On Monday, 12 December 2016 at 20:54, Nicholas Miell wrote:
[...]
> systemd-coredump (or, rather, journald) ignores the split between system
> accounts and user accounts as configured in /etc/login.defs ("the
> authoritative definition of UID/GID space allocation", according to the
> Fedora wiki) a
On 12/05/2016 08:54 AM, Jan Kurik wrote:
= System Wide Change: Enable coredumpctl by default =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/coredumpctl
Change owner(s):
* Michael Catanzaro
Enable coredumpctl by default. Core dumps will be stored in the system
journal rather than created in the crash
On Thu, 2016-12-08 at 14:59 +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> This need to be checked:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1341829
> it should be fixed now. Should. I did not had time to test it yet.
>
> You should add it to test plan.
It is part of the test plan already; if core dump gene
Dne 6.12.2016 v 15:55 Michael Catanzaro napsal(a):
> The change page does mention that we're not disabling ABRT entirely, as
> ABRT already has the needed integration to get core dumps from systemd,
> thanks to Jakub and the other ABRT developers. We're only disabling the
> component of ABRT that p
On Tue, 2016-12-06 at 12:28 +0100, jfi...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
> Thank you. The service watching journald for coredumps saved by
> systemd-coredump already exists:
>
> http://abrt.readthedocs.io/en/latest/examples.html#getting-core-files
> -from-systemd-coredumctl
This.
The change page does
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Od: Lennart Poettering
Komu: Development discussions related to Fedora
Datum: 6. 12. 2016 11:11:48
Předmět: Re: F26 System Wide Change: Enable coredumpctl by default
"On Tue, 06.12.16 10:16, Miroslav Suchý (msu...@redhat.com) wrote:
> Dne 6.12.2
On Tue, 06.12.16 10:16, Miroslav Suchý (msu...@redhat.com) wrote:
> Dne 6.12.2016 v 09:52 Gerd Hoffmann napsal(a):
> > Hmm, isn't this as easy as abrt being able to find and analyze coredumps
> > written by coredumpctl (in addition to the coredumps written by the abrt
> > dumper)?
>
> Yes, it is
Dne 6.12.2016 v 09:52 Gerd Hoffmann napsal(a):
> Hmm, isn't this as easy as abrt being able to find and analyze coredumps
> written by coredumpctl (in addition to the coredumps written by the abrt
> dumper)?
Yes, it is quite easy. But ABRT cannot do this query every second/minute/hour.
So systemd
Hi,
> We have two technologies: ABRT and coredumpctl. Each of them have
> different purpose and none of them 100 % fit
> everybody. So instead of discussing which one should be installed by
> default, we can sit together (ABRT and systemd
> teams) and integrate it together? So users can get bene
Dne 5.12.2016 v 17:54 Jan Kurik napsal(a):
> Note that coredumpctl is intended as a developer tool, not as an
> automatic bug reporting tool nor as a replacement for ABRT.
Who is main user of Fedora? Developer (who may prefer coredumpctl) or normal
user (who may prefer bug reporting tool)?
>
>
On 12/05/2016 07:05 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
meanwhile systemd-coredump steals away my core dumps and requires
privileged operations to retrieve them.
No, it doesn't. Coredumps are accessible to the user that the program
was running under. So you can see your coredumps, and privile
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 05:58:19PM -0800, Nicholas Miell wrote:
> On 12/05/2016 05:46 PM, Nicholas Miell wrote:
> >On 12/05/2016 12:55 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >>systemd-coredump+coredumpctl give you pretty easy access to core
> >>files, they are just dumped into /var/lib/systemd/co
On 12/05/2016 05:46 PM, Nicholas Miell wrote:
On 12/05/2016 12:55 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
systemd-coredump+coredumpctl give you pretty easy access to core
files, they are just dumped into /var/lib/systemd/coredump/. The
advantage is that a) things are logged and can be easily look
On 12/05/2016 12:55 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
systemd-coredump+coredumpctl give you pretty easy access to core
files, they are just dumped into /var/lib/systemd/coredump/. The
advantage is that a) things are logged and can be easily looked up and
queried, b) you get a lot of metadata
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Jakub
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Komu: Development discussions related to Fedora
Datum: 5. 12. 2016 23:08:56
Předmět: Re: F26 System Wide Change: Enable coredumpctl by default
"
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek writes:
> You
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek writes:
> You still can restore such behaviour pretty easily. Just set the
> kernel.core_pattern sysctl.
Yup, that's what I do. Just adding my two cents on Fedora trying to
help me "be a developer" without doing what I need as a developer.
But I typically uninstall
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Datum: 5. 12. 2016 20:37:43
Předmět: Re: F26 System Wide Change: Enable coredumpctl by default
"
Jan Kurik writes:
> Note that coredumpctl is intended as a developer tool,
As a deve
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Od: Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Komu: Development discussions related to Fedora
Datum: 5. 12. 2016 21:57:12
Předmět: Re: F26 System Wide Change: Enable coredumpctl by default
"On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 02:36:13PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote:
>
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 02:36:13PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote:
>
> Jan Kurik writes:
> > Note that coredumpctl is intended as a developer tool,
>
> As a developer, I remove abrt and anything else that redirects cores
> away from my development area. It's really hard to debug a core dump if
> you c
Jan Kurik writes:
> Note that coredumpctl is intended as a developer tool,
As a developer, I remove abrt and anything else that redirects cores
away from my development area. It's really hard to debug a core dump if
you can't find the core file.
Just sayin'
On Mon, 05.12.16 19:27, Török Edwin (edwin...@etorok.eu) wrote:
> On 2016-12-05 18:54, Jan Kurik wrote:
> > = System Wide Change: Enable coredumpctl by default =
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/coredumpctl
> >
> > Change owner(s):
> > * Michael Catanzaro
> >
> > Enable coredumpctl by
On Mon, 2016-12-05 at 19:27 +0200, Török Edwin wrote:
> The description here is a bit confusing, and scary: what if I run out
> of space and I need to rm the coredumps to make room?
Sorry, that description is wrong; core dumps used to be stored in the
journal and still can be, but that's not the d
On 12/05/2016 12:27 PM, Török Edwin wrote:
The description here is a bit confusing, and scary: what if I run out of space
and I need to rm the coredumps to make room?
If the coredumps are stored in the same file as the systemd journal I'd loose
my system logs too, so it makes no sense to have t
On 2016-12-05 18:54, Jan Kurik wrote:
> = System Wide Change: Enable coredumpctl by default =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/coredumpctl
>
> Change owner(s):
> * Michael Catanzaro
>
> Enable coredumpctl by default. Core dumps will be stored in the system
> journal rather than created i
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