Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-19 Thread David Malcolm
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 16:53 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:45:05AM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 10:55 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > This reasoning (needed for testing) doesn't appeal to me at all. The > > > general case should be that we s

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-16 Thread Jesse Keating
On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 13:09 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 12:45:24PM +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: > > > > But what's the benefit of alternatives for this? Is the intent to provide > > sysadmins a way to change which python version of an app would be the > > system > > d

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 12:45:24PM +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: > > But what's the benefit of alternatives for this? Is the intent to provide > sysadmins a way to change which python version of an app would be the system > default? > > If not, why not just pick what we want to be the default for

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-16 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Saturday 16 January 2010, Till Maas wrote: > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 11:14:53AM +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: > > On Friday 15 January 2010, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > Alternatives is system wide, but it can be per application. > > > > Per application alternatives, as in alternatives(8)? How? > >

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-16 Thread Till Maas
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 11:14:53AM +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: > On Friday 15 January 2010, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > Alternatives is system wide, but it can be per application. > > Per application alternatives, as in alternatives(8)? How? If two versions of each application with different sheb

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-16 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Friday 15 January 2010, Jesse Keating wrote: > Alternatives is system wide, but it can be per application. Per application alternatives, as in alternatives(8)? How? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-15 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:45 PM, David Malcolm wrote: > > = Support files for the Python language = > /usr/bin/g-ir-scanner I don't see any intrinsic value in having both versions of g-ir-scanner available; this one should be in the other category, it's just a program which happens to be impleme

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:45:05AM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 10:55 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > This reasoning (needed for testing) doesn't appeal to me at all. The > > general case should be that we switch applications in rawhide from python2 > > to python3. Test t

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-15 Thread David Malcolm
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 10:55 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:31:41PM +0100, Thomas Spura wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, den 14.01.2010, 22:54 -0500 schrieb Toshio Kuratomi: > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:56:23PM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > > > > python3 is in rawhide and I'

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:31:41PM +0100, Thomas Spura wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 14.01.2010, 22:54 -0500 schrieb Toshio Kuratomi: > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:56:23PM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > > > python3 is in rawhide and I'm hoping to build out the Python 3 stack > > > (help would be most

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-15 Thread Thomas Spura
Am Donnerstag, den 14.01.2010, 22:54 -0500 schrieb Toshio Kuratomi: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:56:23PM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > > python3 is in rawhide and I'm hoping to build out the Python 3 stack > > (help would be most welcome!) > > > > I've run into a snag with the plan of building out

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-14 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:56:23PM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > python3 is in rawhide and I'm hoping to build out the Python 3 stack > (help would be most welcome!) > > I've run into a snag with the plan of building out parallel python 2 and > python 3 stacks [1]: What do we do about executables

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-14 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 18:49 -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > > Thanks. As I understand it, the alternatives system is a host-wide > configuration setting: only one set of things can be at use at a time on > a host; that seems too blunt for this, alas - I think people should be > able to use a mixtur

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-14 Thread David Malcolm
On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 22:29 +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > 2010/1/14 David Malcolm : > > Anyone got any better ideas? Thoughts about which of the above is > > preferrable? > > I am not sure it qualifies as "better" than your suggestions... but > the problem of different executables with the s

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-14 Thread Jonathan Underwood
2010/1/14 David Malcolm : > Anyone got any better ideas?  Thoughts about which of the above is > preferrable? I am not sure it qualifies as "better" than your suggestions... but the problem of different executables with the same name providing equivalent functionality via a different implementatio

Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-14 Thread David Malcolm
python3 is in rawhide and I'm hoping to build out the Python 3 stack (help would be most welcome!) I've run into a snag with the plan of building out parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks [1]: What do we do about executables that live in /usr/bin ? For example if we have a 'console_scripts' in a