onto the Beta? > Lots of users will install the Beta and will not want to reinstall. > Seems like suboptimal behavior. I think it's worth a FE since this was one of the Fedora 29 changes. I think it'd be

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Ok, I've managed to reproduce this in a classic BIOS boot using VM and > then after updating grub2 to 2.02-58 and running grub2-mkinstall the > problem went away. It looks like this somehow for broken in one specific > grub2 build and then

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Andreas Tunek
Den tis 18 sep. 2018 kl 17:29 skrev Chris Murphy : > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 08:36:32AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:56 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > On 18-09-18 01:12, Chr

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 18-09-18 17:28, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 08:36:32AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:56 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 18-09-18 01:12, Chris Murphy wrote: I've got a Fedora

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 08:36:32AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:56 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > On 18-09-18 01:12, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> >> >> I've got a Fedora 29 Silverblue instal

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 08:36:32AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:56 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 18-09-18 01:12, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> > >> I've got a Fedora 29 Silverblue installation in a VM. What kind of VM is it? Zbyszek _

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:56 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 18-09-18 01:12, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> I've got a Fedora 29 Silverblue installation in a VM. First boot I see >> the GRUB menu, and after that it's hidden. And I can't figure out how >> to unhide it. Boot is failing before I get

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 18-09-18 01:12, Chris Murphy wrote: I've got a Fedora 29 Silverblue installation in a VM. First boot I see the GRUB menu, and after that it's hidden. And I can't figure out how to unhide it. Boot is failing before I get multiuser login or ssh, so extracting information to troubleshoot/bug

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-17 Thread Vít Ondruch
F8 and Esc should work. The change page [1] mentions also holding shift. It also mentions "sudo grub2-editenv - unset menu_auto_hide". But it is interesting that: 1. it does not work 2. it does not unhide itself after failed boot. Both sounds as a bugs to me. V. [1] https://fedoraproject.o