Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-22 Thread Bill Nottingham
Marcela Mašláňová (mmasl...@redhat.com) said: > On 04/14/2014 10:17 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > >Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: > >>= Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL = > >>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL > >> > >>Change owner(s): Marcela Mašláňová >

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-22 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 04/20/2014 06:46 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Lukas Zapletal wrote: This is a great change that actually allows other teams that heavily relies on Fedoras to put their software "on hold" for two Fedora releases. And that's a good thing how? Stale software relying on old compatibility libraries i

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Lukas Zapletal wrote: > This is a great change that actually allows other teams that heavily > relies on Fedoras to put their software "on hold" for two Fedora > releases. And that's a good thing how? Stale software relying on old compatibility libraries is exactly the opposite of what we want (f

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bill Nottingham wrote: > Is the intent to only provide SCL versions of the older ruby & rails, or > also the current versions (i.e., move to SCL as the rails delivery > mechanism going forward)? (Assuming we really want to support SCLs at all,) the default version should most definitely NOT be an

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-17 Thread Lukas Zapletal
This is a great change that actually allows other teams that heavily relies on Fedoras to put their software "on hold" for two Fedora releases. Fedora is really a fast moving target and the same for Ruby. Catching up costs lot of effort. This gives us usually "one extra" release to put things on h

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-17 Thread Lukas Zapletal
> Stupid question: what in rails depends on v8 exactly? Not sure if this has been answered already, but it's the asset pipeline precompilation, a build requirement. -- Later, Lukas "lzap" Zapletal irc: lzap #theforeman -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedorap

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-16 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 16:16:42 +0200 Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL > > Change owner(s): Marcela Mašláňová > > Ruby 1.9.3 with Rails 3.2.8 is still co

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-15 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 15.4.2014 17:14, Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 15.4.2014 10:21, Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 15.4.2014 02:07, T.C. Hollingsworth napsal(a): On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Rails depends on exact v8 version, which means v8 3.14 must have also their own SCL as part of th

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-15 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 15.4.2014 10:21, Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 15.4.2014 02:07, T.C. Hollingsworth napsal(a): On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Rails depends on exact v8 version, which means v8 3.14 must have also their own SCL as part of the SCL. Stupid question: what in rails depend

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-15 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 04/15/2014 02:07 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Rails depends on exact v8 version, which means v8 3.14 must have also their own SCL as part of the SCL. Stupid question: what in rails depends on v8 exactly? The only thing that Requires

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-15 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 04/15/2014 12:05 AM, Ken Dreyer wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL Change owner(s): Marcela Mašláňová Ruby 1.9.3 wi

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-15 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 04/14/2014 10:17 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL Change owner(s): Marcela Mašláňová Ruby 1.9.3 with Rails 3.2.8 is still commonly used by many project

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-15 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 15.4.2014 02:07, T.C. Hollingsworth napsal(a): On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Rails depends on exact v8 version, which means v8 3.14 must have also their own SCL as part of the SCL. Stupid question: what in rails depends on v8 exactly? The only thing that Requires

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-14 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > Rails depends on exact v8 > version, which means v8 3.14 must have also their own SCL as part of the SCL. Stupid question: what in rails depends on v8 exactly? The only thing that Requires v8 in Fedora besides nodejs and mongodb is rubyge

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-14 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: >> = Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL >> >> Change owner(s): Marcela Mašláňová >> >> Ruby 1.9.3 with Rails 3.2.8 is still comm

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-14 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL > > Change owner(s): Marcela Mašláňová > > Ruby 1.9.3 with Rails 3.2.8 is still commonly used by many projects. Let's > provide Ruby and Rails i

F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-14 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL Change owner(s): Marcela Mašláňová Ruby 1.9.3 with Rails 3.2.8 is still commonly used by many projects. Let's provide Ruby and Rails in SCL even for Fedora. Rails depends on exact v8 version,