Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-20 Thread Petr Sabata
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 08:11:17PM +0300, Kalev Lember wrote: > On 07/19/2011 07:30 PM, Petr Sabata wrote: > > I put Obsoletes (not Provides) in there and in seemed to make no > > difference. > > cpupowerutils update or clean cpupowerutils installation don't remove > > cpuspeed > > from the syst

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.07.2011 19:43, schrieb Jesse Keating: > On 7/19/11 10:39 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> and why not simply "cpuspeed"? > > Unversioned obsoletes can lead to tricky situations should the package > ever come back into the distro hm not if both packages updated i think this is a conflict whic

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Jesse Keating
On 7/19/11 10:39 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > and why not simply "cpuspeed"? Unversioned obsoletes can lead to tricky situations should the package ever come back into the distro. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -- devel mailing list devel@l

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.07.2011 19:11, schrieb Kalev Lember: > On 07/19/2011 07:30 PM, Petr Sabata wrote: >> I put Obsoletes (not Provides) in there and in seemed to make no difference. >> cpupowerutils update or clean cpupowerutils installation don't remove >> cpuspeed >> from the system. > >> Obsoletes: c

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Bill Nottingham
Petr Sabata (con...@redhat.com) said: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:18:18PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Petr Sabata (con...@redhat.com) said: > > > > Will cpupowerutils obsolete cpufreq so old deployments of cpufreq can be > > > > garbage-collected ? (yes most people will not need it, but is

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Kalev Lember
On 07/19/2011 07:30 PM, Petr Sabata wrote: > I put Obsoletes (not Provides) in there and in seemed to make no difference. > cpupowerutils update or clean cpupowerutils installation don't remove cpuspeed > from the system. > Obsoletes: cpuspeed <= 1:1.5-15 It should instead be: Obsoletes:

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 15:41 +0200, Petr Sabata wrote: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 03:35:36PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > > Le Mar 19 juillet 2011 14:14, Petr Sabata a écrit : > > > > > In case you would to use a different governor and/or specific frequency, > > > try > > > the > > > new cp

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Jaroslav Skarvada
> > I would suggest getting a wattmeter and measuring it... probably the > simplest way to know for sure. > > I'm pretty sure I measured it directly with a kill-a-watt meter, but I > no longer have a P4, so can't retest. > > -Eric > -- Measured P4 on default F15 install. In active idle the overa

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Petr Sabata
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:18:18PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Petr Sabata (con...@redhat.com) said: > > > Will cpupowerutils obsolete cpufreq so old deployments of cpufreq can be > > > garbage-collected ? (yes most people will not need it, but is it not > > > better to > > > have something c

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Bill Nottingham
Petr Sabata (con...@redhat.com) said: > > Will cpupowerutils obsolete cpufreq so old deployments of cpufreq can be > > garbage-collected ? (yes most people will not need it, but is it not better > > to > > have something current installed rather than cpufreq living on forever? I'm > > thinking of

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Jaroslav Skarvada
- Original Message - > On 07/19/2011 10:23 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > > On 07/19/2011 11:07 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: > >> On 07/19/2011 09:59 AM, Jaroslav Skarvada wrote: > > > >>> Sad that the daemon gone. It was able to dynamically switch speed > >>> (and save power) on systems that

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 07/19/2011 10:23 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 07/19/2011 11:07 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: >> On 07/19/2011 09:59 AM, Jaroslav Skarvada wrote: > >>> Sad that the daemon gone. It was able to dynamically switch speed >>> (and save power) on systems that have CPUs with high transition >>> latency

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 07/19/2011 11:07 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: > On 07/19/2011 09:59 AM, Jaroslav Skarvada wrote: >> Sad that the daemon gone. It was able to dynamically switch speed >> (and save power) on systems that have CPUs with high transition >> latency (e.g. old P4, some Atoms, etc.). On such systems the > >

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Jaroslav Skarvada
- Original Message - > On 07/19/2011 09:59 AM, Jaroslav Skarvada wrote: > > - Original Message - > >> To avoid some confusion: > >> > >> I removed cpuspeed from Rawhide about 10 days ago. It no longer > >> serves > >> any > >> purpose in Fedora and has been effectively replaced by

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 07/19/2011 09:59 AM, Jaroslav Skarvada wrote: > - Original Message - >> To avoid some confusion: >> >> I removed cpuspeed from Rawhide about 10 days ago. It no longer serves >> any >> purpose in Fedora and has been effectively replaced by kernel cpufreq >> stack. >> >> All cpufreq module

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Petr Sabata
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:59:30AM -0400, Jaroslav Skarvada wrote: > - Original Message - > > To avoid some confusion: > > > > I removed cpuspeed from Rawhide about 10 days ago. It no longer serves > > any > > purpose in Fedora and has been effectively replaced by kernel cpufreq > > stack.

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Jaroslav Skarvada
- Original Message - > To avoid some confusion: > > I removed cpuspeed from Rawhide about 10 days ago. It no longer serves > any > purpose in Fedora and has been effectively replaced by kernel cpufreq > stack. > > All cpufreq modules should now be built-in, with ondemand being the > defau

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Petr Sabata
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 03:35:36PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le Mar 19 juillet 2011 14:14, Petr Sabata a écrit : > > > In case you would to use a different governor and/or specific frequency, try > > the > > new cpupower.service (provieded by cpupowerutils). Most people shouldn't > > ne

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 19 juillet 2011 14:14, Petr Sabata a écrit : > In case you would to use a different governor and/or specific frequency, try > the > new cpupower.service (provieded by cpupowerutils). Most people shouldn't need > this, though. Will cpupowerutils obsolete cpufreq so old deployments of cpuf

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Petr Sabata
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 06:34:36PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 07/19/2011 05:44 PM, Petr Sabata wrote: > > To avoid some confusion: > > > > I removed cpuspeed from Rawhide about 10 days ago. It no longer serves any > > purpose in Fedora and has been effectively replaced by kernel cpufreq sta

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/19/2011 05:44 PM, Petr Sabata wrote: > To avoid some confusion: > > I removed cpuspeed from Rawhide about 10 days ago. It no longer serves any > purpose in Fedora and has been effectively replaced by kernel cpufreq stack. > > All cpufreq modules should now be built-in, with ondemand being th

Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Petr Sabata
To avoid some confusion: I removed cpuspeed from Rawhide about 10 days ago. It no longer serves any purpose in Fedora and has been effectively replaced by kernel cpufreq stack. All cpufreq modules should now be built-in, with ondemand being the default governor in Fedora. In case you would to u