Gary Buhrmaster writes:
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 2:32 AM Josh Stone wrote:
>>
>> On 11/16/21 7:05 PM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
>> > Realistically, they will just stick to Fedora 36 forever and just stop
>> > updating the devices (or try updating them anyway and get no updates from
>> > the
On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 11:00 PM Adam Williamson
wrote:
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> On Sun, 2022-02-06 at 14:54 +0100, David Bold wrote:
> >
> >
> > I just tried to install Fedora on RPi, and I ended up on [1] where I
> > downloaded an image. That was unfortunately armv7 - and I needed to go
> > to [2] - which was not lin
Thank you, Peter, for coming up with this!
I have to say this is really good news to hear indeed - I have been waiting
silently for this for quite a long time.
Kudos, Jens
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On Sun, 2022-02-06 at 14:54 +0100, David Bold wrote:
>
>
> I just tried to install Fedora on RPi, and I ended up on [1] where I
> downloaded an image. That was unfortunately armv7 - and I needed to go
> to [2] - which was not linked in the descriptions [3,4]. Also the wiki
> lists first the armv7
On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 5:27 PM Dennis Gilmore wrote:
>
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 7:55 AM David Bold wrote:
> >
> > On 11/15/21 20:15, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireARMv7
> > >
> > ...
> > > == Scope ==
> > >
> > > * Proposal owners: Work with rel-eng to disab
On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 7:55 AM David Bold wrote:
>
> On 11/15/21 20:15, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireARMv7
> >
> ...
> > == Scope ==
> >
> > * Proposal owners: Work with rel-eng to disable the architecture in
> > koji, remove all the various pungi pieces and c
On 11/15/21 20:15, Ben Cotton wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireARMv7
>
...
> == Scope ==
>
> * Proposal owners: Work with rel-eng to disable the architecture in
> koji, remove all the various pungi pieces and clean up any other
> release detritus.
>
> * Other developers: No
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 04:04:25PM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 11:11 AM Florian Weimer wrote:
> >
> > * Peter Robinson:
> >
> > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 10:43 AM Florian Weimer
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> * Ben Cotton:
> > >>
> > >> > == Detailed Description ==
> > >>
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 11:11 AM Florian Weimer wrote:
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> * Peter Robinson:
>
> > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 10:43 AM Florian Weimer wrote:
> >>
> >> * Ben Cotton:
> >>
> >> > == Detailed Description ==
> >> >
> >> > The ARMv7 arm architecture was the second variant of the arm
> >> > architecture t
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:10 PM Peter Boy wrote:
>
>
>
> > Am 16.11.2021 um 20:37 schrieb Miro Hrončok :
> >
> > On 15. 11. 21 20:15, Ben Cotton wrote:
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireARMv7
> >> == Owner ==
> >> * Name: [[User:pbrobinson| Peter Robinson]]
> >> * Email:
> >
> > M
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 11:43:06AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> And we recently lost Systemtap probes on Arm, with no clear path
> towards restoring them.
Is this a reference to this issue or another one?
https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=103395
Rich.
--
Richard Jones, Virtualizat
* Peter Robinson:
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 10:43 AM Florian Weimer wrote:
>>
>> * Ben Cotton:
>>
>> > == Detailed Description ==
>> >
>> > The ARMv7 arm architecture was the second variant of the arm
>> > architecture that Fedora has supported, the first was ARMv5, the third
>> > is aarch64. The
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 10:43 AM Florian Weimer wrote:
>
> * Ben Cotton:
>
> > == Detailed Description ==
> >
> > The ARMv7 arm architecture was the second variant of the arm
> > architecture that Fedora has supported, the first was ARMv5, the third
> > is aarch64. The proposal is to retire ARMv7
* Ben Cotton:
> == Detailed Description ==
>
> The ARMv7 arm architecture was the second variant of the arm
> architecture that Fedora has supported, the first was ARMv5, the third
> is aarch64. The proposal is to retire ARMv7 as part of the Fedora 37
> release. This will allow ARMv7/armhfp to be
I still like Seth's system-autodeath, but it's been retired for a while
now.
From the summary:
system-autodeath is a cron job that runs daily, checking the current
time versus a configured death date for the machine. Within one week
of this date the system will emit log notices to sys
> Gary Buhrmaster writes:
> I have occasionally conjectured that there should be a "last gasp"
> version of some core package released into updates for a version going
> unsupported that drops a file into /etc/motd.d that is, essentially:
I've thought about it as well, but I still wonder goo
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 2:32 AM Josh Stone wrote:
>
> On 11/16/21 7:05 PM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > Realistically, they will just stick to Fedora 36 forever and just stop
> > updating the devices (or try updating them anyway and get no updates from
> > the server, obviously).
> >
> > Stic
On 11/16/21 7:05 PM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Realistically, they will just stick to Fedora 36 forever and just stop
> updating the devices (or try updating them anyway and get no updates from
> the server, obviously).
>
> Sticking an EOL label on a software release is not going to magica
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 02:15:49PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:
>> == User Experience ==
>> Any current users of Fedora on ARMv7 devices won't be able to upgrade
>> to Fedora 37, they will have to stay on Fedora 36 until it's EOL.
>
> Please add "and will have to
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 8:10 PM Peter Boy wrote:
>
>
>
> > Am 16.11.2021 um 20:37 schrieb Miro Hrončok :
> >
> > On 15. 11. 21 20:15, Ben Cotton wrote:
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireARMv7
> >> == Owner ==
> >> * Name: [[User:pbrobinson| Peter Robinson]]
> >> * Email:
> >
> > M
> Am 16.11.2021 um 21:23 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen :
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 15:10 Peter Boy wrote:
>
> ...
> This could (hopefully) solve a number of problems raised by various
> contributors to the discussion (and preserve the „trademark").
>
>
> The main problem is that armv
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 15:10 Peter Boy wrote:
>
>
> > Am 16.11.2021 um 20:37 schrieb Miro Hrončok :
> >
> > On 15. 11. 21 20:15, Ben Cotton wrote:
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireARMv7
> >> == Owner ==
> >> * Name: [[User:pbrobinson| Peter Robinson]]
> >> * Email:
> >
> > May
> Am 16.11.2021 um 20:37 schrieb Miro Hrončok :
>
> On 15. 11. 21 20:15, Ben Cotton wrote:
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireARMv7
>> == Owner ==
>> * Name: [[User:pbrobinson| Peter Robinson]]
>> * Email:
>
> May I suggest to include
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/li
On 15. 11. 21 20:15, Ben Cotton wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireARMv7
== Owner ==
* Name: [[User:pbrobinson| Peter Robinson]]
* Email:
May I suggest to include
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/a...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/YC2LYBJSFKDAVBUJAIFQCCBS5VLW5T
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 08:34:07AM +, Ahmed Almeleh wrote:
> I agree that the ARMv7 architecture is in decline and echo the opinion
> of Zbigniew
> that the user base will be very low once the EOL for F36 falls.
>
> Overall I think it is best to remove the ARMv7 architecture. It may also
> mak
I agree that the ARMv7 architecture is in decline and echo the opinion
of Zbigniew
that the user base will be very low once the EOL for F36 falls.
Overall I think it is best to remove the ARMv7 architecture. It may also
make it easier to push advanced features into new releases quicker.
Thanks,
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 02:15:49PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireARMv7
>
> == Owner ==
> * Name: [[User:pbrobinson| Peter Robinson]]
> * Email:
>
> == Detailed Description ==
>
> The ARMv7 arm architecture was the second variant of the arm
> architectur
Hi,
just a minor suggestion:
On November 15, 2021 7:15:49 PM UTC, Ben Cotton wrote:
>
>Overall arm32 is generally waning with generally few new ARMv7 devices
>added to Fedora in recent releases.
Remove one of the two generally/general.
>== Contingency Plan ==
>
>Continue on as before with the
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 7:16 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireARMv7
>
I cannot recall the last time I tried to run a full armv7 desktop
(which, I would guess, generate a significant percentage of
the large app build failures since the "desktop" apps are,
well,
https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1291136-fedora-drafts-plans-for-retiring-armv7-support
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